Trundler shootout: Rank these medium pace bowlers on talent.

[maniac]

My ranking based on the best trundlers in world cricket right now in terms of skill and talent 

Mukesh Kumar

Boland

Abbas

Muzarbani

 

tempted to add Roach but he has become a trundler now but has experience.

 

please feel free to add others.

[Ultimate_Game]

Boland

Abbas

Mukesh

Muzarbani

 

Muzarbani and Mukesh are pretty close together and Muzarbani could very well be bumped up to 3.

[Lone Wolf]

Boland bowled quicker than Siraj I think in Sydney and Adelaide.

 

Dude was bowling in 136-138ks in his 6-7 th over in the spell.

Guy is phitt

[maniac]

Muzarbani is underrated because he plays for Zimbabwe but he is a gun bowler. I feel he would have been as talented as Arshdeep with a better infrastructure and management.

i have seen him always remove top class batsmen with the new ball. 

[maniac]

7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Boland bowled quicker than Siraj I think in Sydney and Adelaide.

 

Dude was bowling in 136-138ks in his 6-7 th over in the spell.

Guy is phitt

132-135 speed me Mukki ne SA ko SA me hila dala :)

Edited January 9 by maniac

[Majestic]

8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Boland bowled quicker than Siraj I think in Sydney and Adelaide.

 

Dude was bowling in 136-138ks in his 6-7 th over in the spell.

Guy is phitt

Don’t be shy in speaking reality. Boland was quicker than Bumrah.

[vvvslaxman]

Boland will feel humiliated after running rounds against Lohli. There is no way in hell Mukesh can do on any pitch like Boland did to us.

[gattaca]

7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Boland will feel humiliated after running rounds against Lohli. There is no way in hell Mukesh can do on any pitch like Boland did to us.

Stuart Binny did 6/3 against Bangladesh. Military medium shouldn’t be discarded entirely. Australia rolled green pitches looks like they learnt it from the English on how to beat us but we didn’t take swing bowlers to Australia 

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Stuart Binny did 6/3 against Bangladesh. Military medium shouldn’t be discarded entirely. Australia rolled green pitches looks like they learnt it from the English on how to beat us but we didn’t take swing bowlers to Australia 

I mean Boland outbowled, Starc and CUmmins.

[R!TTER]

5 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Australia rolled green pitches looks like they learnt it from the English on how to beat us but we didn’t take swing bowlers to Australia 

You're telling me no one from the reserves or A team couldn't "swing" it either? And no swing didn't lose us the series!

[Lord]

15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Boland will feel humiliated after running rounds against Lohli. There is no way in hell Mukesh can do on any pitch like Boland did to us.

 

Mukesh will also get Kohli on these pitches. Any decent trundler would lol

[maniac]

9 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Stuart Binny did 6/3 against Bangladesh. Military medium shouldn’t be discarded entirely. Australia rolled green pitches looks like they learnt it from the English on how to beat us but we didn’t take swing bowlers to Australia 

Mukesh is faster than Binny and bowls 130-140k. He is not military medium.

 

I feel  we are under estimating Mukesh. People think I am trolling but they said the same when I was bigging up Ro and Ishu. There is something here. Assuming he is 30, he has 7-8 yrs of cricket left in him and he is one of those bowlers who will have the same pace in his late 30s as well because of his smooth action.

[R!TTER]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

I was bigging up Ro and Ishu.

You do realize he is statistically the worst bowler to have played 100 tests, right?

[vvvslaxman]

Boland did well not because of just seam movement. He did that over and over  and over and over consistently. Not even Bumrah could match that pitch map. That was some robotic stuff. He is bloody 35. He has enough experience to do that stuff. Had prasidh or siraj done that over and over they might have done well as well. 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You do realize he is statistically the worst bowler to have played 100 tests, right?

He has 300 test wickets, won matches in SENA with his bowling  and won us a CT 2013. That’s all matters to me.

[R!TTER]

22 minutes ago, maniac said:

He has 300 test wickets, won matches in SENA with his bowling  and won us a CT 2013. That’s all matters to me.

Which matches? He has probably 1 MoM performance (Lords 2014) outside India in all his career, CT was a team effort though he did do fairly well at the end.

[deathmonger]

32 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You do realize he is statistically the worst bowler to have played 100 tests, right?

Ishant 2nd dig (post 2014) is a great bowler. We discarded him too soon.

 

Was part of the 2018-19 attack that won in Aus, played a great role in some home games (Bang vs Aus 2017). Was great at Lord's 2021 too.

 

Lord's 2021 and Wanderer's 2018 - India 4 man pace attack with all 4 being good.

[R!TTER]

8 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

Ishant 2nd dig (post 2014) is a great bowler. We discarded him too soon.

No he wasn't, I've posted this about too many times already so you can check some of the stats from way back. His best year by far was 2018 when we had spicy pitches in every away tour + DRS - that was the biggest difference in his numbers!

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or South Africa

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2014 and 31 Dec 2016

Type of bowler (by style) pace bowler

Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 40

Ordered by bowling average (ascending)

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
I Sharma	2014-2016	12	21	439.0	95	1366	42	7/74	9/162	32.52	3.11	62.7	3	0
Mohammed Shami	2014-2016	14	27	500.3	79	1749	48	5/112	6/116	36.43	3.49	62.5	1	0

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or South Africa

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2017 and 31 Dec 2019

Type of bowler (by style) pace bowler

Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 40

Ordered by bowling average (ascending)

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
JJ Bumrah	2018-2019	10	20	402.4	95	1073	49	6/33	9/86	21.89	2.66	49.3	3	0
Mohammed Shami	2018-2019	15	29	467.4	90	1489	60	6/56	6/74	24.81	3.18	46.7	3	0
I Sharma	2017-2019	15	29	439.0	87	1183	42	5/51	6/97	28.16	2.69	62.7	1	0

Edited January 9 by R!TTER

[singhvivek141]

48 minutes ago, maniac said:

Mukesh is faster than Binny and bowls 130-140k. He is not military medium.

 

I feel  we are under estimating Mukesh. People think I am trolling but they said the same when I was bigging up Ro and Ishu. There is something here. Assuming he is 30, he has 7-8 yrs of cricket left in him and he is one of those bowlers who will have the same pace in his late 30s as well because of his smooth action.

Depends on format bro.

He has touched 140 few times in T20's, but Bhuvi, Harshal, Arshdeep all have done that.

 

Akashdeep has bowled quite a lot of deliveries at 140-144k in IPL, struggling to touch even 139k in Australia.

 

Mukesh didn't touch 140 in Tests...at max around 136 and was mostly operating in 127-132 kph vs England.

 

On topic, For me it's

Boland > Muzzarabani > Mukesh > Abbas

 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Boland did well not because of just seam movement. He did that over and over  and over and over consistently. Not even Bumrah could match that pitch map. That was some robotic stuff. He is bloody 35. He has enough experience to do that stuff. Had prasidh or siraj done that over and over they might have done well as well. 

Man has unusual ability to land the ball on seam 10/10 times.

His pace is consistent as well unlike Siraj or heck Boom even in his 3rd spell.

I never thought he would be that skiddy too.