Let’s be positive

[mani sha]

I didn’t watch the match after I read the stats on dew . Knowing that toss gets u the cup helped my soul relax . Even before first ball was bowled , I was expecting India to loose . 
 

having said that , I am v v happy with team India outlook and performance . 
 

positive - 

 

we have finally learnt to play one day cricket again and also t20 .

our bowlers got us to finals and I firmly believe that using bumrah Shami for next years t20 wc will give us a great chance of wining . 
gill , Ayer and even rahul exhibited positive cricket except in finals - the pitch was difficult ( I saw in highlights the dismissal of rahul - last time I saw such reverse swing was in Sharjah by the great Wasim . ) 

 

having a core of good batsmen and keepers ( pant Kishan rahul Samson ) , openers - yash , gill and upcoming all rounders - this IPL will unearth at least one if not two pace bowling all rounders , I feel confident we will win again . 
 

it’s fair to say that we lost a decade under kohli and let’s use the last leg of Rohit’s career to win us at least one World Cup . 
 

keep Rohit t20 captain . We will win .dew not so much a factor in t20 

[coffee_rules]

This. 

[bowl_out]

44 minutes ago, mani sha said:

 

keep Rohit t20 captain . We will win .dew not so much a factor in t20 

 

I like this. No reason to think Rohit won't do well in T20. He should captain till next year's T20 WC and eventually hand it over to Gill when he is ready

[Number]

Good post but if we keep Rohit as T20 captain he will bring Ashwin, DK in the T20 team. 

Edited November 20 by Number

[cricketfan28]

we were killed by dew twice in the last 3 years, why play at such venues, dew will be a factor when teams are almost equal.

[Prabhdeep Singh]

The years from 2014-2023 (No ICC Trophy):

 

Positives:

 

*5 ICC Finals (Silver)

*4 ICC Semi Finals (Bronze)

*2 Test Series Wins in Australia

*3 Asia Cup Wins

*Asian Games Gold 

[wanted_desi]

I blame the dew factor as well. You just know conditions would change and quality of sides difference couldn't make the difference in the conditions. 

 

I still feel we are the best side in ODI and Test Cricket at this time. However, people will always remember trophies, but we are a very good side. 

[vvvslaxman]

130000 people , 130000 people lo We all know who wilted infront of such a huge crowd. A Ranji Trophy team would have shown more spine than India.

[bowl_out]

53 minutes ago, Number said:

Good post but if we keep Rohit as T20 captain he will bring Ashwin, DK in the T20 team. 

 

You are confusing Rohit with Kohli.  Kohli brought in DK into ODI WC in 2019 for God-knows-what reason.

Rohit did not even play Ashwin when he was in the squad in the WTC Final and ODI Final.

 

My bigger problem was when Rohit brought SKY into ODIs for this MI connection

 

 

[Downtown]

Negatives:

1. Hardik Pandya is unfit to represent India in any format.
 

2. We finally learnt to play ODIs? NO, we still struggle in ODIs. After losing a couple of wickets, we tend to play defensively. Remember the No. of boundaries we hit yesterday? Winning a World Cup seems beyond us since Dhoni's captaincy era.
 

3. Rohit Sharma, both as a player and captain, lacks responsibility. He threw away his wicket in the crucial final, continuing a trend seen in many tournaments.
 

4. Gill performs well against IPL and mid-table teams but doesn't seem to belong to the elite level. He's in the same league as players like Babar Azam and Kusal Mendis.
 

5. Kohli tends to focus on personal milestones and underperforms in big finals. Don't be surprised if he scores his 60th century in the next World Cup group game.
 

6. KL Rahul appears to struggle mentally, regardless of his batting position. He's comparable to players like Babar Azam in terms of performance.
 

7. Iyer looks gutsy when things click, but he struggles against pacers, making him vulnerable. Relying on him solely based on his spin-bowling performances might not be sustainable.
 

8. Jadeja may not be past his prime; some argue he never had a prime. The management's continued reliance on him, thanks to Dhoni, proved disappointing in the final.
 

9. Sky appears to be a weaker batsman compared to Ambati Rayudu and Kedar Jadhav. Rayudu and Jadhav, at least, made impactful runs in the middle order during limited opportunities.
 

10. Shami surprised everyone in the group stage but went missing in yet another final.
 

11. Bumrah struggled in big tournaments and is deemed not cut out for big occasions.
 

12. Siraj, despite becoming #1 by picking wickets against weaker teams, is seen as a club-level bowler lacking strategic thinking. He's our Haris Rauf.

Positives:
Nothing. Win the bloody tournament, first!

[Serpico]

51 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said:

we were killed by dew twice in the last 3 years, why play at such venues, dew will be a factor when teams are almost equal.

I don't see the point of day night ODIs on Sundays. It could have been a day game and still get same viewership 

[Serpico]

2 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

 

You are confusing Rohit with Kohli.  Kohli brought in DK into ODI WC in 2019 for God-knows-what reason.

Rohit did not even play Ashwin when he was in the squad in the WTC Final and ODI Final.

