Paris Olympics 2024 Discussion Thread

[Gollum]

Just now, Lord said:

 

In cricket terms, is it like losing Kohli or losing Bumrah?

Not this Kohli 

 

Talking about comparison with the T20 WC winning team, Bumrah would be Sreejesh, Rohit would be Harman. Maybe Rohidas=Pandya. 

 

PCs are a big part of modern hockey and our strengths are greatly diminished now, more in defence but attack also. 

 

A team like Aus/Bel/Neth/Ger would have blitzed us after the red card, even at the cost of losing control/possession/turnovers etc. And they would have gladly allowed us to hit 2-3 but they would have pumped in 5-6 as well. As someone said Brits adopted the Southgate method today, not a good idea when you have 1 man superiority for 3/4th of the game. Just increase the pace of play, make direct attacks, tire out the other team. Tactically they were no match for us today. Our posters were unnecessarily harsh on our guys. Our only path of winning was to form a wall in our own half and take it to shootouts, we did precisely that. 

 

Sreejesh saw lots of action today, Brit GK was a spectator for most part. Lack of game time showed in the shootouts where the Brit keeper couldn't lay a stick on any of our 4 shoots. 

[rkt.india]

18 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Lakshya lost a very winnable match. Massive Massive choke.

Har loss ko choke bana do

[rollingstoned]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Self belief comes when you are behind .That guy never looked out when he was behind in both games.

 

Maybe I am reading it wrong .

 

 

 

 

He is a former champion and will finish as a badninton goat. Why should he lack self belief? 

[Gollum]

Today's hockey match was like 1990 FIFA WC final. Argentina defender got red card early, then Maradona and co. played whole game just to take it to shootouts, they had a world class GK. Defensive masterclass but ref controversially awarded a penalty to Germany late in the game and Ger won 1-0. 

[Gollum]

Spain frustrating Belgium. 

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Spain frustrating Belgium. 

watching archery with the missus now. when she leaves i will watch that shortly lol. 

[putrevus]

Just now, rollingstoned said:

He is a former champion and will finish as a badninton goat. Why should he lack self belief? 

 

This is very much like 100m women's race. Sha'carri richardson was the favorite but  Julien had great start and kept going that is where self belief of under dog comes into picture.

 

Sen had great start on both games, But felt in both games he lacked that to beat the best. he needed to do better tactically also.

[Gollum]

You can still attack one man down for 2 minutes, maybe 3-4. Teams don't do that even if they get yellow card, except perhaps Australia in meaningless matches. 

 

But one man down for 42 minutes, think of it as 21 consecutive green cards with no respite, or 4 yellows, 1 green. Who in their right mind would even think of wasting energy on attack. 10 vs 11 in hockey is much tougher than in football because of the pace of play, shorter pitch dimensions (top team needs under 8 seconds to turnaround from its D to opponent goal, Simranjeet did it in 6 seconds in Tokyo bronze match). Then the biggest difference is PCs in hockey which are easier to convert than free kicks or corners in football. 

Edited August 4, 2024 by Gollum

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, Kron said:

watching archery with the missus now. when she leaves i will watch that shortly lol. 

Djokoraz starting soon. 

[Gollum]

Belgium made the final in Rio, won gold in Tokyo.

 

Won 2018 WC, made 2023 WC final. 

 

Surely due a bad match in KOs soon.

[Gollum]

@express bowling rolling substitution in hockey makes it easier to induct juniors. I saw all India games in Asian Champions Trophy last August, young Krishan and experienced Sreejesh would alternate with keeping duties in quarters. Even in the final when we were put under pressure by Malaysia they alternated in duties. And so many youngsters in the XI, even a local boy called Karthi Selvam, he will be an integral part of 2026 WC squad or latest 2028 LA. Physically bit weak now, will be bullied by goras. He is where Vivek Sagar Prasad was in 2021-23, similar build, and as good in skills. 

Edited August 4, 2024 by Gollum

[coffee_rules]

19 hours ago, Gollum said:

India’s Full Schedule at the Paris Olympics for August 4, Sunday:

12:30 PM – Shooting: 25m Rapid Fire Pistol Men’s Qualification Stage 1 (Vijayveer Sidhu, Anish)

12:30 PM – Golf: Men’s Golf Round 4 (Shubhankar Sharma, Gaganjeet Bhullar)

1:00 PM – Shooting: Women’s Skeet Qualification Day 2 (Maheshwari Chauhan, Raiza Dhillon)

1:30 PM – Hockey: Men’s Quarterfinal (India vs Great Britain)

1:35 PM – Athletics: Women’s 3000m Steeplechase Round 1 (Parul Chaudhary)

2:30 PM – Athletics: Men’s Long Jump Qualification (Jesswin Aldrin)

3:02 PM – Boxing: Women’s 75kg Quarterfinal (Lovlina Borgohain vs Li Qian)

3:30 PM – Badminton: Men’s Singles Semifinal (Lakshya Sen vs Victor Axelsen)

3:35 PM – Sailing: Men’s Dinghy Race 7 and Race 8 (Vishnu Saravanan)

6:05 PM  – Sailing: Women’s Dinghy Race 7 and Race 8 (Nethra Kumanan)

7:00 PM – Shooting: Women’s Skeet Final (if qualified)

Action packed day, Lovlina too will be in action. 

So except for Hockey , disappointing day so far. Lakshya can still get bronze .  Any other updates for today. 

[Gollum]

1-1, last quarter. Crowd cheering more for Spain. 

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

So except for Hockey , disappointing day so far. Lakshya can still get bronze .  Any other updates for today. 

But we expected this, no? 

 

Hockey more than made up for other disappointments, you had to see the match man. I got a bigger high today than in the T20 WC final win. 

Edited August 4, 2024 by Gollum

[Sandz]

Jesswin Aldrin finished 26th 

[deathmonger]

4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

So except for Hockey , disappointing day so far. Lakshya can still get bronze .  Any other updates for today. 

naah expected day.

 

only difference is ind win was with 10 men so that gives a big high.

 

sidhu/anish may qualify for 25m mens.

[coffee_rules]

8 minutes ago, Gollum said:

But we expected this, no? 

 

Hockey more than made up for other disappointments, you had to see the match man. I got a bigger high today than in the T20 WC final win. 

Great win with only 10 men! Couldn’t wake up at 4am! Will not miss Semis now!! Lovelina had won bronze in Tokyo , was hoping her to get past WFs.  Take that angrez!! Any match the GB loses is always good!

Edited August 4, 2024 by coffee_rules

[Gollum]

Just now, coffee_rules said:

Great win with only 10 men! Couldn’t wake up at 4am! Will not KSA Semis now!! Lovelina had won bronze in Tokyo , was hoping her to get past WFs.

She was against top seed and Tokyo silver medalist. Anyway I have given up on boxing, don't understand the judging. 

[Gollum]

Vincent Vanasch the Belgian goalkeeper is another legend of the sport, Similar in stature to Sreejesh, same age. If it goes to shootouts Belgium is probably toughest to beat, but sports can be funny, they are getting frustrated here. @neel roy 

 

Big miss by Spain there, got to take those 

[deathmonger]

2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Great win with only 10 men! Couldn’t wake up at 4am! Will not KSA Semis now!! Lovelina had won bronze in Tokyo , was hoping her to get past WFs.

**** seeding though