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Posted
1 hour ago, diga said:

I am tagging @Vicks57 

as i keep saying, Trump excellent for India on geopolitical front in south asia.

 

Keeps deep state in check. Looks the other way when India needs to do something. 

 

Time is now to act in BD and flush out people in Manipur.

 

 

On economic front will cost India upto 1% in GDP growth. But might actually be beneficial for exports in long run if multi nationals move here.

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Bro, if we get FTA and 0 tarrifs with China, we dont climb the value-chain ladder for another 50 years.

Especially if we also give them a CPEC and put tarrifs on USA as solidarity for China.

That is KO-ing Indian economy for next 50 years flat.


That is why i said, the price of that, is find where Naqgu township is on the map and make it the border marker for India-China border.

 

 

 

No.

 

China is trying to kneecap Indian manufacturing

An attempt to head off its only future rival.

 

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/china-is-trying-to-kneecap-indian

Posted
3 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

as i keep saying, Trump excellent for India on geopolitical front in south asia.

 

 

Everybody says that except the TN folks and anti-nationals

 

Not every move Trump makes will be good or beneficial to India.. on the  balance, if we have it more than 50% , its good enough for me

Posted
20 hours ago, G_B_ said:

I was also reading somewhere that Trump will cut a deal with Modi to reduce the barriers from 26% to 15%. This is a move to force the export oriented East Asian nations to the table with the threat of manufacturing moving to India to take advantage of lower costs. India I suspect will do a deal to buy American oil products to reduce the deficit.

 

If your a multinational, India with 15% and less geopolitical issues even if unreliable power supply , not the best infra (this is improving) looks much better than China with 110% barriers and also a huge geopolitcal issue.

 

At the same time the local Chinese overcapacity will need to find a home. I suspect EU and India etc dont want goods dumped on their shores. They will also raise barriers in one big Game Theory behaviour. 

 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/apple-looks-to-manufacture-more-iphones-in-india-as-trumps-tariffs-hit-china-harder-report/articleshow/120120817.cms

Posted
3 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Literally the first sentence of the article.

 

"Under our Dear Leader President Trump, the United States is hard at work destroying its place in the world economy. But in the rest of the world, globalization is still proceeding apace. "

 

If you want USA hegemony to reduce and Americans to commit suicide, Donald J Trump is perfect,:phehe::cheer:

its an opinion blog..  of all the things about India-China , you choose to focus on that

Posted
17 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Literally the first sentence of the article.

 

"Under our Dear Leader President Trump, the United States is hard at work destroying its place in the world economy. But in the rest of the world, globalization is still proceeding apace. "

 

If you want USA hegemony to reduce and Americans to commit suicide, Donald J Trump is perfect,:phehe::cheer:

 

well.... :D

 

 

the truth is that the chinese peg to the usd needed to be attacked. Best India be a bystander in all of this.

 

 

Posted
Just now, G_B_ said:

 

well.... :D

 

 

the truth is that the chinese peg to the usd needed to be attacked. Best India be a bystander in all of this.

 

 

India is best as by-stander in this, because unless this war goes kinetic, USA isnt gonna win vs China.

I dont know much about economics, but i do know a lot about history. And the world's #1 exporting super-power has never ever lost an economic conflict with a lesser one.

2000 years ago India smashed Rome economically. Because india was 35% of world's GDP and Rome was 20%. Rome even banned Indians from Roman Empire ( only people to ever get banned from Roman empire). Didnt do jack ****.

The brits got their asses handed to them in economic warfare with Qing China in 1700s-1850s period, because Qing China was the export behemoth of this period and Brits only won after the economic war turned into kinetic war.

 

So judging from history,america aint gonna win this, as america is a puny export power compared to China. Best case scenario - USA dies and China is cripped, which means we can smash beedieland & pakistan and take Tibet.

 

Posted

How China’s record trade surplus helped spark Trump’s tariff war

 

https://ig.ft.com/china-trade-surplus/

 

An excellent politically neutral article by the FT based on actual data. What a lot of these Economist types dont really understand is that:

 

(a) The chinese trade surplus has been crushingly high based on maintaining a peg to the USD. This is anything but free market.

(b) Trump has gone about things in a very uncalibrated way. But the core message is correct and needs to be acknowledged. Just like his argument on defence spending by NATO members, while people dont like him , his message is correct.

(c) China is slowly moving up the value added ladder with clear gains in Electic vehicles etc. Only a matter of time they would conquer the missing bits like aviation etc.

 

Trump tariffs are hap-hazzard and will cause short term pain. But they are good for the long term gain of the USA. The problem is that Americans needs to see beyond the first few years of pain to see what happens in the long run. Its clear China is looking to replace the USA.

 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

India is best as by-stander in this, because unless this war goes kinetic, USA isnt gonna win vs China.

I dont know much about economics, but i do know a lot about history. And the world's #1 exporting super-power has never ever lost an economic conflict with a lesser one.

