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How to make a balance between good players of spin and equally good batsmen against pace and bounce in Indian cricket


Suhaan

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Posted
10 hours ago, Suhaan said:

This has been our problem,it's been perhaps 20 years we have struggled against decent spin let alone quality spin

If we channel our focus on playing spin well like traditionally we had we may loose on pace and bounce

Ordering almost all the pitches to be ragers in domestics and dictating even the internationals playing domestics in free time may well hurt our pace and bounce preparation

Fast bowling which usually suffers may suffer further

So what can be done to strike the right balance,what the board may come up with or should they

We will loose more at home ,as we stare at transition

But in the longer run,this matters,our spinn playing has been Uber atrocious,each SENA side is better than us not talking about the Asian sides

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I'm not sure it's even possible to have such complete batters in Tests anymore. 

 

Root himself can't play well on turners or pitches with bounce. 

 

And he doesn't play IPL, T20Is or most bilateral ODIs. 

 

What hope is there for young multi format batters who play limited overs all the time ?

 

 

Posted
6 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Difference is height. Ajaz is slow too but still useless here. 

 

Same Santner was treated like a part timer in SL

Ajaz doesnt put the same revs on the ball. 

 

It's about the pace and length. 

 

Santner's pace was slower and length was much more consistent than either Ash or Jadeja.

 

All our collapses going back to Pune 2017 have been to left arm spinners who bowled in a particular speed range - O Keefe, Hartley, Kuhnemann, now Santner. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Ajaz doesnt put the same revs on the ball. 

 

It's about the pace and length. 

 

Santner's pace was slower and length was much more consistent than either Ash or Jadeja.

 

All our collapses going back to Pune 2017 have been to left arm spinners who bowled in a particular speed range - O Keefe, Hartley, Kuhnemann, now Santner. 

 

That's more our batting's problem rather than bowler doing anything special. Kiwi batsmen themselves might have played it better. SL had no problem with Santner on similar pitches.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

That's more our batting's problem rather than bowler doing anything special. Kiwi batsmen themselves might have played it better. SL had no problem with Santner on similar pitches.

Check the match thread. Santner turned the ball more than any of our spinners. More than 5 degree turn from a length and massive drift as well.  Pitches were not similar.

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