England tour of Pakistan 2024 | Belt and Road Initiative series Part 2 |3 Tests | Oct 7 - Oct 28 | 10:30 AM IST | Discussion

[jigjig]

1 minute ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Pakistan's best bet is to score big in first inning.

 

They don't have batting to perform on 5 days. It can do well in 1 inning max.

 

Bowling on the other hand is hopeless in any situation.

 

1st v BD - they should have never declared at 448/6. They should have gone on to score 550 and put BD out of the game.

2nd test v BD - they did well to score 274 on tricky pitch. Bowlers should have given then 100+ lead when BD were 26/6.

 

They are multiple ocassions when they almost match first inning score of opposition and yet lose the game.

 

 

If they lose tomorrow, they wont bet on scoring big in the first innings also .

 

I think in the long run, it will be better for them to play under scoreboard pressure in the first innings. They can start working on a draw sooner in the test 

[deathmonger]

3 minutes ago, jigjig said:

Bangladesh are a better rival for us 

They will also improve but I don't think we'll have any rivals as such.

[jigjig]

5 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

They will also improve but I don't think we'll have any rivals as such.

I'd say purely on the players and skill Bdesh will threaten us more than Pakstan 

[putrevus]

England Full tour vs Bangladesh would have been more interesting. They have better bowling attack.

 

English batsmen got early christmas , they will fill their boots.

[putrevus]

30 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Pakistan's best bet is to score big in first inning.

 

They don't have batting to perform on 5 days. It can do well in 1 inning max.

 

Bowling on the other hand is hopeless in any situation.

 

1st v BD - they should have never declared at 448/6. They should have gone on to score 550 and put BD out of the game.

2nd test v BD - they did well to score 274 on tricky pitch. Bowlers should have given then 100+ lead when BD were 26/6.

 

They are multiple ocassions when they almost match first inning score of opposition and yet lose the game.

 

 

They did score big on first innings.556 runs are lot of runs. But when you have no bowlers fast or spin these things happen.

 

 

I want to know which idiots gave ICC player of the year award to Afridi and Azam in consecutive years.They never deserved those awards.

Edited October 10, 2024 by putrevus

[mishra]

Now I am absolutely certain that these Bhikharis are creating phattaas just to earn few Chavannis via sale of ticket and it’s working. 

[deathmonger]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They did score big on first innings.556 runs are lot of runs. But when you have no bowlers fast or spin these things happen.

 

 

I want to know which idiots gave ICC player of the year award to Afridi and Azam in consecutive.They never deserved those awards.

covid time plus pr hype of the 2021 wc

 

in the future it'll look so funny

 

its not like they even won anything the years they won the awards. for all the hype of 2021, remember they didn't even make the final lol.

Edited October 10, 2024 by deathmonger

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

India at home even in 1990s were very good in batting, I don't think Sachin was carrying Indian batting even in 1990s.

 

Sachin never had this sort of peak in 1990s or for that matter anytime in his career.

pre-tennis elbow Sachin I dont think played even a single test series where he didn't drop a century.  That's how consistent he was.  He was at his absolute prime peak in the 2nd half of 1990s, but tragically for him BCCI had discovered the golden goose of ODI monetization so they played an obscene # of useless ODIs and very few tests. In fact, in his best year in 1998, he played maybe 4 tests?

 

So those who didn't watch him bat in the 1990s, they simply have no clue about the level of his absolute domination and freakish consistency against any and all opponents, both home and away, especially in those challenging conditions of SA and Aus against those peak bowling attacks.

 

There's a reason why Allan Donald calls Sachin the best batsman he ever bowled at.  And then more than a decade later, Dale Steyn ended up saying the same.

 

So lets not spout BS without basis.

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

As if he did anything great in 3 or 4 test series. Sachin was steady eddy ,nothing more.He never had peak, he was great , but don't bring that nonsensical excuse.

 

Nobody stopped him from scoring 380 on a road where SL scored 962.He was captain.

 

90s was played on roads.

 

Plus he played till 2013.

your ignorant hate boner for Tendy is showing.

 

 

But yes, Sachin's one glaring hole in his resume is the lack of 'daddy' hundreds.  He used to regularly score centuries, but most of those would below 130/140.  In fact, for majority of his career he didn't have any doubles.  Something he explicitly tried to correct later on, and not always in optimal fashion.

 

So its not as if I'm blind or camouflaging his 'shortcomings' if we can call it that, but lets be honest, Tendy in the 90s was at a very high level - arguably higher than Root or even Smith's purple patch.  And anybody who watched cricket and understood the sport in those days acknowledged it.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Now I am absolutely certain that these Bhikharis are creating phattaas just to earn few Chavannis via sale of ticket and it’s working. 

never attribute intent where incompetence exists.

[mishra]

40 minutes ago, sandeep said:

never attribute intent where incompetence exists.

Their fans wanted Teams to visit the country. Well! they got it in Style

[putrevus]

53 minutes ago, sandeep said:

pre-tennis elbow Sachin I dont think played even a single test series where he didn't drop a century.  That's how consistent he was.  He was at his absolute prime peak in the 2nd half of 1990s, but tragically for him BCCI had discovered the golden goose of ODI monetization so they played an obscene # of useless ODIs and very few tests. In fact, in his best year in 1998, he played maybe 4 tests?

 

So those who didn't watch him bat in the 1990s, they simply have no clue about the level of his absolute domination and freakish consistency against any and all opponents, both home and away, especially in those challenging conditions of SA and Aus against those peak bowling attacks.

