G_B_ Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 I also think china might swoop in to pay these journos who are simply guns for hire. Around 1000 individuals (through orgs they contrilled) got usaid in india. Keep a close eye on them. Mariyam and raki05 1 1
Mariyam Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 USA is not a friendly nation. Period. They have armed Pakistan for almost 70 years against us and sent warships when we split Pakistan into two. They have refused to extradite Anderson ( of Bhopal Gas Tragedy) and Headley ( 26/11). Even refused to have us access to these people or have independent third party arbitration. The US patents office granted patents to a private company to call the aromatic rice it grew as Basmati and the firm went on to market it as Basmati. And this was specific product got the much needed $ to the Indian exchequer. If it weren't geopolitical compulsions that help us in standing up to China, we should keep minimum contact with the US government while we maintain a friendly out reach to the people. BacktoCricaddict, Vicks57 and ravishingravi 1 2
G_B_ Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 86 journalist shown by vijay patel Vast majority write for the wire or scroll raki05 and coffee_rules 1 1
Muloghonto Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 2 hours ago, Vicks57 said: USAID is just an arm of CIA to do their deed. Look up what USAID did to Haitian agriculture sector. France and USA are responsible for the current situation in Haiti. Reduction of funds to USAID or complete scrap is good for all global south countries. So why the heck are you heckling indians who voted for the guy who killed this terrorist funding us organization ?? You should be encouraging us to vote Trump for rest of our lives as he directly benefitted India and even if Maga whites Lynch us, it's not your problem but Yankee citizen problem ?? Explain. coffee_rules, mishra and raki05 3
coffee_rules Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 30 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: So why the heck are you heckling indians who voted for the guy who killed this terrorist funding us organization ?? You should be encouraging us to vote Trump for rest of our lives as he directly benefitted India and even if Maga whites Lynch us, it's not your problem but Yankee citizen problem ?? Explain. Voting for Trump is a vote for racists who will come to your frontyard and kill your kids. raki05 1
cowboysfan Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 interesting that we are mad at USAID than the country USA which is actually responsible for destabilizing our country and many many more. Vicks57 1
Muloghonto Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Voting for Trump is a vote for racists who will come to your frontyard and kill your kids. Sure. But we are Americans. Why the hell does an Indian citizen care more about American citizens than what happens to India ?! If someone told me that doing X in france benefits all Canadians but gets all the French people enslaved, I would support it in 2 seconds... coffee_rules 1
mishra Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 5 hours ago, Mariyam said: USA is not a friendly nation. Period. They have armed Pakistan for almost 70 years against us and sent warships when we split Pakistan into two. They have refused to extradite Anderson ( of Bhopal Gas Tragedy) and Headley ( 26/11). Even refused to have us access to these people or have independent third party arbitration. The US patents office granted patents to a private company to call the aromatic rice it grew as Basmati and the firm went on to market it as Basmati. And this was specific product got the much needed $ to the Indian exchequer. If it weren't geopolitical compulsions that help us in standing up to China, we should keep minimum contact with the US government while we maintain a friendly out reach to the people. TBH Since world war II, Everyone who is on US good books have benefited so much so that their relative Global weight and potential has increased several times then what they actually deserve. So, We have a opportunity where Trump is rewriting The US Good Book. We should not let any stone unturned to convince Trump that a US+1 policy is future where +1 being India. Most Indians can’t even comprehend the benefits of being +1. For starters +1 used to be EU raki05 1
Muloghonto Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 12 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: One good thing does not alleviate a whole load of bad things. Every aid from a foreign country is a form of lobby. Same goes for India. We send lots of aid to Other Asian and African countries. What kind of moronic logic is this. Uncle, stay off the weed. But what bad things that Trump has done that affects India and indians in India vs the good he has done ?? Tell us how Trump has hurt India more than helped it.
cowboysfan Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 8 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: USA will topple a govt just to increase the market cap of American companies. That's how evil they are. All the terrorist organisations in Middle East were initially funded by US. Eventually, they went rogue. they just toppled the Sheikh Hasina because she didnt allow US base in one of their islands,this has led to hindus being killed in Bangladesh by crazy Islamists. Vicks57 1
Muloghonto Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 16 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: What's the use explaining to a Zombie like you? This is just in the last 24 hours. Trump just announced a 25 percent tarriff on steel and aluminium from all countries. Indian steel producers are going to get hit hard. https://m.economictimes.com/industry/indl-goods/svs/steel/indian-steel-producers-to-face-challenges-in-exports-once-us-hikes-tariffs-moodys/articleshow/118115287.cms Explain why someone taxing your goods extra is equal to or worse than someone funding terrorists in your country.
