Lone Wolf Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 Why isn't laser eyes sacked yet s beyond me India needs Jaiveer Shergill as MEA our own desi wolf warrior diplomat
zen Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) What’s the update on help for BD Hindus? Has the sleepy (and maybe seedy) Indian embassy in Dhaka woken up? Has the border been opened up for Hindus? What are the provisions done to accommodate those fleeing persecution? Edited September 10, 2024 by zen
zen Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) 14 hours ago, Muloghonto said: No, that is foolish. What we should want and what we are seeing popping up in Bangladesh, is demand for a second partition for hindus. 5 hindu-majority districts are being talked about for the partition plan. Why should we hindus leave our homeland to accomodate jaahil arbi faith of a mass murdering warlord pdf-file ? Did you learn that from bonobos, dolphins, and elephants? Someone must have studied and posted the research on Google as to how bonobos (or elephants or dolphins) were able to fight persecution and become quickly strong enough in the immediate short term to carve out their land without worrying about being eliminated first? Some research somewhere must have shown that certain animals in Amin’s Uganada survived and created their space when Indian* fled. PS * = Indian origin people. Clarifying since your Prof has taught you to focus on minor irrelevant details. And to save you from wasting your time on researching what were the actual “nationalities” of the those “Indians” who fled. Edited September 10, 2024 by zen coffee_rules 1
diga Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 31 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Joke's on you if you think that's the actual concern If you think BD can bully India, then you are not serious coffee_rules 1
mishra Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 32 minutes ago, zen said: What’s the update on help for BD Hindus? Has the sleepy (and maybe seedy) Indian embassy in Dhaka woken up? Has the border been opened up for Hindus? What are the provisions done to accommodate those fleeing persecution? Hindus in Bangladesh dont have to flee. If they have to, Better make another country within Bangladesh. Russians have unequivocally rejected the Western and Bangladeshi narrative. So we have a ally just in case we need to avoid UN by P5 against our future actions, in case if we need to take any. Start with repeal of AFSPA in MAnipur and let army deal with Kukis for couple of weeks.
zen Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, mishra said: Hindus in Bangladesh dont have to flee. If they have to, Better make another country within Bangladesh. Russians have unequivocally rejected the Western and Bangladeshi narrative. So we have a ally just in case we need to avoid UN by P5 against our future actions, in case if we need to take any. Start with repeal of AFSPA in MAnipur and let army deal with Kukis for couple of weeks. The point is to safeguard lives first, offering a choice to those who want to move out (even temporarily). The theoretical Hindu nation can pop up at its own time. Even in a Hindu majority India, if people wanted to carve a Hindu nation from a secular nation, it could take time. PS My points are not about safeguarding BJP or Congress’ interests but people’s! Edited September 10, 2024 by zen
mishra Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 ^ Bangladeshi Government is now under pressure to stop BNP and Jamaat fanaticism. Instead of going to dhakatribune, Best way to look at what is happening in Bangladesh is via https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd which can show impact of various economic levers and https://www-prothomalo-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp Both will tell if Bangldeshi Government is under enough pressure to change the course. PS: Looks like Hindus came en-mass and protesting in Bangladesh for killing of Hindu boy in a Police station and similar incidents. coffee_rules 1
randomGuy Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) Some good news this young boy was saved by police/army Edited September 10, 2024 by randomGuy mishra, zen, Vickydev and 1 other 4
mishra Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, zen said: The point is to safeguard lives first, offering a choice to those who want to move out (even temporarily). The theoretical Hindu nation can pop up at its own time. Even in a Hindu majority India, if people wanted to carve a Hindu nation from a secular nation, it could take time. PS My points are not about safeguarding BJP or Congress’ interests but people’s! See, https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/editorial/no-minority-tag-please Below is a must. If Bangladesh can get it implemented that will guarantee some legal level of deterrence. I am certain that Bangladeshis Jamaat and BNP will try their best not to introduce it with some diplomatic coated reasoning Quote The leaders of the minority communities during the meeting with the Chief Adviser placed a number of demands that included enactment of a minority protection act, formation of a national minority commission and a minority ministry, and ensuring proportional representation and participation in the government, parliament, and all representative bodies based on ratio of the population. The chief adviser urged the community not to consider themselves as the minority. Bangladesh, he said, is 'one family' and there should be no question of making differences and divisions in the family. Referring to their grievances, he said, it is the failure of the state to create a situation where legal rights and justice for all citizens can be secured. He urged them to push for establishing democratic rights, freedom of speech, and human rights without considering themselves as a minority people.
