putrevus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 hours ago, Gollum said: Kohli was removed from white ball captaincy. Kohli chose to resign from test captaincy, not BCCI/Ganguly decision. It was his ego that he would either be captain of all formats or none, poor attitude to have. Why was he removed from whiteball captaincy in the first place. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 (edited) 14 minutes ago, putrevus said: Why was he removed from whiteball captaincy in the first place. Cos he didnt deserve whiteball captaincy. Cos he tried to dictate who should be the next captain. Cos the team wasnt happy with him. Yes even the test team. When he resigned from the test team, guess who was the only guy who texted him? Dhoni. Kohli turned himself into a victim while narrating that story. But that speaks volumes of how everyone felt about him. He moved Indian cricket forward in tests. Then got too big for his boots. Got out thugged by a bigger thug named Jay Shah. Edited February 3 by sensible-indian Number, Vijy and G_B_ 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Cos he didnt deserve whiteball captaincy. Cos he tried to dictate who should be the next captain. Cos the team wasnt happy with him. Yes even the test team. When he resigned from the test team, guess who was the only guy who texted him? Dhoni. Kohli turned himself into a victim while narrating that story. But that speaks volumes of how everyone felt about him. He moved Indian cricket forward in tests. Then got too big for his boots. Got out thugged by a bigger thug named Jay Shah. Why didn't he deserve the captaincy? Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 (edited) 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Why didn't he deserve the captaincy? Why he didnt deserve LOI captaincy after sucking for so long in that format? Our discussion ends here lol. Edited February 3 by sensible-indian Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, putrevus said: Why didn't he deserve the captaincy? Failed in ICC events from 2017 till 2021, captaincy isn't someone's birth right. Anyway his form was also gone at that time and he needed to focus on batting. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, sensible-indian said: Why didnt he deserve LOI captaincy after sucking for so long in that format? Our discussion ends here lol. No it is not end of the discussion, he has the one of highest winning percentage and he excelled as batsman . Only an idiot will say he sucked in whiteball captaincy how is winning percentage over 70 in odis bad. He was held repsonsbile for the team not winning trophy. What the hell did India win after his left whiteball captaincy. Moronic idiot Ganguly thought winning ICC trohpy is somehow birth given right. What did India win after he gave up captaincy. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gollum said: Failed in ICC events from 2017 till 2021, captaincy isn't someone's birth right. Anyway his form was also gone at that time and he needed to focus on batting. What did India win from 2021 -till now again? They played same number of ICC tournaments. He was so great as a batsmen when he was captaining. His form went bad much later but he was removed without any reason. That too for a fatso like Rohit. Edited February 3 by putrevus Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, putrevus said: What did India win from 2021 -till now again? They played same number of ICC tournaments. He was so great as a batsmen when he was captaining. His form went bad much later but he was removed without any reason. That too for a fatso like Rohit. Rohit too is going to be sacked. Kohli was dreadful with the bat when he was sacked in 2021 end, don't invent alternate history. He needed some weight taken off at that point, but BCCI never wanted to sack him from tests, that was Kohli's own doing. Vijy 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Gollum said: Rohit too is going to be sacked. Kohli was dreadful with the bat when he was sacked in 2021 end, don't invent alternate history. He needed some weight taken off at that point, but BCCI never wanted to sack him from tests, that was Kohli's own doing. Not if he wanted to continue to captain, he should have been left alone in all formats period. He started some thing great which was not seen in Indian cricket, he should have been left alone to finish it. I could understand if there was a better alternative. Gavaskar had lean patch three years from 1977 to 1980, every batsman go thru a drought. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, putrevus said: No it is not end of the discussion, he has the one of highest winning percentage and he excelled as batsman . Only an idiot will say he sucked in whiteball captaincy how is winning percentage over 70 in odis bad. He was held repsonsbile for the team not winning trophy. What the hell did India win after his left whiteball captaincy. Moronic idiot Ganguly thought winning ICC trohpy is somehow birth given right. What did India win after he gave up captaincy. He absolutely sucked as a whiteball captain. Lord 1 Link to comment
kosingh Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Gill doesn't even deserve to be in the team, but it will be Gill. Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Gollum said: Rohit too is going to be sacked. Kohli was dreadful with the bat when he was sacked in 2021 end, don't invent alternate history. He needed some weight taken off at that point, but BCCI never wanted to sack him from tests, that was Kohli's own doing. he didn't even score a single 100 for a long time. poor patches by other ind batters were nowhere as bad. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 This is what happens when you overrate the team and underrate the captain who led the team from the front. we get Rohit Sharma. sensible-indian 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) I see no one but Bumrah, Let's be realistic...Ashwin is too old; Kohli left with bitterness; KL is well.... Bumrah if he can manage his fitness & workload can easily shape up captaincy for next 3 years before Jaiswal, Gill or anyone else settle themselves. Edited February 5 by singhvivek141 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, putrevus said: This is what happens when you overrate the team and underrate the captain who led the team from the front. we get Rohit Sharma. Correct End result: BGT 2021 series win. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) Kela Rahul... Bumrah needs to be wrapped in Cotton wool. Vice Kaptaan Jaiswal... Coz he has some aggression & fire in him. Edited February 5 by Lone Wolf Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Rahul is natural choice batting at 5 in tests. But need a good vc given his injury issues Pant ideally should have been that vc. Given the frightening lack of young good test pacers i think it makes no sense to overburden bummers Link to comment
RajBan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) On 2/3/2024 at 10:24 PM, putrevus said: Not if he wanted to continue to captain, he should have been left alone in all formats period. He started some thing great which was not seen in Indian cricket, he should have been left alone to finish it. I could understand if there was a better alternative. Gavaskar had lean patch three years from 1977 to 1980, every batsman go thru a drought. This is a wrong information that Kohli started the fast bowling renaissance. It was Ganguly who exposed Zaheer, Nehra, Pathan and advocated for sporting pitches instead of rank turners. Dhoni unfortunately took a back step to play Srini camp players and we regressed as a Test side both home away under him. Kohli again restored the focus on bowling in his trademark vigorous style and started backing fast bowlers and was instrumental to create the combination of Bumrah and Shami. Having said that he got over his head and started feeling that ODI and T20 captaincy was a god given right even when his selections were all over the place on.crunch matches. It was a right decision back then to relieve him of LOI captaincy as we hit ceiling and ran out of ideas. It was also right to appoint Rohit then as he was performing as a captain as well as a batsman. It's a different story that he is now over the hill for last 1 year and needs to be retired as well. Edited February 5 by RajBan Link to comment
RajBan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Please not an average Test player like KL whose position itself is under question and had to be played as a WK to justify his selection. Retaining KL Rahul with an average of 35 after almost 7-8 yrs in Test cricket only sets the bar too low for next set of folks like Gill who already trending 30 average after so many chances. Link to comment
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