Muloghonto Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 1 hour ago, Vicks57 said: Uncle, keep up with the current news. You are lagging behind. I don't have the patience to explain you everything. I asked for explanation as to why charging u more for your product is same or worse than trying to kill u via terrorists. Explain.
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 (edited) On 2/8/2025 at 10:18 AM, gattaca said: USAID funded over 110k to LET. over 750k to sonam kapoor’s husband gets them all eyes on rafah. Indian funding increased just before elections and decreases later. While India received over $150 million from USAID in 2024 (until December), the agency's allocation of $175.7 million for 2023 was its highest since the 1980s. The annual external assistance from USAID hit its highest level at $228.2 million during 2022. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/usaid-grantee-in-pakistan-associated-with-designated-terrorist-organisations-alleges-congressman/amp_articleshow/97363004.cms https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/economy/over-a-fifth-of-usaid-s-2-9-billion-assistance-to-india-since-2001-came-in-last-four-years-12930184.html/amp In the ToI link, there is nothing that connects USAID funds to Mumbai attacks. Here's what the article says (and I paraphrase): USAID funds HHRD, which held events that also received funds from FIF, which is LeT's charitable wing. HHRD also co-sponsored some events jointly with FIF. How does one extrapolate from there to USAID funded LeT to carry out Mumbai attacks? In the moneycontrol link, there is absolutely nothing stating that terrorist organizations received money. It just summarizes the total amount of money received by India from USAID how that has increased since CoViD. If one is to make these allegations, at least pick better evidence to back it up. It is almost like we are assuming no one will read the links. Edited February 11, 2025 by BacktoCricaddict Mariyam 1
mishra Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 (edited) 5 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Only a moron like you would think aligning with the US is a good thing. USA is on the downward spiral and it will continue to be on this trajectory. Trump is the last guy before USA slump truly begins. Future is with China and other Asian countries. EU countries will ramp up the trade relations with USA since they cannot be trusted with orange racist at the office. Orange clown and his clowns are funding nazi party in Germany. @Mariyam is spot on. If you want your country to be safe, have limited relations with US. USA is the kind of evil country which will destabilize a country just to create a new market for its American Companies. I think you are blindrd by hate to USA. Israel is rich powerful wealthy nation without any resources because its in US camp while iran is struggler despite being cultural , resource rich and in both Chinese and Russian camp. Open the map of world and you will find example after example similar to above. Trump said, He will make a riviera in Gaza, And everyone thinks he is upto something. On other side. Xi hasn’t got balls to make statement to oppose a outrageous statement as above. Thats where China is placed now. So how can it help India. Read the statement from Nehuru after Chinese attacked India. We should ensure that someday Xis son repeats Nehurus statement about India PS: i intentionally gave just example and Not explanation why Matematically u always win iby being in US camp, cos u need to do some research Edited February 11, 2025 by mishra
Muloghonto Posted February 11, 2025 Posted February 11, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, mishra said: I think you are blindrd by hate to USA. Israel is rich powerful wealthy nation without any resources because its in US camp while iran is struggler despite being cultural , resource rich and in both Chinese and Russian camp. Open the map of world and you will find example after example similar to above. Trump said, He will make a riviera in Gaza, And everyone thinks he is upto something. On other side. Xi hasn’t got balls to make statement to oppose a outrageous statement as above. Thats where China is placed now. So how can it help India. Read the statement from Nehuru after Chinese attacked India. We should ensure that someday Xis son repeats Nehurus statement about India PS: i intentionally gave just example and Not explanation why Matematically u always win iby being in US camp, cos u need to do some research You don't get to be US camp if you have demographics and resources to be a peer of usa potentially. Hence why russia wasn't allowed into Nato. To be in team America, you must never posess the above qualities. So we can't be team usa. Since we can't be friends, we shall be rivals. And India has far greater potential to * usa from the inside than the other way round. Nations permanently banned from being in team usa: russia, China,india, Indonesia & Brazil. Why ? Coz all these nations have demographics or resources to be equal or better than usa one day potentially. As in not per capita BS but cumulative gdp. So why the hell should we cooperate with usa as an ally and not a competitor ?? Usa is the new Britain of the world - what Britain was to Europe, usa is to the world : effectively an island nation that controls its borders with peerless navy and picks a fight with everyone and allies with everyone over time to Perdue it's ultimate goal : prevent rise of dominant power in Eurasia. We know the game, is why we are in BRICS. Edited February 12, 2025 by Muloghonto Mariyam 1
