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mishra Grand Master

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28 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

They are baiting him to act stupid.. he would be smart to learn from India and go for precision strikes on critical Ukrainian military assets and infrastructure...  They have much superior Ballistic as well subsonic missile program..  

 

Russians military establishment has been pretty dumb from the beginning in this conflict.

Currently Orange man's three main targets are Russia Iran and India.   I think Iran would be stupid to fall eventually.

 

 

Russia is not India. It has ability to knock out Europe unless US comes in defence of Of Europe. What happens if Putin hits Poland or Germany . Will NATO risk a war with Russia knowing it will become nuclear.

IndianRenegade Grand Master

IndianRenegade

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

 

So, it is kind of clear that India used Air to Surface missiles on May 7th and might have lost  a few jets because they didn't engage with PAF and got shot down, even though IAF didn't cross the IB. On May 10th, we used surface to surface missiles as a tactical change to take out their mililary targets.

Nope, we still used air to surface missiles on May 10th too. Have been confirmed by DGISPR, India CDS & also by visual evidence of missile debris, the tactical change might have been change in stand off range & conducting partial SEAD. 

mishra Grand Master

mishra

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 Lateral thinking :cantstop: what are odds of American Radar failing to protect Skardu attack and then Chinese Radars retaliated by failing to protect Sargodha? :phehe:
 

 Chinese didn’t say anything after Skardu and waited till Sargodha episode was over. Food for thought for Pakistani Awaam. What happens when you make deal with two Devils fighting for supremacy 

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coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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1 hour ago, IndianRenegade said:

Nope, we still used air to surface missiles on May 10th too. Have been confirmed by DGISPR, India CDS & also by visual evidence of missile debris, the tactical change might have been change in stand off range & conducting partial SEAD. 

Begs the question why didn't use SEAD on the first day? Some stupid non-engagement policy, naybe

IndianRenegade Grand Master

IndianRenegade

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Begs the question why didn't use SEAD on the first day? Some stupid non-engagement policy, naybe

I think that was pretty clear IAF was not authorized to take out military targets on May 7th. But what is rather confusing is what happened on subsequent nights when IAF struck PAF bases, If IAF able to strike secure PAF from stand off range w/o being in PAF BVR range, why couldn't IAF do that on May 7th, the targets propbaby had no AD cover? 

 

Either IAF made an incorrect assumption on PAF range, & wanted to maximize our ablility to strike by getting closer, Or PAF wasn't in air or stayed back significatly either due to awareness of changed ROE or loss of their AWACS. We might need to wait some years or decades until these tactics become irreleavnt so someone can write a book & spill the beans on what actually happened.

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MechEng Veteran

MechEng

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7 hours ago, IndianRenegade said:

I think that was pretty clear IAF was not authorized to take out military targets on May 7th. But what is rather confusing is what happened on subsequent nights when IAF struck PAF bases, If IAF able to strike secure PAF from stand off range w/o being in PAF BVR range, why couldn't IAF do that on May 7th, the targets propbaby had no AD cover? 

 

Either IAF made an incorrect assumption on PAF range, & wanted to maximize our ablility to strike by getting closer, Or PAF wasn't in air or stayed back significatly either due to awareness of changed ROE or loss of their AWACS. We might need to wait some years or decades until these tactics become irreleavnt so someone can write a book & spill the beans on what actually happened.

 

Till May 9th-10th it was strictly about hitting terror camps and not engaging Pak military.

Only after Pak started targeting residential areas in the north at Amritsar and Delhi (where all attacks were intercepted) enabled IAF to escalate it to bombing air base runways and AWACS.

 

I always see attacking AWACS as a massive escalation since it implies that you're ready for a full scale war (which IAF was not intending on May 7th).

 

Edit: Specifically speaking, you're correct on the point that IAF went as close as possible to the targets to ensure that strike accuracy is as maximum as possible, but do note that you cannot hit airbases unless you significantly disable AWACS, and the reason for not targetting AWACS first has been mentioned above by me.

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12 hours ago, mishra said:

If you call Shahbaz  and Sarghoda a American airbase in Pakistan then  Skardu is Chinese airbase. We antagonised both in just a matter of 8 hours.

 

Point is, Pakistan is already sold and we were actually hitting US and Chinese assets simultaneously 

Skardu is effectively a Chinese airbase with Chinese forces. Now you see why we claimed little.

 

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/nearly-20-pakistan-air-force-infrastructure-knocked/?amp

 

I'm not sure about the strategic importance of Nur Khan air base to Americans but am aware of Bholari (Sukkur) housing some of their F16 assets. Yet these bases were mentioned and not Skardu during briefings.

 

What is so specific about Skardu air base that it doesn't get mentioned? Even if it's under let's say Chinese control.

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Lone Wolf Grand Master

Lone Wolf

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6 hours ago, MechEng said:

 

I'm not sure about the strategic importance of Nur Khan air base to Americans but am aware of Bholari (Sukkur) housing some of their F16 assets. Yet these bases were mentioned and not Skardu during briefings.

 

What is so specific about Skardu air base that it doesn't get mentioned? Even if it's under let's say Chinese control.

Heavy presence of PLAAF , proximity to Karakoram Highway usual CPEC routes etc.

BacktoCricaddict Grand Master

BacktoCricaddict

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18 hours ago, mishra said:

Russia is not India. It has ability to knock out Europe unless US comes in defence of Of Europe. What happens if Putin hits Poland or Germany . Will NATO risk a war with Russia knowing it will become nuclear.

And Ukraine is not Pakistan. They don't routinely train terrorists and send them across the border. False equivalence all the way around.

deathmonger Grand Master

deathmonger

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On 6/4/2025 at 11:43 PM, singhvivek141 said:

Yeah, but the demography is a challenge.

Sleeper cells are quite active there.

 

Naah Nepali origin people who are super pro India.

ravishingravi Grand Master

ravishingravi

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7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Prashant Dhawan is not reliable.   However I think Goal seems to be push Pakistan for a conflict through these projects and renegotiate IWT favouring India.

 

 

 

Agreed. Mc is IAS professor. Shows quality of babus we produce. 

Lone Wolf Grand Master

Lone Wolf

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18 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Agreed. Mc is IAS professor. Shows quality of babus we produce. 

Off topic but Babus don't move at all until our a$$es are on fire.  China arm twisting us on RE imports threatening our Entire automobile industry has led to this... I am convinced we need such adversaries to get sh*t done in this country.

 

 

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