Mohd Yunus invites China and says we are your gateway to enter India's 7 sister states that are landlocked.

[rangeelaraja]

 

This mischievous crook needs to be taught a very very harsh lesson.  I am extremely upset with the Modi govt for continuing to bail out these ingrates. 

 

Completely stop the supply of food and electricity to them till they grovel, behave themselves and show gratitude and loyalty.  Sorry for my extremely harsh language but this has been an extremely ungrateful nation. 

 

@Muloghonto  @AuxiliA @randomGuy  @Gollum  @coffee_rules

 

 

Edited April 1 by rangeelaraja

[Vicks57]

We know Modi is useless. This is despite his "retard friend" in USA.

 

Nothing is going to happen.

 

Bangladesh Army Chief's life has been in danger for some time. There have been two attempts I believe.

 

Indira Gandhi is the biggest patriot India has ever seen. Sure, she did bad stuff like emergency and encouraged Sikh separatism because of her actions. But she was brave and she always knew USA is evil.

 

Edited March 31 by Vicks57

[randomGuy]

He should be punished , not just removed, for being party to heinous crimes against Hindus. His deeds arguably call for capital punishment for him.

 

But in this statement I think he's talking regarding logistics, abt exporting Chinese stuff to NE india via BD sea ports.

[Muloghonto]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

This mischievous crook needs to be taught a very very harsh lesson.  I am extremely upset with the Modi govt for continuing to bail out these ingrates. 

 

Completely stop the supply of food and electricity to them till they grovel, behave themselves and show gratitude and loyalty.  Sorry for my extremely harsh language but this has been an extremely ungrateful nation. 

 

@Muloghonto  @AuxiliA @randomGuy  @Gollum  @coffee_rules

 

 

 

Modi/India cannot do anything as of yet and therefore, we are waiting and watching.
There is a simple reality of India-Bangladesh  that Indians forget but Bangladeshis know and exploit : India- Banglandesh can be easily put into this : We have two options : throw a punch and flat out kill him or do nothing. The end. Nothing inbetween. We lack callibrated response levers inside bangldesh but hold decisive advantage in every single power projection metric to the scale that we can put Desert storm to shame if we wish to in Bangladesh.

The entire reason we havent done it yet, is because unlike Unkil, we arent half a world away from Iraq, we sit next to Bangladeshs and we dont have a secure border with them like we do with pakistan and if we do militry action there, we cannot contain Bangladesh refugee flood. Hence we do nothing.

 

In this, i cant blame  the Congoons in the past for enjoying a 3 decade+ period of peace with Beedeeland and yet failing to grow finely callibrated levers in bangladesh to affect domestic politics.

PS: Incase someone says our resources and trade with them are levers, no not really- they are very limited levers because as amrikka is showing, trade is both ways equation and its always a question of 'hurt your own to hurt the enemy more' which is always a limited lever. Yes, we can cut off certain subsidies towards Beedies but it wont produce the desired result - it wont matter enough to them to change course.

IMO, India should sit tight, do nothing & replace the west bengal govt with a patriotic one who will secure the border. Once that is done, its time to game over bangladesh. Take Rangpur and Chittagong and flood the country by opening farakka. The end.  Bangladeshs need to return to original Bangladesh lifestyle that existed there : houses on stilts and eating more mosquito than rice for dinner. enjoy.

 

 

Edited March 31 by Muloghonto

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Vicks57 said:

We know Modi is useless. This is despite his "retard friend" in USA.

 

Nothing is going to happen.

 

Bangladesh Army Chief's life has been in danger for some time. There have been two attempts I believe.

 

Indira Gandhi is the biggest patriot India has ever seen. Sure, she did bad stuff like emergency and encouraged Sikh separatism because of her actions. But she was brave and she always knew USA is evil.

 

India should have kept Chittagong tract post 71.. it had substantial Hindu Population also would have opened North East to Bay of Bengal and South East Asia.

