ravishingravi Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 Seems it's not Kirana. It's Murid that caused the fire.
Lone Wolf Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 If not for private IMINT analysts.. our narrative would be down in the dumps like 2019 (still.is btw) IAF still keeping quiet about all these High value hits. About time India has its own ISPR wing.. 2019 se bhi kuch nahi sikha
MechEng Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 45 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: If not for private IMINT analysts.. our narrative would be down in the dumps like 2019 (still.is btw) IAF still keeping quiet about all these High value hits. About time India has its own ISPR wing.. 2019 se bhi kuch nahi sikha It's good in a way. Info warfare only to a moderate extent is good. We can never beat Pak in info warfare since there are good number of people who still believe that '71 war was never won by India, their mastery over brainwashing can only be matched by the US and North Korea, no good for Indians to get their hands dirty here and better focus on strengths.
MechEng Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 My observations on the optics post Op Sindoor: 1. The Gandhian image of pacifism is now temporarily on hold, the global media now realizes that they cannot play democracy/secularism card to gaslight India from taking a kinetic action when needed. 2. PAF will be baying for revenge. Indian missiles reaching air bases at Murid, Nur Khan and Bholari without any IAF plane flying within Pak is something they never anticipated. We should be careful and not bring our guard down too soon, because Indo-Pak conflict has indirectly entered the global stage as the reputation of military equipment from US/China/Turkiye will be at stake going forward. 3. India needs to be watchful, the enemy will now go to any depths for taking revenge. raki05, coffee_rules and G_B_ 1 2
Lone Wolf Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 18 minutes ago, MechEng said: in info warfare since there are good number of people who still believe that '71 war was never won by India It's not about that, narrative setting is global... Like fake narrative of IAF losing 5-6 jets propelled by US Chinese and Pakistani psy ops in foreign media and outlets integrating it with social media platforms. Brainwashed P@ki awaam is a lost cause anyways and they don't matter
Lone Wolf Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 Only explanation to IAF downplaying its achievements is maybe coz of strict instructions of GoI.. so that Pak military can have some face saving in front of Jaahil awaam offering them off ramp and with some obvious Amreeki pressure.
MechEng Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 13 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: It's not about that, narrative setting is global... Like fake narrative of IAF losing 5-6 jets propelled by US Chinese and Pakistani psy ops in foreign media and outlets integrating it with social media platforms. Brainwashed P@ki awaam is a lost cause anyways and they don't matter It's a waste of time. Americans still don't accept that they lost the Vietnam war.
diga Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 1 minute ago, MechEng said: It's a waste of time. Americans still don't accept that they lost the Vietnam war. Not exactly true... Check Jimmy Carters "crisis of confidence " speech ... he does acknowledge indirectly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u57csARfcOw
jf1gp_1 Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Only explanation to IAF downplaying its achievements is maybe coz of strict instructions of GoI.. so that Pak military can have some face saving in front of Jaahil awaam offering them off ramp and with some obvious Amreeki pressure. PM has been vicious for the past few days. This is purely my interpretation, I think India has received some intel that pak is planning something hence PM is directly addressing pak public/ officials , behave or .......
MechEng Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, diga said: Not exactly true... Check Jimmy Carters "crisis of confidence " speech ... he does acknowledge indirectly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u57csARfcOw Still narrative building efforts may not be fruitful as long it doesn't align with US interests. India for the time being is decades behind US and China in global influence, better off focusing on what we're good at.
Lone Wolf Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 1 hour ago, MechEng said: It's a waste of time. Americans still don't accept that they lost the Vietnam war. World believes it and that's what matters
Lone Wolf Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said: PM has been vicious for the past few days. This is purely my interpretation, I think India has received some intel that pak is planning something hence PM is directly addressing pak public/ officials , behave or ....... P@kis would be stupid to try something right now. They need at least a year minimum with western assistance to repair and regroup all that damage done to PAF maybe even more. 24-48 hrs more.. PAF would have been thrown back to stone age. Sure some ballistic missiles might have struck us but it was worth the cost. Edited May 28, 2025 by Lone Wolf
MechEng Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 17 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: World believes it and that's what matters India needs to develop on multiple fronts to be able to craft a narrative that would get the world to acknowledge. Right now India doesn't enjoy the same pedigree as US or China in global influence and add to it the social media campaign of how dirty India is etc. harms the image. Still a long way to go. Pak will win most narratives because they are regular buyers from USA and China.
Lone Wolf Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 This could be the same place where Turkish Drone operators were KIA
EnterTheVoid Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 Arnab gets two Pakistanis on his show and gets them to fight each other. Absolute comedy coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, EnterTheVoid said: Arnab gets two Pakistanis on his show and gets them to fight each other. Absolute comedy She’s threatening you, Abdul Maam are you on substance? Edited May 28, 2025 by coffee_rules raki05 1
EnterTheVoid Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: She’s threatening you, Abdul Maam are you on substance? The clincher - Ma'am, what is the trending substance coffee_rules and raki05 2
jf1gp_1 Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: P@kis would be stupid to try something right now. They need at least a year minimum with western assistance to repair and regroup all that damage done to PAF maybe even more. 24-48 hrs more.. PAF would have been thrown back to stone age. Sure some ballistic missiles might have struck us but it was worth the cost. i agree. However if Pak thought like any sane country then they would have dismantled terror outfits decades ago. mishra 1
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