Real McCoy Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Steve Waugh chasing 270 in a must win match in the 99 world cup (50 overs ) looks so long ago. That was the height of cricket. Now hitting sixes is like a video game. express bowling and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 This is why CSK has come out with a plan. Open with Rahane. Finish with Jadeja. If every team follows this template you won't see big scores. Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manucrick Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 30 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: This is why CSK has come out with a plan. Open with Rahane. Finish with Jadeja. If every team follows this template you won't see big scores. But dube spoiling that plan vvvslaxman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Enakku indha upcoming/next T20 WC ninaicha romba kastama irukku. Don't think we stand a chance against any team barring the minnows. We've not made the knockout stages of any T20 WC that followed after the IPL. 2009, 2010 and 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 minutes ago, Stan AF said: Enakku indha upcoming/next T20 WC ninaicha romba kastama irukku. Don't think we stand a chance against any team barring the minnows. We've not made the knockout stages of any T20 WC that followed after the IPL. 2009, 2010 and 2021. I am a little concerned about NY match. Nobody knows the pitch conditions. If it suddenly starts swinging they have two left arm seamers. Total of 8 overs. We could fold like a cheap suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I am a little concerned about NY match. Nobody knows the pitch conditions. If it suddenly starts swinging they have two left arm seamers. Total of 8 overs. We could fold like a cheap suit. I heard it's all drop in pitches coming from Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/28/2024 at 12:20 PM, Real McCoy said: Steve Waugh chasing 270 in a must win match in the 99 world cup (50 overs ) looks so long ago. That was the height of cricket. Now hitting sixes is like a video game. Still one of the greatest white ball knocks of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 3 hours ago, Stan AF said: I heard it's all drop in pitches coming from Australia. Only the pitches in America will be drop in pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said: Only the pitches in America will be drop in pitches. How big are the grounds in America ? If it's another 40-50m then it's going to be a batter heavy game. Where anyone can beat anyone. If it's 70-80m then advantage is to the teams who has power hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 9 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: How big are the grounds in America ? If it's another 40-50m then it's going to be a batter heavy game. Where anyone can beat anyone. If it's 70-80m then advantage is to the teams who has power hitters. Lauderhill is about 65-70 m . Scores have varied based on the pitches/strips mostly . But this time , they are getting that Adelaide Oval drop in both here and at NYC. And the Adelaide Oval surface is a bat first pitch during the day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said: Still one of the greatest white ball knocks of all time. I still consider it the best ODI knock I have seen. SA was the most feared side in that WC and Waugh took it to them coming from 3 down for nothing with a required rate of 7 (most of these younguns will never understand why that was hard back then). To me it seems like yesterday. But it is 25 years now Nikhil_cric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: I still consider it the best ODI knock I have seen. SA was the most feared side in that WC and Waugh took it to them coming from 3 down for nothing with a required rate of 7 (most of these younguns will never understand why that was hard back then). To me it seems like yesterday. But it is 25 years now Yeah. It was one brutal knock. They were gone for all money after Ponting's wicket. But Tugga showed that attack could be taken apart. In hindsight , it wasn't the greatest attack , apart from Donald and Pollock. But the sheer ferocity of that knock still stands out. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/28/2024 at 12:20 PM, Real McCoy said: Steve Waugh chasing 270 in a must win match in the 99 world cup (50 overs ) looks so long ago. That was the height of cricket. Now hitting sixes is like a video game. 99 is still far. our 2011 WC target was 271 in 50 overs. cricket is changing quicker than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 35 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Yeah. It was one brutal knock. They were gone for all money after Ponting's wicket. But Tugga showed that attack could be taken apart. In hindsight , it wasn't the greatest attack , apart from Donald and Pollock. But the sheer ferocity of that knock still stands out. Ponting fell after the counterattack from Waugh. They had a 100 run partnership. The beautiful part of that partnership was the first 10 overs of the partnership produced 20 runs. Maybe Donald, Pollock and Elworthy were on. Elworthy was another good bowler in that world cup had pace had swing with the new ball. The duo waited for Cronje, Klusener and Boje to start bowling and Waugh went ballistic on them. About SA's attack, yeah they relied on the front 3 to pick the wickets and the other 3 were quite handy in containing the runs after the damage was done upfront. Their bowling was on par with Pak in that WC although Pak had more variety, pacemen, seamers, and saqlain. SA's bowling was considered the best in that tournament and they proved it when they visited India next year. I remember so much from that Headingley match alone and 99 world cup than the recent one. I did not watch a match including the finals from the recent world cup. Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 47 minutes ago, rkt.india said: 99 is still far. our 2011 WC target was 271 in 50 overs. cricket is changing quicker than ever. Yeah even in 2011, 275 was a fighting target. It was a 50-50 chance because it was the final and scoreboard pressure. Picture this in your mind. It was 99 in England, early June, chilly with cloud cover, relentless bowling on a not so easy wicket, as the ball was seaming in and out. Your target is 270+. That is certainly more difficult than 2011 final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediumPacer Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Yeah even in 2011, 275 was a fighting target. It was a 50-50 chance because it was the final and scoreboard pressure. Picture this in your mind. It was 99 in England, early June, chilly with cloud cover, relentless bowling on a not so easy wicket, as the ball was seaming in and out. Your target is 270+. That is certainly more difficult than 2011 final Couldn't get 230 in 2019 sf,but eng were piling on 400 leading up to that wc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Current match shows how the match goes when you get certain specific batsmen out. Once they lost Mcgurk DC is not going anywhere. Same way when you get Head/Abhishek early they are not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 29 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Ponting fell after the counterattack from Waugh. They had a 100 run partnership. The beautiful part of that partnership was the first 10 overs of the partnership produced 20 runs. Maybe Donald, Pollock and Elworthy were on. Elworthy was another good bowler in that world cup had pace had swing with the new ball. The duo waited for Cronje, Klusener and Boje to start bowling and Waugh went ballistic on them. About SA's attack, yeah they relied on the front 3 to pick the wickets and the other 3 were quite handy in containing the runs after the damage was done upfront. Their bowling was on par with Pak in that WC although Pak had more variety, pacemen, seamers, and saqlain. SA's bowling was considered the best in that tournament and they proved it when they visited India next year. I remember so much from that Headingley match alone and 99 world cup than the recent one. I did not watch a match including the finals from the recent world cup. Thank god. I think PAK and OZ were at least on par. Fleming was a damn good ODI bowler and then there was McWarne. Yeah it was a masterclass in taking apart weaker bowlers . But I think Waugh did hit Pollock and Donald at the end too . But yeah the real difference was that the Aussies had a stronger and deeper batting lineup than both SA and PAK - The Waughs, Gilly, Bevan, Ponting, Lehmann - high quality specialist batsmen while SA and PAK relied a lot on allrounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediumPacer Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 There was a lot of fixing going on during that time,cronje got banned a year later, likes of Azhar,Akram who were the captains in 99wc were involved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: 99 is still far. our 2011 WC target was 271 in 50 overs. cricket is changing quicker than ever. That's what I have been saying here,and we are certainly left behind compared to gora sides It has become so fast,no time to statpad You have only two options Statpad and loose or play what's in interest of your side and win Statpadders won't have anything to hide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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