I get that it was unrealistic coz USA won't allow that at any cost.. but it would have solved a lot of our current connectivity issues with North East.

 

 

[Muloghonto]

3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

India should have kept Chittagong tract post 71.. it had substantial Hindu Population also would have opened North East to Bay of Bengal and South East Asia.

I get that it was unrealistic coz USA won't allow that at any cost.. but it would have solved a lot of our current connectivity issues with North East.

 

 

Technically no, it wouldnt have given north east access to the sea, since technically CHT doesnt have any coastline and never did. It would've brought the frontier to within 50km of the sea mostly but still not at sea.

 

Edited March 31 by Muloghonto

[coffee_rules]

I guess for some idiots  prefer Thiru MK Stalin to be the PM instead of useless Mudi.

 

This is all posturing from Anus. Erm, Yunus. His power is diminishing after Jan 20th, and there are rumors of another coup in Kangaldesh. He is holding onto his power base requesting some Chinese support. China wants Haseena back, Yunus is in a precarious position with no Deep State support of Biden.  Tapkayenge usko.

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

8 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Technically no, it wouldnt have given north east access to the sea, since technically CHT doesnt have any coastline and never did. It would've brought the frontier to within 50km of the sea mostly but still not at sea.

 

I didn't meant the city but entire tract including Cox Bazar..  Immense value 

 

[Muloghonto]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I didn't meant the city but entire tract including Cox Bazar..  Immense value 

 

Ok. I just wanted to clarify on terminologies. What you want is to eat part of Chittagong Division. CHT, aka Chittagong hill tracts is a sub-unit inside Chittagong Division. There is also chittagong district, which is different from both, etc.

Besides, making murgee gardan into gau-gardaan is more important imo .

 

Edited March 31 by Muloghonto

[Muloghonto]

13 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

I guess for some idiots  prefer Thiru MK Stalin to be the PM instead of useless Mudi.

 

This is all posturing from Anus. Erm, Yunus. His power is diminishing after Jan 20th, and there are rumors of another coup in Kangaldesh. He is holding onto his power base requesting some Chinese support. China wants Haseena back, Yunus is in a precarious position with no Deep State support of Biden.  Tapkayenge usko.

 

 

 

beedeeland military isnt stupid. They know that any real confrontation with India means Beedie military = narabali to kaali maa. The end.

The isloo-kangloo types dont realize this and dont understand this - that yes, go ahead, be dicks to hindus all u want, try to parade MUH BONGI PRIDE ISOOISM all you want and that is okay too. But the moment you angle for taking military pangaa with India, the beedie-land military itself will topple u, because the end game of that match always is 'bunch of beedie military men died to indian military men'. Aka, suicide. They aint stupid either. They perfectly understand how much of a suicide it is, because entire bangladesh has two bridges that cross the Podda AND Jomuna. Thats 2 missiles to trap beedie military from half 2/3ds of its own country in time of war, fyi. Their maachure-nonkas wont be able to ferry military across the podda or jomuna.

Bangladesh has a glass ceiling for now for how much anti-india it can get and the glass ceiling is its own military.

 

Edited March 31 by Muloghonto

[rangeelaraja]

57 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

 

Modi/India cannot do anything as of yet and therefore, we are waiting and watching.
There is a simple reality of India-Bangladesh  that Indians forget but Bangladeshis know and exploit : India- Banglandesh can be easily put into this : We have two options : throw a punch and flat out kill him or do nothing. The end. Nothing inbetween. We lack callibrated response levers inside bangldesh but hold decisive advantage in every single power projection metric to the scale that we can put Desert storm to shame if we wish to in Bangladesh.

The entire reason we havent done it yet, is because unlike Unkil, we arent half a world away from Iraq, we sit next to Bangladeshs and we dont have a secure border with them like we do with pakistan and if we do militry action there, we cannot contain Bangladesh refugee flood. Hence we do nothing.

