Rahul Dravid performance as coach

[deepdynamo]

A mixed bag for Dravid.
Best results are in Bilaterals T20s but flopped in multi team tournaments.
ODIs results are bang average.
Tests are decent at home but bad away.


Tests:

Won 1-0 vs NZ (home)
Lost 1-2 vs SA (away)
Won 2-0 vs SL (home)
Lost 1-0 vs Eng (away)
Won 2-0 vs BD (away)
Won 2-1 vs AUS (home)
Lost WTC Final 21-23

Won 1-0 vs WI (away)

Drew 1-1 vs SA (away)

Won 4-1 vs Eng (home)

 

ODIs:

Lost 0-3 vs SA (away)
Won 3-0 vs WI( home)
Won 2-1 vs Eng (away)

Won 3-0 vs WI (away)
Won 2-1 vs SA (home)
Lost 0-1 vs NZ (away)
Lost 1-2 vs BD (away)
Won 3-0 vs SL (home)
Won 3-0 vs NZ (home)
Lost 1-2 vs Aus (home)
Won 2-1 vs WI (away)

Won Asia CUP ( away)

Lost world cup final (home)

Won 2-1 vs SA (away)

T20s:

Won 3-0 vs NZ (home)
Won 3-0 vs SL(home)
Won 3-0 vs WI(home)
Drew 2-2 vs SA (home)
Won 2-1 vs Eng (away)
Won 4-1 vs WI (away)
Lost Asia Cup T20
Won 2-1 vs Aus (home)
Won 2-1 vs SA (home)
Lost T20 World cup ( SF)
Won 1-0 vs NZ (away)
Won 2-1 vs SL (home)
Won 2-1 vs NZ (home)

Lost 2-3 vs WI (away)

Won 2-0 vs IRL (away)

Won 4-1 vs Aus ( home)

Drew 1-1 vs SA ( away)
Won 3-0 vs Afg ( home)

 

Edited March 29 by deepdynamo

[Frustrated]

Dravid's performance?  Aak Thuuuu..

[Number]

[vvvslaxman]

It is a case of "inspite of Dravid" rather than "Because of Dravid".

[Pollack]

Performance in tests is "inspite of" since we are quality Test team for few years now.

 

Nobody plays bilateral ODIs and t20s seriously except India. Just look at the teams that Australia, England, SA, NZ field in bilaterals and number of "experiments" they carry out. However all these teams play with different intensity in WC, CT etc.

 

 

[deepdynamo]

3 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Performance in tests is "inspite of" since we are quality Test team for few years now.

 

Nobody plays bilateral ODIs and t20s seriously except India. Just look at the teams that Australia, England, SA, NZ field in bilaterals and number of "experiments" they carry out. However all these teams play with different intensity in WC, CT etc.

 

 

 

To be honest, we also didn't play bilaterals with our full team.

[Pollack]

7 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

 

To be honest, we also didn't play bilaterals with our full team.

Only since November 2021. Dravid likes to experiment a lot but his choice of player and reading of conditions has been atrocious.

In any case my point was neither SENA teams nor their fans take bilateral LOI seriously. So they have lesser motivation than India to win every damn bilateral series. So while India wins against them in bilaterals we are humiliated in multinational tournaments.

Edited December 25, 2022 by Pollack

[Frustrated]

4 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

 

To be honest, we also didn't play bilaterals with our full team.

Actually, our t20 and odi teams are so messed up right now that, it's hard to find out which is our main team and which is B team.    

[Kerberos]

Rahul has done a great job as evident from the stats.

 

He has tried youngsters. Ishan, Hooda, Samson, Bishnoi, Gill, Gaikwad and many more.

 

He prefers accuracy over speed because we don't have quality true speedsters. They are either expensive or one trick pony. What happened to Avesh? Didn't he get a chance? Umran has zero control. Speed is not everything. Dravid knows Indian pace bowlers strength is accuracy and swin not pace. He is much smarter than wheelchair experts.

 

[Vijy]

9 hours ago, Pollack said:

Only since November 2021. Dravid likes to experiment a lot but his choice of player and reading of conditions has been atrocious.

