Pak tour of SA discussion thread | 3 T20I, 3 ODI & 2 Tests | 12 Dec - 3 Jan

[vvvslaxman]

21 minutes ago, rageaddict said:

Pakistan big favorites for match against India at CT and overall Tournament Winners..

Rohit's track record of "losing once in a while is okay" is giving me jitters. He has no winning mentality. Just a loser mentality.

[New guy]

22 minutes ago, rageaddict said:

Pakistan big favorites for match against India at CT and overall Tournament Winners..

I think their batting lack the hitting power for UAE pitches, the true bounce of SA pitches and the thin air allows their hit to travel but on UAE pitches most of their shots will be caught on the boundary 

 

All their batsman in form are timing batsman which doesn't work in UAE where you need to force the ball on slow, low pitches. 

 

In bowling, Naseems bowling might work on the low pitches but Afridi and rauf will be carted around. 

Edited December 22, 2024 by New guy

[the don]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Only reason Pakistan is in this chase becaues entire SA line up is not in form except Klassen. 

What does that even mean?

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, the don said:

What does that even mean?

Their team is full of out of form players bar Klassen. 

[the don]

Pakistan becomes the first team to white wash Southafrica in their den and win three ODI series.

Take a bow Sir Saim “ Gary Sobers Ayub” 

[the don]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

Their team is full of out of form players bar Klassen. 

Its not an out of form side. They probably arent very good atm. Pakistan tho have beaten both Aus and SA away back to back.

[Norman]

33 minutes ago, rageaddict said:

Pakistan big favorites for match against India at CT and overall Tournament Winners..

 

Lmao.. deja vu back to August 2023. 

 

All similar talk before pawkis ended up getting mauled twice and saved by rain once..

[tapandrun]

Good back2Back ODI series wins for Pak first Aus and now SA.

Saim has been carrying his from from Aus series to here in 9 odis already have 3 tons. 

 

Never seen SA field this bad, their fielding has been going down, in batting looks like every1 is out of form, everytime it looks like Jansen is coming 1 spot up, how and why markram still is the team ...?? 

  

Edited December 23, 2024 by tapandrun

[deathmonger]

SA were missing Maharaj, Nortje, Coetzee. Those are 30 overs.

 

Rabada bowled well.

 

I wouldn't look too much into thee results.

 

Come CT time, it will be a repeat of last WC/AC.

[Need4Speed]

3 hours ago, rageaddict said:

Pakistan big favorites for match against India at CT and overall Tournament Winners..

If Boom plays we win..else we lose

[Need4Speed]

2 hours ago, the don said:

Its not an out of form side. They probably arent very good atm. Pakistan tho have beaten both Aus and SA away back to back.

Tgey are struggling against spin in middle overs..even against Bishnoi and Chakravarthy they struggled in T20s..

 

[Need4Speed]

3 hours ago, rageaddict said:

Pakistan big favorites for match against India at CT and overall Tournament Winners..

Pak is covering all of their bases..only thing is did they peak early..

As pf now I feel Saim Ayub is giving them a good platform in consistent basis..so there is reliance on him..hopefully that doesnt hurt in cruicial matches

[First class]

40 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

Pak is covering all of their bases..only thing is did they peak early..

As pf now I feel Saim Ayub is giving them a good platform in consistent basis..so there is reliance on him..hopefully that doesnt hurt in cruicial matches

India is still clear favorite to win Feb 23 match but with some improvement in Pakistan team and emergence of Saim , the match will not be decided before the match and Pakistan's chances have increased from 20 % to about 30-35% .  

 

India should rest Bumrah for this match for him to be fresh for more important matches later in the tournament , 

On a serious notes, after passing Rabada , Hazelwood , Cummins and Starc, test , Saims biggest test will be against Bumrah 

Edited December 23, 2024 by First class

[Need4Speed]

6 minutes ago, First class said:

India is still clear favorite to win Feb 23 match but with some improvement in Pakistan team and emergence of Saim , the match will not be decided before the match and Pakistan's chances have increased from 20 % to about 30-35% .  

If Bumrah is not playing then its anybody’s match..

However with UAE’s dew toss matters..

I dont know about the others followers..I have been liking Saim’s bowling as well from long time..he has good control for a batter with the bowling variety he has..

A very very handy 6th bowler..

 

[tapandrun]

13 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

If Bumrah is not playing then its anybody’s match..

However with UAE’s dew toss matters..

I dont know about the others followers..I have been liking Saim’s bowling as well from long time..he has good control for a batter with the bowling variety he has..

A very very handy 6th bowler..

 

 

Any1 playing high risk game can not maintain their place with just batting, they need to have secondary skill too.

Posted this before too, playing today's modern day game needs multi-skilled game just to keep their place. Batters needs to play at high SR which makes them inconsistent and to keep their place they need other skill too. In past as well batters with high SR were multi-skilled players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 23, 2024 by tapandrun

[nitinbwj]

I have no hopes from the loser fat fukk Motu captaining. He is woefully out of form,out of ideas and out of brain cells. He shouldnt even be near any team atm. Do we play any ODI series in run up to the Champions Trophy or BCCI has once again fuked up the scheduling. I would like to see Iyer in the ODI setup instead of that NRI.

Edited December 23, 2024 by nitinbwj

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

If Bumrah is not playing then its anybody’s match..

However with UAE’s dew toss matters..

I dont know about the others followers..I have been liking Saim’s bowling as well from long time..he has good control for a batter with the bowling variety he has..

A very very handy 6th bowler..

 

With Rohit Kohli Jadeja in the side without Bumrah it becomes very tough even against BD or Afg

India for some time now haven't played Odis,it will anyway take time

Rohit and Kohli are in that phase where they can't even bat on placid tracks

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, nitinbwj said:

I have no hopes from the loser fat fukk Motu captaining. He is woefully out of form,out of ideas and out of brain cells. He shouldnt even be near any team atm. Do we play any ODI series in run up to the Champions Trophy or BCCI has once again fuked up the scheduling. I would like to see Iyer in the ODI setup instead of that NRI.

Vs Eng,

England coming to India for LoIs  just before CT

Edited December 23, 2024 by Suhaan

[vvvslaxman]

6 hours ago, the don said:

Its not an out of form side. They probably arent very good atm. Pakistan tho have beaten both Aus and SA away back to back.

It is. Post QDK they are not the same. They lost to all the Asian sides.

[Nikhil_cric]

7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

But look at ther line up. Markram, Bavuma, RVD .. full of retirement home. This mirrors our line up. Rohit, Kohli.

Markram is nowhere near retirement. Bavuma and RVD need to be replaced ASAP.