 

In this, i cant blame  the Congoons in the past for enjoying a 3 decade+ period of peace with Beedeeland and yet failing to grow finely callibrated levers in bangladesh to affect domestic politics.

PS: Incase someone says our resources and trade with them are levers, no not really- they are very limited levers because as amrikka is showing, trade is both ways equation and its always a question of 'hurt your own to hurt the enemy more' which is always a limited lever. Yes, we can cut off certain subsidies towards Beedies but it wont produce the desired result - it wont matter enough to them to change course.

IMO, India should sit tight, do nothing & replace the west bengal govt with a patriotic one who will secure the border. Once that is done, its time to game over bangladesh. Take Rangpur and Chittagong and flood the country by opening farakka. The end.  Bangladeshs need to return to original Bangladesh lifestyle that existed there : houses on stilts and eating more mosquito than rice for dinner. enjoy.

 

 

 

 

What has prevented us from adopting a more pragmatic carrot-and-stick approach in our dealings with Bangladesh?

Frankly, what Younus said is both ironic and misguided—because, geographically and economically, it's Bangladesh that remains significantly dependent on India for essential access and resources.

The reality is, India has often been too soft in its regional diplomacy. Even smaller nations like the Maldives, Sri Lanka, and Nepal sometimes behave as though they can leverage external powers like China to counterbalance India.

What they fail to recognize is that, unlike China, India does not demand a pound of flesh in return for every favor extended.

[mishra]

I think this is lot complicated than what is in media.if  GOI is not in control than no one is in control. Too many variables tribes and interest. 
Bangladesh or China or both, we can screw them all as long as US hand isn’t there acting against us in the region 

Edited March 31 by mishra

[mishra]

Think it other way. Last year, when US intervened in Bangladesh, it was forced to intervene as it saw India can not manage the Chinese situation. Killing Hindus in Bangladesh was  Chinese way of putting pressure on India.

 

Modi has got some time under Trump but US will be back if Modi can’t kick out Chinks from Bangladesh.

 

[AuxiliA]

Until a week ago Yunus was begging to have a meeting with Modi at Bimstec summit and now he does this. 

 

Nothing much to look into it. Yunus is getting irrelevant internally (is anyways irrelevant outside) and he's only playing to his local anti-India galleries with his stupid statements. He might not see the end of this year. 

 

Deterioration of India-BD relations is actually a huge blessing in disguise for our internal security. Until Hasina was at helm we were overlooking the huge illegal immigration problem and other border smuggling issues. Now we are atleast doing something about it. A lot of crackdown is happening now.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Heard Defence expert Prafull Bakshi also saying .. India should occupy Bangladesh's Chicken neck the 25km long Feni District strip between Tripura and BD.

It completely cuts off Chittagong with rest of the BD and enlarge Tripura & no more land locked North East

[rangeelaraja]

47 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

Until a week ago Yunus was begging to have a meeting with Modi at Bimstec summit and now he does this. 

 

Nothing much to look into it. Yunus is getting irrelevant internally (is anyways irrelevant outside) and he's only playing to his local anti-India galleries with his stupid statements. He might not see the end of this year. 

 

Deterioration of India-BD relations is actually a huge blessing in disguise for our internal security. Until Hasina was at helm we were overlooking the huge illegal immigration problem and other border smuggling issues. Now we are atleast doing something about it. A lot of crackdown is happening now.

 

 

Why  T  F  are we trading with them ? Should we not bring them to their knees, totally stop the supply of essentials - let them source from China at 5X the price. 

 

We have been too soft with them. 

 

[mishra]

30 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Why  T  F  are we trading with them ? Should we not bring them to their knees, totally stop the supply of essentials - let them source from China at 5X the price. 

 

We have been too soft with them. 

 

There is direct trade route between China and Bangladesh via Myanmar ruled by various tribes. Think of them as Trbes in KPK belt of Pakistan. All these tribes have to come into understanding that they will either join India or NOT. They can not be just pro India because anyday, someone else will buy their loyality. Remember. China has bigger Guns and Massive wallet compared to us.

