Gautam Gambhir performance as coach

[deepdynamo]

Early indication: Great in T20s ( with no senior leeches) but mediocre in ODI and Test so far.

If anybody want to compare, here is a similar topic for Rahul Dravid tenure
Rahul Dravid performance as coach


Tests:
Won 2-0 vs BD (home)
Lost 0-3 vs NZ (home)

ODIs:
Lost 0-2 vs SL ( away)

T20s:
Won 3-0 vs SL (away)
Won 3-0 vs BD (home)
 

[Lord]

46 all out, series loss in SL,whitewashed at home

 

Gambhir has already touched new lows not seen under Dravid or any other coach for that matter

[Ultimate_Game]

What exactly can a coach do when captain Rohit has his own preferred players and doesn't even listen to the coach. BCCI and Jay Shah has enabled Rohit to do pretty much anything he wants and he has more control over the playing XI. Gambhir can only get right players in the squad but if Rohit doesn't want to play likes of Jurel, Axar, Harshit, Nitish etc. what does Gambhir actually do 

 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/harshit-rana-gambhirs-choice-he-pushed-his-case-nitish-reddy-desperate-selection-for-australia-tour-bcci-official-101729881831655.html

[deepdynamo]

23 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

What exactly can a coach do when captain Rohit has his own preferred players and doesn't even listen to the coach. BCCI and Jay Shah has enabled Rohit to do pretty much anything he wants and he has more control over the playing XI. Gambhir can only get right players in the squad but if Rohit doesn't want to play likes of Jurel, Axar, Harshit, Nitish etc. what does Gambhir actually do 

 

 

Well he knew what he is getting into. Came up with lot of fanfare and media hype but it all came crashing down in one series. Ideally he should have come after Rohit-Kohli retirement or should have taken charge of T20 team that is devoid of senior leeches. But it is what it is. His portfolio as coach got ravaged and he is under massive pressure. Make no mistake, the kind of person Gambhir is, a disaster BGT and he will resign immediately.

[Ultimate_Game]

19 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Well he knew what he is getting into. Came up with lot of fanfare and media hype but it all came crashing down in one series. Ideally he should have come after Rohit-Kohli retirement or should have taken charge of T20 team that is devoid of senior leeches. But it is what it is. His portfolio as coach got ravaged and he is under massive pressure. Make no mistake, the kind of person Gambhir is, a disaster BGT and he will resign immediately.

 

Yup, it's more than clear now that you can't make any realistic change unless Rohit and Kohli either retire or are dropped. With them in the team, coach is merely a puppet and a scapegoat.

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Yup, it's more than clear now that you can't make any realistic change unless Rohit and Kohli either retire or are dropped. With them in the team, coach is merely a puppet and a scapegoat.

RoKoAsheJa are the elephants in the room

These 4 needto go asap,sure there will be few hiccups but we will come good like we had in the past

Part of nature,this applies in bowling as well

Need to drop Siraj,need development programs for future prospects who can replace Shami Bumrah means like for like replacement

[tapandrun]

Would not read or suggest from current results of few series, gg just walked in but would like see his decisions in that time.

The positive thing is Ind now able to bring multi-utility players in T20is and playing the way it should, there is wkt keeper batter in top 3.

 

The decision to not to give Rana a debut match till now is concerning and the decision taken during the NZ test-series are concerning too.

 

Still having faith in KL rahul sending him to Ind A games to play as opener ...... he averages 34 in 53 matches, not  record one would want for a top 6 batter in a line-up. 

 

Now can gg as coach can he tell rohit, klohi that their time might be up and dropout kl from any plans in Ind intnl side time should be up, lets bring in some new player invest in them and see if they perform.

Transition plan fr Ash and Jadeja should be ready, axar can be stopgap but not replacement fr jadeja.  think they are looking sundar as ashwin's replacement .

