BlueBlood Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 We have enough data now with Rohit. Kohli was removed because he failed as a captain. Rohit also didn't win a single cup as a captain even in helpful home conditions. Can we all accept for once that MSD had some magic to win both T20 and 50 over world cups? We almost own another T20 WC if it weren't for Yuvraj messing up final against SL and I think another one where Mendis the mystery spinner tormenting us. With this defeat the legacy of Kapil Dev and Dhoni will be even more established. This board loves to hate Dhoni but at least he brought results and created a smooth transition with Kohli as captain even when he had a couple of more years left. I doubt Rohit will do the same to Pandya or whoever takes over next. Haarkarjeetgaye and rollingstoned 2 Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Dhoni somehow inspires people we have seen it time and again. Whenever failed players go to Chennai they resurrect. BlueBlood 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Players raise their game. MSD sucked only in Tests. In LOIs his field sets are generally good especially if it is a must-win game. Rohit looked lost. Rohit was also irritable in the semi final. MSD would never give up in a final like Rohit did. That looked worse than Kohli's captaincy. Credit to his batting. But his captaincy was a massive let down. Downtown and Frustrated 2 Link to comment
Insidious Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Dhoni as a captain was street smart, could win you match out of no where. He won us crucial matches in LOI with bowlers like Ishant and even Joginder sharma. Rohit is no where close. cricketfan28, Frustrated, Haarkarjeetgaye and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Players raise their game. MSD sucked only in Tests. In LOIs his field sets are generally good especially if it is a must-win game. Rohit looked lost. Rohit was also irritable in the semi final. MSD would never give up in a final like Rohit did. That looked worse than Kohli's captaincy. Credit to his batting. But his captaincy was a massive let down. Dhoni was our best captain but let's be honest, his captaincy in 2014 WT20 final sucked, horrendous. Selection, batting order, field placement etc....Ashwin had Sanga out at least 3 times at the start but raddi field placement, like how Rohit didn't keep a slip for spinners this final. Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 The depths Dhoni sunk Indian test team to, and how he carried on even when he had lost interest in the format, how he got Amarnath removed and promoted CSK players, Rhiti, Mudgal, Bhogle's sacking...no saints in Indian cricket. rollingstoned and Number 1 1 Link to comment
Bigg Brother Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Dhoni as captain also lost ICC tournaments, some defeats were even worse than this- first round exit,too. No need to glorify him,too.. Number 1 Link to comment
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: Dhoni as captain also lost ICC tournaments, some defeats were even worse than this- first round exit,too. No need to glorify him,too.. Certainly better than Rohit both Dhoni and Kapil Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Rohit over MSD as captain. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Rohit is much better captain than the showoff Dhoni. sage 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Bigg Brother said: Dhoni as captain also lost ICC tournaments, some defeats were even worse than this- first round exit,too. No need to glorify him,too.. We genuinely had crap teams. Combination of his rigidity and crappines accelerated it. This was a great inform side that Rohit managed to squander against a not so inform side. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Gollum said: The depths Dhoni sunk Indian test team to, and how he carried on even when he had lost interest in the format, how he got Amarnath removed and promoted CSK players, Rhiti, Mudgal, Bhogle's sacking...no saints in Indian cricket. While watching a crucial game never felt so helpless even when the opposition was 48/3 or something. This is definitely a blackmark in Rohit's captaincy history. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said: Rohit over MSD as captain. As long as things were going for us he was alright. But Rohit kinda checked out both in semi and final. In the semis players were losing their mind for 30 or 40 minutes. He didn't know what to do. Shami had to step up massively. Link to comment
Number Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) Those 3 ICC trophies hide all failures of MSD which were way more than Rohit or Virat's as captains. Edited November 22, 2023 by Number Lord 1 Link to comment
Chaos Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Dhoni won t20 wc with bunch of young ones. Joginder sharma… remember the name and the man who scares everyone with seriousssss pace. Link to comment
The Hound Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Not even close. MSD is easily the best Indian captain ever in white ball cricket. People are now realizing his value after a ten year ICC trophy draught. Link to comment
srgadjon Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Gollum said: Dhoni was our best captain but let's be honest, his captaincy in 2014 WT20 final sucked, horrendous. Selection, batting order, field placement etc....Ashwin had Sanga out at least 3 times at the start but raddi field placement, like how Rohit didn't keep a slip for spinners this final. Yuvraj played one of the worst T20 innings of all time in that game which led to a poor score. That largely contributed to that loss. Link to comment
Insidious Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Rohit over MSD as captain. How? It is not that Rohit has own anything significant in Test cricket/LOIs Link to comment
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Rohit has 0 achievements as captain. A big fat 0 Dhoni has 3 ICC tournaments under his belt Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Insidious said: How? It is not that Rohit has own anything significant in Test cricket/LOIs Dhoni captained the ODI team at a time when the Aussies were at their weakest. They were still in transition from their great side in 2007. Downtown 1 Link to comment
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