coffee_rules Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 This is an assault on Hindu aastha. Whoever it is involved in this contamination with animal fat (including beef tallow, pig fat and fish oil). What a sham government from Jagan kodaka mishra, Vickydev and Chaos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 It is time for a non-government body that is established to protect Dharma matters . This temple control of government is the reason for such dharmabhrasht activities in our temples. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 From my childhood days of visiting Tirupati a few times a year and Guruvayoor several times a year, I have been listening to people talking about the perils of handing the reins of temple admin into government hands. My father was quite plugged into Guruvayoor Devaswom happenings in those days. Back then, they were discussing political interference, financial irregularities, siphoning of money into politicians' hands, VIP privileges at the cost of devotees (this last one was more of a Tirupati issue than Guruvayoor in those days). Separation of religion and state is a must - even if the state is led by "Dhaarmiks." Lord and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 9 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: From my childhood days of visiting Tirupati a few times a year and Guruvayoor several times a year, I have been listening to people talking about the perils of handing the reins of temple admin into government hands. My father was quite plugged into Guruvayoor Devaswom happenings in those days. Back then, they were discussing political interference, financial irregularities, siphoning of money into politicians' hands, VIP privileges at the cost of devotees (this last one was more of a Tirupati issue than Guruvayoor in those days). Separation of religion and state is a must - even if the state is led by "Dhaarmiks." This control of temples was introduced by the British in the Madras presidency as early as 1817 and various endowment acts in the early 20th century. The Independent Indian government continued these acts till date. In some "poor" temples, government mandates how much prasadam is to be distributed and what kind of pooja servies is to be rendered. This is state control of religion that no other religion has to endure. Richer temples are taxed heavily and even money is siphoned off. Even th BJP government in 10 years have done nothing as it is the least of priorities for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 When all religious institutions run after cheapest ingredients then this is not unexpected. There were 5 suppliers of Ghee to TTD and the rates were between Rs 320 to Rs 411. Names are Premier Agri Foods, Kriparam Diary, Vaishnavi, Sri Parag Milk and AR Dairy. Prima facie these rates are not viable rates for supplying Pure Ghee. https://news.tirumala.org/no-compromise-in-ghee-quality/ Is it possible to get pure ghee for 320? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I, usually, say “no” to the sweets at the temples. I can make an exception at Iskcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 18 minutes ago, Singh bling said: When all religious institutions run after cheapest ingredients then this is not unexpected. There were 5 suppliers of Ghee to TTD and the rates were between Rs 320 to Rs 411. Names are Premier Agri Foods, Kriparam Diary, Vaishnavi, Sri Parag Milk and AR Dairy. Prima facie these rates are not viable rates for supplying Pure Ghee. https://news.tirumala.org/no-compromise-in-ghee-quality/ Is it possible to get pure ghee for 320? Tripathi doesn’t buy a kg here and there. They buy probably multiple tons. When you are buying at such quantity they can get at a wholesale price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) I have no energy and no words to say anything. This is so shocking revelation. Its even more shocking when than Dalada Ghee. https://www.business-standard.com/article/management/40-years-ago-and-now-how-dalda-built-and-lost-its-monopoly-115030501153_1.html Story doesnt say but animal fat was found at the time Edited September 20 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 34 minutes ago, gattaca said: Tripathi doesn’t buy a kg here and there. They buy probably multiple tons. When you are buying at such quantity they can get at a wholesale price. Amul price of cow ghee is 650 plus. Margin is small in ghee. If you are going for cheap product then something is fishy gattaca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 45 minutes ago, zen said: I, usually, say “no” to the sweets at the temples. I can make an exception at Iskcon. why isckon though? iskcon is no holy institution. Apart from its founder, Srila Prabhupada and some of his pure devotees, others used the fame of isckon to have sex, drugs and rock and roll in the 80s and 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Amul price of cow ghee is 650 plus. Margin is small in ghee. If you are going for cheap product then something is fishy agree but the issue is the temple is run by govt not by a religious institution. that's the issue. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: why isckon though? iskcon is no holy institution. Apart from its founder, Srila Prabhupada and some of his pure devotees, others used the fame of isckon to have sex, drugs and rock and roll in the 80s and 90s. I go there at times to pray in the temple (I don’t care about other stuff and am probably good enough to lecture others on religion). The food is usually considered hygienic relatively speaking. The Iskcon temple in my area sells snacks and has a Gujarati restaurant as well. PS Iskcon Baroda Edited September 20 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 Nandini offered the least price, but Hagan’s TTD refused and went to middlemen. I have seen videos on industry grade Panner. It is more of veg oil and hardly any milk. This decision to use open market ghee is atrocious. They had Christians in TTD admin board and they can take such decisions without knowing Hindu practices. Bsdks Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 13 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: why isckon though? iskcon is no holy institution. Apart from its founder, Srila Prabhupada and some of his pure devotees, others used the fame of isckon to have sex, drugs and rock and roll in the 80s and 90s. Prabhupada himself was good is what I heard. He was very old when he established ISKON. But once he handed over reins to others. They were bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Amul price of cow ghee is 650 plus. Margin is small in ghee. If you are going for cheap product then something is fishy The problem was board. They had Christians on Hindu temple board. They looted temple funds and built multiple churches in tirupathi and gave lower bus fares for Christians. Jagan has converted multiple people in AP the conversion is crazy. No one knows the actual figures but I heard from few AP friend every village has a church and most are converted. Edited September 20 by gattaca raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 (edited) All this mismanagement of TTD started with YSR , a converted Christian CM from 2004, died like a pig in a chopper crash rightfully Edited September 20 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: All this mismanagement of TTD started with YSR , a converted Christian CM from 2004, died like a pig in a chopper crash rightfully He was rowdy. He got people killed. No mercy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Singh bling said: Amul price of cow ghee is 650 plus. Margin is small in ghee. If you are going for cheap product then something is fishy Temple needs 15000 kegs of ghee per day. The government appointed admin folks (possibly other religions) took bribes and negotiated price for an adulterated variety. These problems are because of government bureaucracy meddling with temple management. There is no government control of gurudwaras, churches or mosques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, zen said: I go there at times to pray in the temple (I don’t care about other stuff and am probably good enough to lecture others on religion). The food is usually considered hygienic relatively speaking. The Iskcon temple in my area sells snacks and has a Gujarati restaurant as well. PS Iskcon Baroda Yeah I agree the food that I ate in one of the temples in USA was decent. I don't think the pujaris in the local iskcon temple are bad. Its only the top level people. But they have lost Prabhupada's teachings only follow traditions like everyday hindus zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: All this mismanagement of TTD started with YSR , a converted Christian CM from 2004, died like a pig in a chopper crash rightfully This sounds like a quote from the mob movies like The Untouchables. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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