ACC Men's Asia Cup Rising stars | 14th Nov - 23rd Nov | Discussion

[tapandrun]

26 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

this is the worst format to develop fast bowlers tbh, none of the basics will get developed. they might get ruined infact and pick up bad habits and struggle to maintain line-length. 

t20 is best format to identify but not to develop, the other part of the reality is Ind pacers takes alot more time to develop when compared to other team like Aus/SA/Eng/Pak/NZ.

 

So Ind needs to Identify the v.high potential bowlers early, then work out the plan to their progress so that they are ready for Intnl cricket.

 

Right now there is a need of special centralized program. 

[rkt.india]

18 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Yash is probably 5"8 not tall at all

5'10

[Lone Wolf]

Gurjapneet again playing over Yudhvir 

[Suhaan]

12 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Gurjapneet again playing over Yudhvir 

Tony Certified 

People Satisfied 

[vvvslaxman]

Nehal tuktukara. 

[nitinbwj]

It will be utter humiliation in the final again. Bowling is third class and idiot Joshi is also in experiment mood

 

Edited November 18, 2025 by nitinbwj

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, nitinbwj said:

It will be utter humiliation in the final again. Bowling is third class and idiot Joshi is also in experiment mood

 

Think trying out various players is okay, the whole purpose of such low end series are to identify the players. those who can transition to next level and those who are not there currently.

 

Vaibhav can be in the Ind side, showed he can play spin and pace has power game. Playing u19 or age group is not going to be beneficial his level right now is way above that.

 

Dhir looked good too, not sure how he plays vs high quility pace but can be tried in Ind side, bowls bit of off-spin and looks like a good fielder

 

Harsh also looked good, though not in any ipl team right now and may not have game for t20s but can bat under difficult conditions and bowls well should be a test prospect. Or may be try in ODIs see if he can fill up LA spin/allrounder place.

 

Gurjap -- not intnl qaulity not even IPL/A side, lacks pace, better batters would tonk him and do not think he can bowl outside PP. Is very limited now due to lack of pace.

The ball will not climb up that fast to effectly use the high release and bounce, can compare him to slow turning spinner, it may turn big but its slow so good batters can manage and play easily.

 

Nehal --Not a t20 batter, too many limitations and hence easy to contain and will get stuck in the crease- mounting pressure on himself and other batter too.

 

Suryash-- everything says he should be good t20 bowler, but he is not producing much results, he is quick in the air bowls at high speeds (needed in t20s) turns the ball nt much but enough. Has not been producing the desired results. Though he could be like Zampa wkt to wkt but at high speed. 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2025 by tapandrun

[Lone Wolf]

5 hours ago, nitinbwj said:

It will be utter humiliation in the final again. Bowling is third class and idiot Joshi is also in experiment mood

 

Lol they will lose to BD in Semi final first... They look extremely strong as well.

 

Apart from Naman Dhir and Vaibhav no one looks capable to bat at a high strike rate.

 

Pace attack is laughable.  Spin is still average but below par against BD and Pak.

 

 

They should have sent Prabhsimran here rather than sitting at home on bench for India A.

[Lone Wolf]

4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Vaibhav can be in the Ind side, showed he can play spin and pace has power game. Playing u19 or age group is not going to be beneficial his level right now is way above that.

 

Dhir looked good too, not sure how he plays vs high quility pace but can be tried in Ind side, bowls bit of off-spin and looks like a good fielder

 

Vaibhav cannot be in Indian side yet.  Boy has some work to do against pace.  I really like his play against spin.  Let him play FC cricket and more India A.

 

Naman Dhir looks effortless against both high Pace and spin. Talent is there.

MI should let him bat higher rather than wasting him at 6/7.   Man can bat at high strike rate with ease.

His bowling is bonus.

[Gollum]

5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol they will lose to BD in Semi final first... They look extremely strong as well.

 

Apart from Naman Dhir and Vaibhav no one looks capable to bat at a high strike rate.

 

Pace attack is laughable.  Spin is still average but below par against BD and Pak.

 

 

They should have sent Prabhsimran here rather than sitting at home on bench for India A.

We lost to Kanglus in football 

[vvvslaxman]

23 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol they will lose to BD in Semi final first... They look extremely strong as well.

 

Apart from Naman Dhir and Vaibhav no one looks capable to bat at a high strike rate.

 

Pace attack is laughable.  Spin is still average but below par against BD and Pak.

 

 

They should have sent Prabhsimran here rather than sitting at home on bench for India A.

This jitesh is our main team member too.

[tapandrun]

33 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Vaibhav cannot be in Indian side yet.  Boy has some work to do against pace.  I really like his play against spin.  Let him play FC cricket and more India A.

 

Naman Dhir looks effortless against both high Pace and spin. Talent is there.

MI should let him bat higher rather than wasting him at 6/7.   Man can bat at high strike rate with ease.