 

Can gg make three 3 different sides for 3 different format can he segregate between white-ball player and red-ball player  or he too will toe  the line of all format players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 11 by tapandrun

[deepdynamo]

15 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Can gg make three 3 different sides for 3 different format can he segregate between white-ball player and red-ball player  or he too will toe  the line of all format players.

We are seeing that in T20s where there are no Rohit, Kohli, Jadeja, Ashwin, Shami and KL. So, T20 team is more or less a specialist team with just 3-4 players overlapping with other formats. The problem lies in longer format though.

[tapandrun]

7 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

We are seeing that in T20s where there are no Rohit, Kohli, Jadeja, Ashwin, Shami and KL. So, T20 team is more or less a specialist team with just 3-4 players overlapping with other formats. The problem lies in longer format though.

not due to gg , its because rohit, kolhi, jadeja etc .. retired 

[wanted_desi]

I sometimes wonder if Guru Chappell joined as coach of this current Indian cricket team-LOL. 

[deepdynamo]

13 hours ago, wanted_desi said:

I sometimes wonder if Guru Chappell joined as coach of this current Indian cricket team-LOL. 

 

Chappal vs Kohli would have been epic. 

On a serious note, Gambhir could have taken charge of T20 team while VVS given the transition charge for seniors to give up completely.

[nitinbwj]

Nalayak. Z- grade.

[Frustrated]

Right now the road is clear.

 

BCCI should let GG be the head coach for Ind only for SENA tours. And Laxman for Domestic series along with other series in Asia.

 

[Lord]

On 11/12/2024 at 1:32 PM, deepdynamo said:

 

Chappal vs Kohli would have been epic. 

On a serious note, Gambhir could have taken charge of T20 team while VVS given the transition charge for seniors to give up completely.

 

Why? Gambhir needs to take charge of whole setup

[express bowling]

The real issue seems to be superstar captains having too much power from 2011 onwards.

 

Whenever they are missing, we rise to new highs.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

The real issue seems to be superstar captains having too much power from 2011 onwards.

 

Whenever they are missing, we rise to new highs.

yes and the seniority culture and mixing formats. 

 

Performance of all coaches are similar if we take this into account

[deepdynamo]

16 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Why? Gambhir needs to take charge of whole setup

 

GG is most comfortable when given flexibility to choose his arsenal. He got that in T20s ( in KKR as well) and we could clearly see the difference-multi dimension players, flexible batting positions, variety in bowling, unorthodox captaincy and aggressive approach.

 

In contrast, ODI & Test team - underperforming seniors are hogging up vital spots and that has some effect and maybe held him back.  VVS could have filled this one year gap until all seniors are phased out gradually.
 

[Lord]

8 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

 

GG is most comfortable when given flexibility to choose his arsenal. He got that in T20s ( in KKR as well) and we could clearly see the difference-multi dimension players, flexible batting positions, variety in bowling, unorthodox captaincy and aggressive approach.

 

Everybody is comfortable there. Previous coaches didnt have that luxury. He needs to take on the mess fully.

8 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

 

In contrast, ODI & Test team - underperforming seniors are hogging up vital spots and that has some effect and maybe held him back.  VVS could have filled this one year gap until all seniors are phased out gradually.
 

Again its Gambhir's job to phase them out. If he can't do that in right time he'll be judged on it. 

[gattaca]

Brilliant selections from him selecting nitish reddy and Rana. Nitish was definitely the key player and Rana contributed. He left out Ashwin and Jadeja definitely out of the box thinking. Next big test is the pink ball test. Stralia played most no of pink ball tests and have advantage. If we can bat like in Perth we may have chance. 

Edited November 25 by gattaca

[express bowling]

Gambhir is combining well with new Captains Bumrah and SKY.

 

And bringing in new high ceiling players like Harshit, Mayank, Nitish, Washington, Jurel. 

 

Not following the queue system and not selecting mediocre players in the queue.

 

Like it a lot !