Paris Olympics 2024 Discussion Thread

[rollingstoned]

Just now, ganeshran said:

Trials were already scheduled on the same day.

 

But there is confusion on the rules. India Wrestling said you can try out for two categories, UWW said you cant. 

 

So if you can try out for two categories then they naturally should have scheduled trials next day. whats the point in letting athletes try for two weight categories if they cant fight at the right body weight. Or those chomus should have simply said you cant try out for both and Phogat would have to pick one - most likely 53 kg. Dumb*ery all round cost us at least a silver

That was a decision she should have made instead of trying to straddle both boats. Don't think they needed to do even more than what they did considering they were already making an exception for her. These athletes don't decide which weight category they will compete in only at the last minute because they cannot make their minds up. 

[bharathh]

1 minute ago, ganeshran said:

Trials were already scheduled on the same day.

 

But there is confusion on the rules. India Wrestling said you can try out for two categories, UWW said you cant. 

 

So if you can try out for two categories then they naturally should have scheduled trials next day. whats the point in letting athletes try for two weight categories if they cant fight at the right body weight. Or those chomus should have simply said you cant try out for both and Phogat would have to pick one - most likely 53 kg. Dumb*ery all round cost us at least a silver

Dude. Vinesh holds a lot of sway in the wrestling community. She wanted to do this and got what she wanted. Not sure what pt you are trying to make here. She did well in her preferred weight class and competed in it at the Olympics. Her trying out for 2 categories didn't make any difference to her performance here. So I am not sure what the Indian federation could have done to prevent her from being overweight.

[randomGuy]

5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Few gms? How much was she over ? @randomGuy

My guess is 50.250 kg, 150 gm over the tolerance limit. I don't know if there's any official news.

[ganeshran]

1 minute ago, bharathh said:

Dude. Vinesh holds a lot of sway in the wrestling community. She wanted to do this and got what she wanted. Not sure what pt you are trying to make here. She did well in her preferred weight class and competed in it at the Olympics. Her trying out for 2 categories didn't make any difference to her performance here. So I am not sure what the Indian federation could have done to prevent her from being overweight.

 

Her preferred weight class is 53 kg. She should only have tried out for that.  I dont know why she chose to try out for both, maybe to maximise her chances.

 

Either wrestling federation should have put an end to it beforehand or scheduled it which makes it easier to compete for both.

 

There is a lot of distrust between the wrestlers and the administration. No one is on the same page which is hurting the sport a lot. This medal could have been huge for the future.

[Serpico]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

China don't do **** In any physically demanding team sport. 

 

They do well in all the individual sports that doesn't require a combination of strength power and speed particularly contact team sport. 

 

Weightlifting and a few others they do good but that's individual and again no contact. 

You remind me of the insecure aunties who don't have a single good thing to say about other kids.

 

Oh she's getting married? But too late, no?

Oh he got a job? Salary isn't great no?

Oh she had kids? Gained too much weight, no? 

 

Meanwhile her own son will be a 40 year old unmarried jobless loser who doesn't come out of his room. To cope with it, she has to put down every other kid in the neighborhood 

[bharathh]

Just now, ganeshran said:

 

Her preferred weight class is 53 kg. She should only have tried out for that.  I dont know why she chose to try out for both, maybe to maximise her chances.

 

Either wrestling federation should have put an end to it beforehand or scheduled it which makes it easier to compete for both.

 

There is a lot of distrust between the wrestlers and the administration. No one is on the same page which is hurting the sport a lot. This medal could have been huge for the future.

 

She wanted to choose! Not the federation. They gave her the choice and she qualified for 50kg. Not sure what anyone else can do about that!

[Teengunalagaan]

Aditi Ashok messed up the last hole, but Diksha Dagar doing well so far 2 under thru 13

[Gollum]

Vinesh had a disastrous campaign in Tokyo in 53 kg category. Most of her successes were pre Tokyo. Old now, this was her 3rd and last Olympics with not much to show for. She was in no position to demand things. 

 

Sure she outperformed here, but how would the selectors know beforehand? 

 

She missed the weight cut today, and Antim had a bad day. But Antim had better recent success, bronze in last World Championshio in 53 kg as an 18 yo, and being so young and full of potential right to take gamble on her. Vinesh started in 48 kg, has fought in 48, 50, 53 before...young Antim has only fought in 53. 

[Gollum]

Asli khela toh Lanka mein ho raha hai where we are set to surrender to injury hampered Lankan minnows. 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Vinesh had a disastrous campaign in Tokyo in 53 kg category. Most of her successes were pre Tokyo. Old now, this was her 3rd and last Olympics with not much to show for. She was in no position to demand things. 

 

Sure she outperformed here, but how would the selectors know beforehand? 

 

She missed the weight cut today, and Antim had a bad day. But Antim had better recent success, bronze in last World Championshio in 53 kg as an 18 yo, and being so young and full of potential right to take gamble on her. Vinesh started in 48 kg, has fought in 48, 50, 53 before...young Antim has only fought in 53. 

also despite all the controversies she was backed and selected. A guy like Ishan Kishan was thrown out like a fly for irritating the team management.

 

same context despite the controversies her beating that undefeated wrestler also deserves credit.

[Kron]

5 minutes ago, Serpico said:

You remind me of the insecure aunties who don't have a single good thing to say about other kids.

 

Oh she's getting married? But too late, no?

Oh he got a job? Salary isn't great no?

Oh she had kids? Gained too much weight, no? 

 

Meanwhile her own son will be a 40 year old unmarried jobless loser who doesn't come out of his room. To cope with it, she has to put down every other kid in the neighborhood 

china dont win any of the heavier weight classes in wrestling etc. they dont play in any of the contact sports. i am not putting them donw. stating the truth. 

they dont in the mens dvision. in womens sure they do alright there. they rack up medals in skill based sports. its not called being insecure. i do say good things if they actually excel in some of tougher physcially demanding team sports. but they dont in mens. 

they have exploited a way to rack up medals and kudos to them. 

[Real McCoy]

@Gollum its page 404. our medal tally will be.......

 

[Teengunalagaan]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Asli khela toh Lanka mein ho raha hai where we are set to surrender to injury hampered Lankan minnows. 

I would stop watching or bothering the moment Shivam Dube is your opening bowler, I don't care what the conditions are.. Dube is not even worth be a 7th bowler

[maniac]

News report is saying she was 1.5 kgs overweight. That seems more believable than 100 grams.

Edited August 7, 2024 by maniac

[Kron]

1 minute ago, Real McCoy said:

@Gollum its page 404. our medal tally will be.......

 

4th place

4

remembe the number

4

[Kron]

Just now, maniac said:

News report is saying she was 1.5 kgs overweight. That seems more believable than 100 grams.

how did that even happen? riduclously unprofessional. if you area wrestler sorry no excuses to be overweight. its your job to weight what you are supposed to on weigh in day

[Teengunalagaan]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

News report is saying she was 1.5 kgs overweight. That seems more believable than 100 grams.

From what I've read she was 2 kg overweight tried to reduce the weight overnight but fell short and was 100 grams overweight.

[Gollum]

Mirabai Chanu at Olympics 2024: Her opponents and medal chances  

 

Those interested can check this out

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Teengunalagaan said:

From what I've read she was 2 kg overweight tried to reduce the weight overnight but fell short and was 100 grams overweight.

Yeah that makes sense and fair if that’s caused her disqualification. Still no hate though; good attempt.

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, maniac said:

News report is saying she was 1.5 kgs overweight. That seems more believable than 100 grams.

 

Doctor saying 100 grams over.