 

There's a reason why Allan Donald calls Sachin the best batsman he ever bowled at.  And then more than a decade later, Dale Steyn ended up saying the same.

 

So lets not spout BS without basis.

There is nothing great he did in 1990s.There was no domination, I also saw his 1990s not just his followers.Stop making him something he was not and  spread BS. He was steady eddy then which remained for rest of his career.

 

Lara was more dominant in 1990s till he became too cocky for his own good.

 

His 1998  which you  are referrring also was  his best year in odis he scored 9 100s  in 35 matches and avg 60. Kohli blew that away by averaging 133 and scoring  6 100s in 14 matches in 2018. If he had played 35 plus matches like Sachin who knows where he would have ended up.

 

Sachin best year in tests was in 2010 where he played his best winning cricket.Stop spouting BS we also saw his matches in 1990s.

 

BCCI was clever in playing more odis because they knew they had a useless test  team which laid egg the moment they left Indian shores led by our genius.

 

There is a reason why India failed to win a single test away from home in 1990s bowling was not the only reason.

Edited October 10, 2024 by putrevus

[jigjig]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

They did score big on first innings.556 runs are lot of runs. But when you have no bowlers fast or spin these things happen.

 

 

I want to know which idiots gave ICC player of the year award to Afridi and Azam in consecutive years.They never deserved those awards.

That was an effort to revive a sinking ship 

[goose]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

pre-tennis elbow Sachin I dont think played even a single test series where he didn't drop a century.  That's how consistent he was.  He was at his absolute prime peak in the 2nd half of 1990s, but tragically for him BCCI had discovered the golden goose of ODI monetization so they played an obscene # of useless ODIs and very few tests. In fact, in his best year in 1998, he played maybe 4 tests?

 

So those who didn't watch him bat in the 1990s, they simply have no clue about the level of his absolute domination and freakish consistency against any and all opponents, both home and away, especially in those challenging conditions of SA and Aus against those peak bowling attacks.

 

There's a reason why Allan Donald calls Sachin the best batsman he ever bowled at.  And then more than a decade later, Dale Steyn ended up saying the same.

 

So lets not spout BS without basis.

 

consistency is only something one can marvel at in real time. no stat conveys this. a low score was headline news

[New guy]

3 hours ago, putrevus said:

As if he did anything great in 3 or 4 test series. Sachin was steady eddy ,nothing more.He never had peak, he was great , but don't bring that nonsensical excuse.

 

Nobody stopped him from scoring 380 on a road where SL scored 962.He was captain.

 

90s was played on roads.

 

Plus he played till 2013.

Sachin has scored 395 in 3 match series and over 300 in 2 match series.

 

Despite playing till 2013 he only played two 5 match series, one when he was a teenager and one with an injury. He never played any other 5 match series.

 

He was still topping charts years after years in his peak. But but he never had a peak you guys...

 

Cold hard facts are not excuses 

 

[New guy]

30 minutes ago, putrevus said:

There is nothing great he did in 1990s.There was no domination, I also saw his 1990s not just his followers.Stop making him something he was not and  spread BS. He was steady eddy then which remained for rest of his career.

 

Lara was more dominant in 1990s till he became too cocky for his own good.

 

His 1998  which you  are referrring also was  his best year in odis he scored 9 100s  in 35 matches and avg 60. Kohli blew that away by averaging 133 and scoring  6 100s in 14 matches in 2018. If he had played 35 plus matches like Sachin who knows where he would have ended up.

 

Sachin best year in tests was in 2010 where he played his best winning cricket.Stop spouting BS we also saw his matches in 1990s.

 

BCCI was clever in playing more odis because they knew they had a useless test  team which laid egg the moment they left Indian shores led by our genius.

 

There is a reason why India failed to win a single test away from home in 1990s bowling was not the only reason.

The only one spouting bullshit out of his nether region is you. 

 

.you are such a moron you bring ODI stats but fail to acknowledge he was hardly playing tests at his peak despite you yourself bringing the point up

 

You again brought the 2010 point but didn't have the common sense to understand he was playing way more tests then than each year in the 90s.

 

If you had two brain cells you would check the average scores indian team made in Australia etc where they lost or drew during sachins time. 

 

Here's a hint, they scored MORE than the average score india made in series they won in aus recently 

 

When the bowling became half decent we won or drew series even under Sachin,  which we never did before. 

[New guy]

8 minutes ago, goose said:

 

consistency is only something one can marvel at in real time. no stat conveys this. a low score was headline news

Some people just want attention once in a while and will do anything to get it.

[Throwaib_Chuckter]

@putrevus @sandeep @New guy

Please cease and desist.

 

It's blasphemous to take Tendlya and Brat's names in a Youm-e-Zalaalat thread reserved for Parchistan.

 

[Trichromatic]

6 hours ago, putrevus said:

They did score big on first innings.556 runs are lot of runs. But when you have no bowlers fast or spin these things happen.

 

 

I want to know which idiots gave ICC player of the year award to Afridi and Azam in consecutive years.They never deserved those awards.

 

England is only team who could have made them lose such games.

[Zero_Unit]

7 hours ago, jigjig said:

Bangladesh are a better rival for us 

Recent test match and t20 says otherwise. If this was Bangladesh at its peak, when they went to Asia Cup final couple times - that team was competitive. Not this broken Shakib and old fart mushfiqur