zen Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) 14 minutes ago, mishra said: See, https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/editorial/no-minority-tag-please Below is a must. If Bangladesh can get it implemented that will guarantee some legal level of deterrence. I am certain that Bangladeshis Jamaat and BNP will try their best not to introduce it with some diplomatic coated reasoning An issue is that when a wide-spread lynching happens, all that can get thrown out of the window. Hindus have to become stronger and united where if Hindus in x part of the world are in trouble, they feel comforted that Hindus in y part of the world would step up for them. We need to begin to transition to that mindset. Right now, we are likely to see some folks go that they are Bangladeshi, not Indians, and so on. Some would even be happy to see Hinduism go and adapt “nationalism” like the communist did. For me a (good) religion is a greater uniter than a nation. Nations come and go, Religion has been present since time immemorial. Usually, the world map changes every 70-80 years. India is less than 100 years old. In the future, I would not be surprised if a Hindu nation is carved out from a secular one. We might even see a Sikh nation formed as well if a Hindu nation is carved out. This scenario would be similar to the one in the 1940s where nations in subcon were carved out based on Islam and secularism. Edited September 10, 2024 by zen
Lone Wolf Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, mishra said: Hindus in Bangladesh dont have to flee. If they have to, Better make another country within Bangladesh. Russians have unequivocally rejected the Western and Bangladeshi narrative. So we have a ally just in case we need to avoid UN by P5 against our future actions, in case if we need to take any. Start with repeal of AFSPA in MAnipur and let army deal with Kukis for couple of weeks. Bongs are not a bunch of warlike people though. As per historical accounts Only few hundred troops of Sultanate regiments used to control newly conquered areas in there. It was also the eastern portion where Islam spread with minimal resistance. Sufism is partly to blame there too. The overexcited conquerors than ran into Ahoms whom Bakhtiar Khilji called Turks of the east. Edited September 10, 2024 by Lone Wolf coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Bongs are not a bunch of warlike people though. As per historical accounts Only few hundred troops of Sultanate regiments used to control newly conquered areas in there. It was also the eastern portion where Islam spread with minimal resistance. Sufism is partly to blame there too. The overexcited conquerors than ran into Ahoms whom Bakhtiar Khilji called Turks of the east. Somebody said ——— if Germans or Spanish were colonizers, there would not be so many revolutionaries from Bengal. British were milder with lathis, and hence Bengalis revolted. If they had used guns , Bengalis would be happily sitting at home! ———— could be true looking at history and now in BD Edited September 10, 2024 by coffee_rules Lone Wolf 1
Muloghonto Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 7 hours ago, zen said: Did you learn that from bonobos, dolphins, and elephants? Someone must have studied and posted the research on Google as to how bonobos (or elephants or dolphins) were able to fight persecution and become quickly strong enough in the immediate short term to carve out their land without worrying about being eliminated first? Some research somewhere must have shown that certain animals in Amin’s Uganada survived and created their space when Indian* fled. PS * = Indian origin people. Clarifying since your Prof has taught you to focus on minor irrelevant details. And to save you from wasting your time on researching what were the actual “nationalities” of the those “Indians” who fled. You seem quite butthurt that your nonsense theories are easily proven false by studying animals. Perhaps get a better professor who is better at teaching ethics as well.
Muloghonto Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Bongs are not a bunch of warlike people though. As per historical accounts Only few hundred troops of Sultanate regiments used to control newly conquered areas in there. It was also the eastern portion where Islam spread with minimal resistance. Sufism is partly to blame there too. The overexcited conquerors than ran into Ahoms whom Bakhtiar Khilji called Turks of the east. That is because those were not bongs but kannadigas. Sens were not bongs and could barely control bengal after the fall of the Pal empire- they even had to get a brahmin class imported from Kannauj ( Kulin gotra brahmins) to help them run their new state that was being re-ordered. If bongs werent war-like people, then bongs wouldnt make up nearly 50% of all the violent rebels in the independence era.
zen Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: You seem quite butthurt that your nonsense theories are easily proven false by studying animals. Perhaps get a better professor who is better at teaching ethics as well. I don’t get butthurt by trolls. I teach them a lesson by shoving their irrelevant research down their backside
Muloghonto Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, zen said: I don’t get butthurt by trolls. I teach them a lesson by shoving their irrelevant research down their backside Ah so you were able to refute my comments...lol. Trolling is when you make a position and resort to ad-hominem to defend your point and argue in bad faith, troll. That is why you are so butthurt over in this thread and dragging other thread stuff here, because you got exposed for making up nonsense and are too egoic to admit error.
zen Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Muloghonto said: Ah so you were able to refute my comments...lol. Trolling is when you make a position and resort to ad-hominem to defend your point and argue in bad faith, troll. That is why you are so butthurt over in this thread and dragging other thread stuff here, because you got exposed for making up nonsense and are too egoic to admit error. Did you learn that from Bonobos or Elephants? Chaos 1
Muloghonto Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 5 minutes ago, zen said: Did you learn that from Bonobos or Elephants? i deduced that from your behaviour. Go to a hindu guru to seek help for your ego issues.
coffee_rules Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 5 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: That is because those were not bongs but kannadigas. Sens were not bongs and could barely control bengal after the fall of the Pal empire- they even had to get a brahmin class imported from Kannauj ( Kulin gotra brahmins) to help them run their new state that was being re-ordered. If bongs werent war-like people, then bongs wouldnt make up nearly 50% of all the violent rebels in the independence era. Abbey! Hum kahan se aagaye beech mein? How could Kannadigas rule the best in other parts that were under rashtrakutas, chalukyas (pulakeshi defeated North India Harshavardhana). And fail only Bengal? They didn’t import a Brahmin class, but were Brahma-Kshatriyas , Brahmins who took up arms like the Peshwas
zen Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Muloghonto said: i deduced that from your behaviour. Go to a hindu guru to seek help for your ego issues. Ah ha, the Bonobos’ research hasn’t revealed to you that I am like a “guru” … Maybe wait once the info is updated Chaos 1
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