Worst India Top 5 in terms of batting test average in recent memory

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Vith Kohli out, this is possible the worst top 5 for India in recent memory in terms of test batting average.

 

Rohit @ 45

Jaiswal @ 45

Gill @ 30

S Iyer @ 39

KL @ 33

 

It is quite a shame that Indian Test batting legacy has come to this.

 

Jaiswal, Gill, S Iyer and KL really need to up their game. Rohit will have to do the heavy lifting again with help from the spin all rounders.

 

Edited January 23 by Prabhdeep Singh

[Serpico]

If you consider players recent form, wtc2 final top 5 was worse

[Gollum]

Rohit's numbers are fine, and anyway he is a beast at home. Iyer too is good for home conditions.

 

Jaiswal is a newbie.

 

KL and Gill have been massive disappointments their whole career. I back Axar to outscore these 2 again. 

[putrevus]

Biggest mystery , how is KL Rahul who is playing over a decade and is still getting by with 33 avg. 

 

This is make or break series for Gill.

Edited January 23 by putrevus

[Gollum]

Dravid's favorite Bharat will be keeper since KL has to be protected. Then this weak top 5. No wonder we can never play an out and out attacking option like Kuldeep, we depend on lower order runs and Axar will be key there like he was in recent BGT. 

[Gollum]

In 2016 Ind-Eng series, lower order almost matched top 6....but Kohli was freakishly good there. 

 

In 2021 Ind-Eng, lower order outscored top 6.

 

2023 BGT, lower order outscored top 7 (excluding Jadeja).

 

2024 verdict? 

 

 

Edited January 23 by Gollum

[putrevus]

What has Kishen done to Dravid, he first drops him after he scores 200 in odi and now he is out of the test squad. Why is Bharat in the squad, he looked like tailender in his last test match.

[Gollum]

5 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Biggest mystery , how is KL Rahul who is playing over a decade and is still getting by with 33 avg. 

 

This is make or break series for Gill.

KL initially was good, at least stood out in 2017 BGT on challenging pitches vs peak Lyon.

 

What has Gill done in his career? 20 tests and average <30. Couldn't bat well in Bangladesh, WI, but still for media he is next Kohli. 

[Majestic]

Rahul is better than his stats. Ideally, a 37-38 averaging bat which is still far from being good.

 

Rohit is as good as his stats.

 

Gill has been awful since his Gabba knock.

 

Iyer has been awful outside Asia.

 

Jaiswal has just started so don't read into his average.

 

 

[Number]

Hearing that Shreyas got hit on wrist today while taking throwdowns and couldn't bat after that.

If England bat first and get to 325-350, game on.

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Just to add, Rohit is fine, the rest need to step up.

[putrevus]

18 minutes ago, Gollum said:

KL initially was good, at least stood out in 2017 BGT on challenging pitches vs peak Lyon.

 

What has Gill done in his career? 20 tests and average <30. Couldn't bat well in Bangladesh, WI, but still for media he is next Kohli. 

Yes, Gill has done nothing great.But he just like Rohit or even Rahul has the advantage of playing other formats.Gill has done well in odis so he is getting extended run.

 

If he flops first two tests of this series, he is not getting a free ride anymore.

 

Rahul on other hand has stunk after that Australian series in 2017.Look at his avg it is going down every series. He has stunk in every big stage in all formats.

 

Why is KL getting royal treatment.Now he is playing as a regular batsman in this series when he just played last series as WK. So they are trying to make sure this guy fits into the playing XI in all formats for what reason.

 

[Gollum]

30 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Why is KL getting royal treatment.Now he is playing as a regular batsman in this series when he just played last series as WK. So they are trying to make sure this guy fits into the playing XI in all formats for what reason.

Dravid has his favorites. 

[putrevus]

Bozos like Ganguly could not wait to get this idiot Dravid as a coach.This guy dravid is as useless as they come as coach.

[Majestic]

15 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Dravid has his favorites. 

KL since his return in 2021 hit hundreds in England and South Africa and hence merits a place in this Indian side whereas Pujara, Rahane, Gill and Iyer have flopped big time during the same period especially overseas while Rohit was often in and out due to his injury.

 

Overseas runs count for more and in this decade, hundreds scored and averages by Indian batsman in SENA are :-

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;orderby=runs;spanmax1=23+Jan+2024;spanmin1=01+Jan+2021;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

Rahul has best average outside of Pant despite opening except last series. He merits a place in this Indian side.

[Gollum]

5 minutes ago, Majestic said:

KL since his return in 2021 hit hundreds in England and South Africa and hence merits a place in this Indian side whereas Pujara, Rahane, Gill and Iyer have flopped big time during the same period especially overseas while Rohit was often in and out due to his injury.

 

Overseas runs count for more and in this decade, hundreds scored and averages by Indian batsman in SENA are :-

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;orderby=runs;spanmax1=23+Jan+2024;spanmin1=01+Jan+2021;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

Rahul has best average outside of Pant despite opening except last series. He merits a place in this Indian side.

He has done above average, but his return to our setup, in all formats, was largely because of Dravid. Not all players find themselves that fortunate. And he can operate in a safe, low stress space because of coach, his competitor may not get that luxury.

[Majestic]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

He has done above average, but his return to our setup, in all formats, was largely because of Dravid. Not all players find themselves that fortunate. And he can operate in a safe, low stress space because of coach, his competitor may not get that luxury.

There were some injuries which allowed his return. Mayank had an injury which allowed his return in 2021 while Rohit too was injured time and again. That SA series in 2021 was deal breaker where Rahul hit a hundred in first test, having already hit a match winning hundred in Lords Test and 80 odd in first test .

 

It is also a case of other players failing to deliver good performance too and that's also because of tough batting conditions.

 

In overseas conditions, in the last three years, Rahul has been second best Indian batsman after Pant and that could be due to Rohit getting injured in some tough overseas tours but that's what it is.

Edited January 23 by Majestic

[jf1gp_1]

2 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

Vith Kohli out, this is possible the worst top 5 for India in recent memory in terms of test batting average.

 

Rohit @ 45

Jaiswal @ 45

Gill @ 30

S Iyer @ 39

KL @ 33

 

It is quite a shame that Indian Test batting legacy has come to this.

 

Jaiswal, Gill, S Iyer and KL really need to up their game. Rohit will have to do the heavy lifting again with help from the spin all rounders.

 

Designer pitch with low scores, also contributed towards such low averages

[MediumPacer]

Who cares,why are you ppl suddenly looking at avg.If they avg 50 plus would it be any better.

[cowboysfan]

you guys are worried about KL but i am worried about Rohit,it seems like he has one play style now regardless of the format and it will not work on Indian turning pitches.