His bowling is bonus.

 

Historically Ind batter can and have only improved vs pace when they are in Ind side. There is no way any1 can improve vs pace  in FC.

The thing with Vaibhav is he has power game to crush the 135 kmph bowling and on surfaces that will not support the swing and seam in domestic he will score big runs and when he will get out cheaply due to being overly agressive they will try to change him and mess up with him.

 

There is hardly any domestic batter one can name and confidently say that these 5-10 batters are v.good against pace.

Ind batters only improved vs pace once IPL started as they are playing intnl and near intnl bowlers.

 

I have not seen Dhir vs high pace so bit doubtful. Have been mentioning that Ind should try him in T20is or Odis.

Think MI uses him as floater, when top order batter is not there he plays at the top and when there is no spot in the top he play down the order.

 

MI has 3-4 Ind capped players ,even tilak does not get to bat up the oder. so dhir has to make most out of where ever he bats.

 

Player like Sharuk, Dhir should be tried in Mo/lower mo in odis, that is more suited format to such player. They do not have absolute berserker game for t20is but they have power game for odis where they can pick and chose which ball/bowler to target.- Fakkar (Pak), Mitchle (NZ), S.Iyer(Ind) are such example.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2025 by tapandrun

[tapandrun]

45 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol they will lose to BD in Semi final first... They look extremely strong as well.

 

Apart from Naman Dhir and Vaibhav no one looks capable to bat at a high strike rate.

 

Pace attack is laughable.  Spin is still average but below par against BD and Pak.

 

 

They should have sent Prabhsimran here rather than sitting at home on bench for India A.

They are getting stuck in mo or in middle overs. Nehal keeps blocking and then plays some bad shot , no strike rotation no 4/6 through the gaps.

Ind needs to sort that issue out, may be ramandeep can bat at 4, he has game he can find gaps without taking much risk.

 

Ind in middle over gives the impression of wi of past where they can get stuck playing dots and nt rotating strike, hitting risk-free 4/6.

 

In bowling not sure who is even their wkt taker who that think is defensive bowler. Would have been okay if these bowler were good with the bat capable 4/6 hitters but they can not even bat.

 

Thats been the issue these RA/LA noting bowler does not even bat. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

We lost to Kanglus in football 

Yeah Indian football is on ventilator...   Kanglus have a better side atm comparatively 

[raki05]

Nehal wadhera is tuk tuk maaster even in ipl. They should have chossen good mo. Middle order is the problem. Suryavanshi has already toured aus and eng and scored centuries there. Opening till no. 3 is not the problem. Problem is Mo with jitesh, Nihal and harsh Dubey doing endless tuk tuking. Ideally Riyan should be part of this tour.

Edited November 19, 2025 by raki05

[tapandrun]

28 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Nehal wadhera is tuk tuk maaster even in ipl. They should have chossen good mo. Middle order is the problem. Suryavanshi has already toured aus and eng and scored centuries there. Opening till no. 3 is not the problem. Problem is Mo with jitesh, Nihal and hasej dibey doing endless tuk tuking. Ideally Riyan should be part of this tour.

Yes mo is the problem with their tuk-tuk. But no need to bring Parag, he has already played for Ind team is v.much in contention of wc team, he is playing Unofficial Odi vs SA-A. Think SA-A is better opposition to play and perform against.

 

emerging Asia-cup is low end tournament/even Aisa cup tournament is low end. 

 

Ind should send only development/experimental teams to emerging asia cup. like a C/D level team and make sure this c/d level team is able to win this tournament.

The player who could have played in mo are Himat (del), Kaushik (Up)

[vvvslaxman]

They are trying to sell this stupid tournament using suryavanshi's name lol

[nitinbwj]

4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol they will lose to BD in Semi final first... They look extremely strong as well.

 

Apart from Naman Dhir and Vaibhav no one looks capable to bat at a high strike rate.

 

Pace attack is laughable.  Spin is still average but below par against BD and Pak.

 

 

They should have sent Prabhsimran here rather than sitting at home on bench for India A.

Talking about Ind A - Zaleel is getting zalleled again 

[nitinbwj]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Yes mo is the problem with their tuk-tuk. But no need to bring Parag, he has already played for Ind team is v.much in contention of wc team, he is playing Unofficial Odi vs SA-A. Think SA-A is better opposition to play and perform against.

 

emerging Asia-cup is low end tournament/even Aisa cup tournament is low end. 

 

Ind should send only development/experimental teams to emerging asia cup. like a C/D level team and make sure this c/d level team is able to win this tournament.

The player who could have played in mo are Himat (del), Kaushik (Up)

 

Not winning anything without bowling even in these tournamensts. Our bowling resources are laughable. Not a single genuine pacer in sight.

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Talking about Ind A - Zaleel is getting zalleled again 

But this is Rajkot where bowlers generally travel though. Let us see how we bat here.