 

My bigger problem was when Rohit brought SKY into ODIs for this MI connection

 

 

Rohit also brought dk in 2022 WT20. Remember how he choked when we needed 2 runs in 2 balls against Pakistan? Captain brain genius benches pant and plays a commentator in world cup 

[nitinbwj]

13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

130000 people , 130000 people lo We all know who wilted infront of such a huge crowd. A Ranji Trophy team would have shown more spine than India.

Ranji Trophy team wouldnt play with 5 batsmen. There was NO ONE after KL and Kohli and they both knew it. What's more baffling was KL wasn't able to rotate strike at all. Kohli was still running those singles every ball. Lodu KL just shat on the field. Run a ball for 20 overs and then accelerate a little knowing that there is some cushion ( a non existent one though) plus this pitch totally nullified SKY's game. He doesn't know how to take singles. Worst pitch for him. It's a miracle that we won all the games on trot with top 5 performing every time. The moment we lost 3 wickets for nothing.. It was all over. 

[nitinbwj]

Why can't we have day games. BCCI and it's greed.. Mfers. 

[mani sha]

1 hour ago, Number said:

Good post but if we keep Rohit as T20 captain he will bring Ashwin, DK in the T20 team. 

He is strategically sound . Unlike kohli who brings Rayudu etc . 

[Number]

9 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

 

You are confusing Rohit with Kohli.  Kohli brought in DK into ODI WC in 2019 for God-knows-what reason.

Rohit did not even play Ashwin when he was in the squad in the WTC Final and ODI Final.

 

My bigger problem was when Rohit brought SKY into ODIs for this MI connection

 

 

Rohit played Ashwin and DK in T20 WC in Aus last year. Dk never did well in Aus ever and Ashwin was as good as retired from white ball.

[mani sha]

23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

130000 people , 130000 people lo We all know who wilted infront of such a huge crowd. A Ranji Trophy team would have shown more spine than India.

I think we made 240 on a slow pitch against peak Aussie fast bowlers. Most teams would have collapsed at 150 

[coffee_rules]

4 minutes ago, mani sha said:

He is strategically sound . Unlike kohli who brings Rayudu etc . 

And drops Shami for Bhuvi in a WC SF!

[mani sha]

13 minutes ago, Downtown said:

Negatives:

1. Hardik Pandya is unfit to represent India in any format.
 

2. We finally learnt to play ODIs? NO, we still struggle in ODIs. After losing a couple of wickets, we tend to play defensively. Remember the No. of boundaries we hit yesterday? Winning a World Cup seems beyond us since Dhoni's captaincy era.
 

3. Rohit Sharma, both as a player and captain, lacks responsibility. He threw away his wicket in the crucial final, continuing a trend seen in many tournaments.
 

4. Gill performs well against IPL and mid-table teams but doesn't seem to belong to the elite level. He's in the same league as players like Babar Azam and Kusal Mendis.
 

5. Kohli tends to focus on personal milestones and underperforms in big finals. Don't be surprised if he scores his 60th century in the next World Cup group game.
 

6. KL Rahul appears to struggle mentally, regardless of his batting position. He's comparable to players like Babar Azam in terms of performance.
 

7. Iyer looks gutsy when things click, but he struggles against pacers, making him vulnerable. Relying on him solely based on his spin-bowling performances might not be sustainable.
 

8. Jadeja may not be past his prime; some argue he never had a prime. The management's continued reliance on him, thanks to Dhoni, proved disappointing in the final.
 

9. Sky appears to be a weaker batsman compared to Ambati Rayudu and Kedar Jadhav. Rayudu and Jadhav, at least, made impactful runs in the middle order during limited opportunities.
 

10. Shami surprised everyone in the group stage but went missing in yet another final.
 

11. Bumrah struggled in big tournaments and is deemed not cut out for big occasions.
 

12. Siraj, despite becoming #1 by picking wickets against weaker teams, is seen as a club-level bowler lacking strategic thinking. He's our Haris Rauf.

Positives:
Nothing. Win the bloody tournament, first!

1 - he is all we have rt now . Thakur needed to be groomed as no 5 . We just don’t develop all rounders like England . Our top batters want to bat in bilaterals and stat pad 

 

2 - pitch was hard . I looked at every game including our arch nemesis nz - we were hitting sixes for pleasure . 
 

3 - Rohit played the best in this wc . His strike rate is what matters . 
 

4- gill came back from dengue. Did well . Dude get a life . 
 

5 - I am not a kohli fan . He is the reason why India has not won last 10 years . Stat padding is his forte. 
 

6- rahul was fantastic as keeper and batted v well whole tournament. This version I like . The midget is gone 

 

7,8, 9 

 

Ayer - like Ganguly he is a born leader. Who didn’t have weakness . He stands tall 

jadeja - he gave his all . Sir is sir . Team man , bowls well bats decent . Don’t expect more 

sky - at no 7 batted well in limited opportunities . Game changer on flat pitches. 
 

10,11,12 

 

collectively , they bowled superb . You can complain but I saw fear in oppositions eyes . Best odi attack I have seen . Along with Zaheer , Srinath and nehra in 2003 wc.  

[R!TTER]

20 minutes ago, Serpico said:

It could have been a day game and still get same viewership 

It could have been a day/evening game as well or is nepo baby too superstitious wrt starting games at 12 noon?