2000 years ago India smashed Rome economically. Because india was 35% of world's GDP and Rome was 20%. Rome even banned Indians from Roman Empire ( only people to ever get banned from Roman empire). Didnt do jack ****.

The brits got their asses handed to them in economic warfare with Qing China in 1700s-1850s period, because Qing China was the export behemoth of this period and Brits only won after the economic war turned into kinetic war.

 

So judging from history,america aint gonna win this, as america is a puny export power compared to China. Best case scenario - USA dies and China is cripped, which means we can smash beedieland & pakistan and take Tibet.

 

 

 

In the immediate aftermath of this, it makes sense for India to further up the barriers vs China. India was wise not to join that pacific trade alliance or something. Goods would have flowed into India from likes of Thailand and Vietnam. Congress was really dumb to sign an FTA with ASEAN Korea and Japan. A mistake we are still paying a price for.

 

Vietnam said they will levy 0% tariff on the USA. USA told them to their face that they are cheaters given they dont stop reexports from China. They are now in a catch 22. Wedged between USA that does not trust them and China who now will flood their market to compensate the USA market. Biggest impact of this spat between USA and China will be ASEAN.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, diga said:

 

VoLTE ,AI center in Ambani center is quite state of the art... do visit if you get a chance

 

??

 

There is no such thing as VoLTE center, AI center. At least not in RCP campus.

Posted
56 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Jio was the only positive new domain that the Reliance Group entered. 

 

Their JioHotStar buffers like crazy. They have reduced the quality of Hotstar which wasn't even great before the acquisition. Good for Supermarkets and cheap chinese **** like Shein. Even Jio Cinema was trash.

 

I know they have built a large data centre in Jamnagar. Probably a good thing.

 

 

There is no proper R&D. It's all backward integration acquisition of tech firms, copy their technology and market it as their own.

Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

How China’s record trade surplus helped spark Trump’s tariff war

 

https://ig.ft.com/china-trade-surplus/

 

An excellent politically neutral article by the FT based on actual data. What a lot of these Economist types dont really understand is that:

 

(a) The chinese trade surplus has been crushingly high based on maintaining a peg to the USD. This is anything but free market.

(b) Trump has gone about things in a very uncalibrated way. But the core message is correct and needs to be acknowledged. Just like his argument on defence spending by NATO members, while people dont like him , his message is correct.

(c) China is slowly moving up the value added ladder with clear gains in Electic vehicles etc. Only a matter of time they would conquer the missing bits like aviation etc.

 

Trump tariffs are hap-hazzard and will cause short term pain. But they are good for the long term gain of the USA. The problem is that Americans needs to see beyond the first few years of pain to see what happens in the long run. Its clear China is looking to replace the USA.

 

They are very close to conquering aviation field. They make complete arsenal of military aircrafts - fixed and rotor wings, they also make passenger jets- which is awaiting pr campaign to compete with airbus-boeing. 

 

The one thing I am jealous of Pakistani, is they are going to chinese space station. 

Chinese space station is an entire generation ahead of ISS in technology. It's literally comparing a 1980s car to a 2025 car. 

I wish we could avail the apex space station technology in human history 

 

Edited by Muloghonto
Posted
1 minute ago, Muloghonto said:

They are very close to conquering aviation field. They make complete arsenal of military aircrafts - fixed and rotor wings, they also make passenger jets- which is awaiting pr campaign to compete with airbus-boeing. 

 

The one thing I am jealous of Pakistani, is they are going to chinese space station. 

Chinese space station is an entire generation ahead of ISS in technology. It's literally comparing a 1980s car to a 2025 car. 

I wish we could avail the apex space station technology in human history 

 

Pakistan are going to get the benefits and disadvantages of being a client state

Posted
3 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

There is no proper R&D. It's all backward integration acquisition of tech firms, copy their technology and market it as their own.

Ananad Mahindra syndrome...

 

 

Posted (edited)

@G_B_,

China replacing usa is a foregone conclusion. Unless their demographic collapse is orders of magnitude worse than they are letting on, China is gonna grind usa to the dust. 

 

It's got export dominance and it's nuclear meaning usa can't opium war their way out of this one.  

 

 

 

Usa is also in a catch-22: to make any headway into getting manufacturing back, it has to weaken the dollar to compete in world market. The moment us dollar weakens, people dump it as reserve currency and worst case scenario us debt becomes real and usa sinks like Greece. 

 

 

 

But if it doesn't weaken dollar, then usd also collapses under mounting pressure of skyrocketing debt that usa cannot get out of coz it doesn't export enough. 

 

 

 

So I disagree with you. I think it's short term pain, mid term gain and long term the end for us economy. 

 

As the saying goes- the bill comes due one day...ALWAYS. 

 

US can try all the tricks they want but 40 trillion debt is gonna become the dildo they didn't want but have to take. Question is, which orifice it shall go in to cause pain ( depreciating dollar collapse or debt pressure dollar collapse)  

Edited by Muloghonto
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, randomGuy said:

Trump is a friend of india. I hope GoI helps him during this tough phase.