gattaca Posted February 12, 2025 Author Posted February 12, 2025 8 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: In the ToI link, there is nothing that connects USAID funds to Mumbai attacks. Here's what the article says (and I paraphrase): USAID funds HHRD, which held events that also received funds from FIF, which is LeT's charitable wing. HHRD also co-sponsored some events jointly with FIF. How does one extrapolate from there to USAID funded LeT to carry out Mumbai attacks? In the moneycontrol link, there is absolutely nothing stating that terrorist organizations received money. It just summarizes the total amount of money received by India from USAID how that has increased since CoViD. If one is to make these allegations, at least pick better evidence to back it up. It is almost like we are assuming no one will read the links. The link is why is USAID giving money to LET. They gave it on 2019 and in 2023 as well. Even four congressmen were against this funding but they still went ahead. We don’t even know how much money was provided to LET by USAID before 2008. https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/world/story/donald-trump-usaid-funded-pakistan-ngo-link-to-terrorist-organisation-lashkar-e-taiba-let-falahs-e-insaniat-2675197-2025-02-05 diga 1
gattaca Posted February 12, 2025 Author Posted February 12, 2025 8 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: In the ToI link, there is nothing that connects USAID funds to Mumbai attacks. Here's what the article says (and I paraphrase): USAID funds HHRD, which held events that also received funds from FIF, which is LeT's charitable wing. HHRD also co-sponsored some events jointly with FIF. How does one extrapolate from there to USAID funded LeT to carry out Mumbai attacks? In the moneycontrol link, there is absolutely nothing stating that terrorist organizations received money. It just summarizes the total amount of money received by India from USAID how that has increased since CoViD. If one is to make these allegations, at least pick better evidence to back it up. It is almost like we are assuming no one will read the links. The link is why is USAID giving money to LET. They gave it on 2019 and in 2023 as well. Even four congressmen were against this funding but they still went ahead. We don’t even know how much money was provided to LET by USAID before 2008. https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/world/story/donald-trump-usaid-funded-pakistan-ngo-link-to-terrorist-organisation-lashkar-e-taiba-let-falahs-e-insaniat-2675197-2025-02-05
mishra Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 5 hours ago, Muloghonto said: You don't get to be US camp if you have demographics and resources to be a peer of usa potentially. Hence why russia wasn't allowed into Nato. To be in team America, you must never posess the above qualities. So we can't be team usa. Since we can't be friends, we shall be rivals. And India has far greater potential to * usa from the inside than the other way round. Nations permanently banned from being in team usa: russia, China,india, Indonesia & Brazil. Why ? Coz all these nations have demographics or resources to be equal or better than usa one day potentially. As in not per capita BS but cumulative gdp. So why the hell should we cooperate with usa as an ally and not a competitor ?? Usa is the new Britain of the world - what Britain was to Europe, usa is to the world : effectively an island nation that controls its borders with peerless navy and picks a fight with everyone and allies with everyone over time to Perdue it's ultimate goal : prevent rise of dominant power in Eurasia. We know the game, is why we are in BRICS. Think India is a resource consumer nation. India is not US ally but its enemies ( china and pak) at some point have been very close to US. Right now, india US have aligned risk perceptions. Trump is saying it is ready to rethink EUs role in global order. QuAD is potential new NATO. So Modi and Jaishankar must not do Nehuru Vicks57 1
mishra Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 10 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: You are delusional. Have you got a counter example to prove what examples i gave is incorrect. Find different type of example like Huwei TikTok being declared as snooping tool and being told that sell urself to US or perish.
Muloghonto Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 7 hours ago, mishra said: Think India is a resource consumer nation. India is not US ally but its enemies ( china and pak) at some point have been very close to US. Right now, india US have aligned risk perceptions. Trump is saying it is ready to rethink EUs role in global order. QuAD is potential new NATO. So Modi and Jaishankar must not do Nehuru Why would we want nato with usa where our weapons and defence are infiltrated by the US ? NO NATO nation has independent foreign policy. They are literally arm twisted into US military adventures and while usa can just simply print more money to fund these wars, it's vassals get left holding the bag.
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