In any case my point was neither SENA teams nor their fans take bilateral LOI seriously. So they have lesser motivation than India to win every damn bilateral series. So while India wins against them in bilaterals we are humiliated in multinational tournaments.

his experimentation landed with egg on the face in IPL too. tends to be over-smart and uber-defensive

[speedracer]

8 hours ago, Kerberos said:

Rahul has done a great job as evident from the stats.

 

He has tried youngsters. Ishan, Hooda, Samson, Bishnoi, Gill, Gaikwad and many more.

 

He prefers accuracy over speed because we don't have quality true speedsters. They are either expensive or one trick pony. What happened to Avesh? Didn't he get a chance? Umran has zero control. Speed is not everything. Dravid knows Indian pace bowlers strength is accuracy and swin not pace. He is much smarter than wheelchair experts.

 

No he is not. He is one of the most meekest and dumbest coaches around. 

India has plenty of fast bowling talents. India happen to choose slow options due to some infatuation with fake swingers/ trundlers. 

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, speedracer said:

No he is not. He is one of the most meekest and dumbest coaches around. 

India has plenty of fast bowling talents. India happen to choose slow options due to some infatuation with fake swingers/ trundlers. 

there are around 10 players who can touch peak speeds of 145+ in FC/internationals.

[cricketfan28]

wrong metric, he is sticking to the process which mean he is doing well.

[deepdynamo]

First Post updated after home series vs SL, NZ and Aus.

T20: The best record in Dravid Era except for the two most important trophies - WT20 and Asia Cup. Won everything else.
ODI: Bang Average and the fact that the team lost against SA(away), NZ(away), BD(away) and Aus(Home) in the world cup year is worrisome.
Test: Moderate success with team reaching WTC Final in his era. ( But thanks to Ravi Shastri for securing 2-1 lead against Eng away)

[Lord]

While I agree he's not done well, why does Rohit go scot free?

 

Rohit's the main man and has been terrible. Even yesterday he allowed Aus to score 270 from 203-7. No coach can fix such issues.

[express bowling]

Dravid-Rohit combo consists of 2 defensive individuals who want to play it ultra safe with their player choice, team combination and even in the manner they use aggressive players. 

 

And none of them seem that bright either. 

 

They will end up losing most big trophies and away series as they are never looking to dominate the opposition.

 

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by express bowling

[Insidious]

Atrocious. One of the worst coach ever.  And that Rathod. How is he continuing with the role of batting coach, when Bharat Arun did not got any extension as bowling coach is beyond me. Is he having photos of Jay shah in compromising position? Only God knows.

[tapandrun]

Ind results and showing is as if the team is under rebuilding mode and they are trying to bring new core to the team, but they are getting these kind of result with mostly a full side and having top seasoned player.

 

Captain and coach taking time off in between series or not going to series at all, this is hight of un-accountability. There is no direction to the team , they have no plan.

This team in lagging behind in all the 3 department, plus fitness of the players are questionable. TM seems to have no ownership and they are just giving bogus explanations.

 

They clearly want a left-handers in the middle-order which is evident when they send Axar at #4 , then why not to bring a proper lefthander batter.

Batting is unsure against both pace and Spin and that too when Starc was the only regular pacer in Aus side.

 

Had Jadeja and KL not have played rescue job in 1st ODIs , they would have lost 3-0.  Similar story in test as well in last 2 years It has been rescue job by lower middle order.

 

Looks like this TM is not getting the modern day cricket, Rohit's attempt to play aggressive in PP has reduced him to a cameo kind of batter only good for 30 at max on a good day. Sky has been unable to find his feet in ODIs and the only reason they are trying to get him into T20 side is because Ind batting lack power, intent and impetus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Need4Speed]

Dravid has brought Mhambrey Rathor and idunno fielding coach..and see how much level we have become poorer

[AKane]

 

On 12/25/2022 at 1:20 AM, deepdynamo said:

Lost T20 World cup ( SF)

 

Can we qualify this above  complimentary stat with the 10 wicket defeat in 16 odd overs in SF? ( He then remarked we should have scored 180 instead of 170... remember?)

 

Then the worst defeat in a ODI in Indian history - again 10 wicket defeat in 11 odd overs at home?

Edited March 24, 2023 by AKane