Lord Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 Biggest home bully ever. Jaiswal thrashed him like a part timer and that probably accelerated his retirement Kron and nevada 2
Lord Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: Prophetic Gill Edited lol
tapandrun Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 188 Tests, 704 wkts, played intnl test cricket till 40 yo -remarkable, still looked at top. Most underrated test bowler, used the condition to its maximum.
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 2 hours ago, goose said: legend Every cloud has a silver legend!
Kron Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 Vayu putra I never used to rate him but the last 10 years he has been outstanding. Averaged 30 in India but still a quality bowler Dint do that well in Australia either. 2 of the strongest sides. Just a touch under true atg. I would put him in the Walsh, Pollock, asbwin category
Muloghonto Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 49 minutes ago, Kron said: Vayu putra I never used to rate him but the last 10 years he has been outstanding. Averaged 30 in India but still a quality bowler Dint do that well in Australia either. 2 of the strongest sides. Just a touch under true atg. I would put him in the Walsh, Pollock, asbwin category Walsh and Pollock were faaaaaaaaaaaaar better than Andy and Ashwin is more of Lillee than Andy - actually stellar performances on friendly pitches, unlike Andy Kron 1
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 48 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Walsh and Pollock were faaaaaaaaaaaaar better than Andy and Ashwin is more of Lillee than Andy - actually stellar performances on friendly pitches, unlike Andy Pollock failed in aus a lot though. The one great team he had to face. Wasn't that great in west tindies either from memory. I cant rate him above Andy. He lived off donald mostly too. I would say on par with Andy. Walsh maybe but he also had Ambrose to support him.
Muloghonto Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 34 minutes ago, Kron said: Pollock failed in aus a lot though. The one great team he had to face. Wasn't that great in west tindies either from memory. I cant rate him above Andy. He lived off donald mostly too. I would say on par with Andy. Walsh maybe but he also had Ambrose to support him. Failing vs one great team vs failing in the backyard of pretty much every good team and being absolute dogshit for the first 8 years of your career that you'd not even make bengal XI. take your pick. Walsh, unlike Pollock & Andy singlehandedly demolished us at home- and while we were not an ATG batting side, any kid who's seen Manjrekar, Azhar, Tendulkar & Sidhu play in India should know how formidable this batting lineup is in India vs anyone .
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 47 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Failing vs one great team vs failing in the backyard of pretty much every good team and being absolute dogshit for the first 8 years of your career that you'd not even make bengal XI. take your pick. Walsh, unlike Pollock & Andy singlehandedly demolished us at home- and while we were not an ATG batting side, any kid who's seen Manjrekar, Azhar, Tendulkar & Sidhu play in India should know how formidable this batting lineup is in India vs anyone . So? He learnt from his mistakes and improved. He got sachhu Bacchus out so many times. And that was young raw Anderson.
Muloghonto Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 54 minutes ago, Kron said: So? He learnt from his mistakes and improved. He got sachhu Bacchus out so many times. And that was young raw Anderson. learning from your mistakes after 10 years of being **** ? thats not called learning from your mistakes, thats called being ****. If Wasim Akram was Aaqib Javed quality for the first half of his career, do you think he'd be rated as highly ?
Chaos Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: learning from your mistakes after 10 years of being **** ? thats not called learning from your mistakes, thats called being ****. If Wasim Akram was Aaqib Javed quality for the first half of his career, do you think he'd be rated as highly ? hello history uncle how r u?
nevada Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 Finally he is gone, having been told by TM that they want to move on from him. Could have chosen a high profile series like the Ashes or even the India series to call it quits instead of opting for a farewell test against a weak WI side.
Gollum Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 Greatest English matchwinner since I started following the game. Impossible to fill the void left by him and Broad. Dominated Sachin, Kohli and Gill, speaks of his quality and longevity.
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: learning from your mistakes after 10 years of being **** ? thats not called learning from your mistakes, thats called being ****. If Wasim Akram was Aaqib Javed quality for the first half of his career, do you think he'd be rated as highly ? He is rated highly by almost everyone. Even steyn says he is more skilful than himself.
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Chaos said: hello history uncle how r u? According to him all past greats are the greatest. 90s era bowlers bhesst 90s batsmen also bhessst Chaos 1
Muloghonto Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 7 minutes ago, Kron said: According to him all past greats are the greatest. 90s era bowlers bhesst 90s batsmen also bhessst Yes, well when you have a 140 year old sport, you are going to have periods in the past that are far better than in the future. i dunno why that is difficult to conceptualize for you kids. the best batsmen are from the 80s and 90s. the best bowlers are from 80s-2000s. thats not an inconceivable thing. Also, what dale said is called being polite on the retirement ceremony of a dude who's only great quality is longetivity.
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