[rangeelaraja]

11 minutes ago, mishra said:

There is direct trade route between China and Bangladesh via Myanmar ruled by various tribes. Think of them as Trbes in KPK belt of Pakistan. All these tribes have to come into understanding that they will either join India or NOT. They can not be just pro India because anyday, someone else will buy their loyality. Remember.

China has bigger Guns and Massive wallet compared to us.

 

The massive wallet days are over...China's own economy is reeling with infrastructure saturation, slow down in export growths .

 

Plus they have had massive sunk costs in  BRI.  None of the BRI projects has positive ROI..

 

Why do you think Muizzu ...returned empty handed from China and then came to India on a long trip with a begging bowl and his tail in-between his legs.

 

China has much bigger problems at present than entertain an irrelevant parasite country like Kangladesh to be a nuisance for us ...

Edited April 1 by rangeelaraja

[AuxiliA]

50 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Why  T  F  are we trading with them ? Should we not bring them to their knees, totally stop the supply of essentials - let them source from China at 5X the price. 

 

We have been too soft with them. 

 

 

We have already squeezed the supply of raw materials to and imports from their flagship textile industry. As a result of that they have suffered great economic losses. 

 

But can't stop supply of essentials as we need to have some some leverage on them. BD isn't yet a completely gone case like Pak, there are still plenty of Hindus and some pro-India muslims there. 

 

What we should be doing is industrial level mass deportations of illegal BDs, brutal crackdown on fake identity networks and complete border fencing. A lot of work on that is being done right now but need to ramp up the pace considering the scale of the illegal problem. 

 

 

[Muloghonto]

15 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

What has prevented us from adopting a more pragmatic carrot-and-stick approach in our dealings with Bangladesh?

Frankly, what Younus said is both ironic and misguided—because, geographically and economically, it's Bangladesh that remains significantly dependent on India for essential access and resources.

The reality is, India has often been too soft in its regional diplomacy. Even smaller nations like the Maldives, Sri Lanka, and Nepal sometimes behave as though they can leverage external powers like China to counterbalance India.

What they fail to recognize is that, unlike China, India does not demand a pound of flesh in return for every favor extended.

I don't know what prevented us or what prevents us. 

I am observing that we don't have said levers in Bangladesh to apply callibrated pressure. 

Reality is, India isnt a very very new player in the art of realpolitik and its barely 25 years old at that, as Indian realpolitik started the day India became an aatmi taakat.

It is true, we let Maldives and Sri Lanka and all jump too much, but that is also because India hasnt had a consistent and long term foreign policy and Indian foreign policy is a consequence of who rules the country as to its domestic audience. Whereas if you notice, big players like usa, france, etc., foreign policy remains more or less constant regardless of who comes to power.

There is also another reputation Indian diplomats have across the world that you also see the likes of Macron exploit: apparently Indian diplomats are easily placated with pomp and easily get their noses outta joint if not given proper decorum,we actually have one of the more 'dikhaawaa' reputation in diplomat circles- Jaishankar is such a shock to the system largely due to this, because he is polar opposite of dikhawaa and he comes with a total U turn from the image and behaviour of half of his diplo corps.

 

What India needs, is presence of India-centric think-tanks in the media, the same we see in western media, who will provide a continuity architecture for foreign policy realpolitik.

Indian realpolitik is still very raw and naive from what i observe, despite huge gains being made in this aspect during the Ukraine war. India has at least matured enough ( in the eyes of the world) to do what is best for India rather than playing the BS game of 'doing what is right and getting claps in world phorum'. Now the game begins in terms of *knowing* what is best for you and doing that, as the great powers do.

To me, this is the real acid test of India being at the high table, regardless of whether it gets an UNSC seat or not.

 

Edited April 1 by Muloghonto