He is definitely more aware about India, Indians and respectfull. In nineties when US population and its businesses had no clue where India was on the map, He had

Trump Taj Mahal, a casino hotel in Atlantic City. Only reason I know it is because I saw it in some old movie as background in some scene.

 

BTW, I dont think a US president needs anyones help. Several years back, I commented, US is in position to take on whole world economically and militarily assuming there is no UN charter of war oprations and still win the war if they dont use nukes. Position has been worse but hasnt deteririotaed too far.

Edited by mishra
Posted
1 hour ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Literally the first sentence of the article.

 

"Under our Dear Leader President Trump, the United States is hard at work destroying its place in the world economy. But in the rest of the world, globalization is still proceeding apace. "

 

If you want USA hegemony to reduce and Americans to commit suicide, Donald J Trump is perfect,:phehe::cheer:

 

@New guy @IndianRenegade @vvvslaxman @zen

The goal posts have already moved from - he will be good for economy, he will be good for Indians, to now, his plan is to destroy world order which is good for us. 

 

Trump cult doesn't even have an original thought of their own, they keep parroting whatever they hear on social media to defend trump.

 

They still believe they will someone gain from this.

 

Funniest thing is, they don't understand that when world order is destroyed and people start suffering even kings and dictators are lynched on the street.

 

These guys are nobodies, where do they think they and their family will hide? When Americans suffer and are on the street brown people doing well will be some of their first targets. So even if they are not lying about gaining from the crisis, do you think the suffering Americans will not burn their houses down and beat their heads in? 

 

Nobody gains in an anarchy except the fascist in charge. Even your wealth doesn't save you. 

Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, New guy said:

The goal posts have already moved from - he will be good for economy, he will be good for Indians, to now, his plan is to destroy world order which is good for us. 

 

Trump cult doesn't even have an original thought of their own, they keep parroting whatever they hear on social media to defend trump.

 

They still believe they will someone gain from this.

 

Funniest thing is, they don't understand that when world order is destroyed and people start suffering even kings and dictators are lynched on the street.

 

These guys are nobodies, where do they think they and their family will hide? When Americans suffer and are on the street brown people doing well will be some of their first targets. So even if they are not lying about gaining from the crisis, do you think the suffering Americans will not burn their houses down and beat their heads in? 

 

Nobody gains in an anarchy except the fascist in charge. Even your wealth doesn't save you. 

We don't care about kings and dictators lynched on steet. We ain't kings and dictators. 

We are the 2nd rung who will compete for power  vacuum.  So world order collapse == good for all 2nd rung players like us, russia, Brazil etc. 

 

We don't need to hide. We have plenty of money and most of us are rich enough to * off usa if it gets too hot to handle. 

 

Like I already don't live there more than 3 weeks a year, I go, I vote, I return to America's hat. 

 

2nd movers always win in anarchy as 2nd moves are the prime movers once the prime movers are dead and they get to compete for power vacuum of high table. 

 

We are not here to maintain libbu raper world order of child raper ideology sorry. 

We will unite with jihadis and christoids if necessary to take down libbuism and then once it's dead, square off against each other for high table chairs. 

 

Cope and seethe but this is reality and you have progressively gone crazier like your inbred dehati Tamil friend, for about six months now that I have been predicting things about Trump and being right about it. 

 

But then again when you are affiliated with one of the biggest Hindu orgs that do uthak baithak with all presidential candidates, you tend to know a few things ahead of the rest of the world. 

 

 

But your libbu tears are delicious, please send more for my thirst. 

 

You simpletons can't wrap your head around a simple fact. 

 

If we Hindus are like Usa in ww2, Muslims are ussr and christoids are China but you libbus are the nazis Germans.

 

We are more than happy collaborating to kill the nazi german libbu and once dead, fight the cold war. 

Cope and seethe but this is how the power structures are shaping up in social alliances in the Western world. 

 

It's already muslim + christoid vs libbu. Now Jews and Hindus are shifting to this side and once the tipping point is reached, it's game over for libbus because we will have the Raw muscle of the Muslims, the brazen-ness of Muslims, brains of Hindus and money of the Jews.  And that will start the endgame forced checkmate sequence against liberalism. 

Edited by Muloghonto
Posted
22 minutes ago, mishra said:

He is definitely more aware about India, Indians and respectfull. In nineties when US population and its businesses had no clue where India was on the map, He had

Trump Taj Mahal, a casino hotel in Atlantic City. Only reason I know it is because I saw it in some old movie as background in some scene.

 

BTW, I dont think a US president needs anyones help. Several years back, I commented, US is in position to take on whole world economically and militarily assuming there is no UN charter of war oprations and still win the war if they dont use nukes. Position has been worse but hasnt deteririotaed too far.

Usa isnnt gonna win the economic war buddy. If it does, it will be first time in recorded history the lesser exporter power won against the exporter #1 in a trade war. 

As a person educated in history and one who also is regular in casinos, I never gamble on " first time ever in human history" bets. 

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