Insecurity under Gautam Gambhir's reign

[putrevus]

12 minutes ago, tweaker said:

We need Chandrakant Pandit types of coach ,who has grinded through Ranji teams.

This 60 year nonsense rule has to be changed, guys like Pandit and Arun both were very good coaches who did hard yards.
 

 

[express bowling]

Let's study the test team batting ....

 

1. Jaiswal .. sure pick 

2. Rahul .. sure pick 

3. Problem area with chopping and changing

4. Gill .. sure pick

5. Pant .. sure pick

6. Jadeja .. sure pick

7. Changes have happened 

8. Washington .. strongly backed.

 

 

3. Is the big problem area.

7. Changes have often happened due to the nature of the pitches. NKR has generally been backed.

 

 

No.3 has been badly handled. But I doubt only this will cause such poor performances.

 

Why are strongly backed sure starters like Jaiswal, Rahul, Pant, Jadeja failing so badly in this series  ??

 

Jurel has received backing too but still failing. So is NKR.

 

Washington is the only batter who is fighting. Gill's absence has been a big factor. 

Edited November 26, 2025 by express bowling

[MK55]

The core problem is the mediocrity. Talent and ability wise, these batters just haven’t got it in them. Stop blaming everyone else. 
Gambhir went wrong with team batting order, stuffing team with all rounders etc. But what about the others??? Seriously people need to start adjusting their expectations with this team. 

 

And the other problem is not developing good quality / high potential fast bowlers. We can’t just rely on Bumrah. And for this it’s not just Gambhir, it’s Dravid n Rohit who f started it by having absolutely no vision. And then we’ve got this slimy Agarkar who’s good for nothing. Gambhir obviously is also to blame here.

Edited November 26, 2025 by MK55

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, MK55 said:

The core problem is the mediocrity. Talent and ability wise, these batters just haven’t got it in them. Stop blaming everyone else. 
Gambhir went wrong with team batting order, stuffing team with all rounders etc. But what about the others??? Seriously people need to start adjusting their expectations with this team. 

 

And the other problem is not developing good quality / high potential fast bowlers. We can’t just rely on Bumrah. And for this it’s not just Gambhir, it’s Dravid n Rohit who f started it by having absolutely no vision. And then we’ve got this slimy Agarkar who’s good for nothing. Gambhir obviously is also to blame here.

 

Akashdeep, Harshit, Prasidh are decent backup pacers

[MK55]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Akashdeep, Harshit, Prasidh are decent backup pacers

 

Akashdeep is definitely not. Guy bowls well in the first test match of the series in which he plays and loses steam. Wicket keeper had to stand up the stumps in England of all places. This is what I mean by mediocrity. A nation like India should not be so tolerant to mediocrity

Harshit is discarded from tests after a bad test. Thats what u get for having morons as team selectors. And coach / captain is also to blame here. 
 

Prasidh is up n down. Guy bowls better in ipl but not in internationals. But anyways given the lack of options right now, I surely would persist with him for now. He has some bright spots. But u can’t teach these guys to make them bowl with high intensity in internationals. I don’t know what their problem is - may be just being timid? Anyways that motivation needs to be internal. 

[putrevus]

You remove Jurel , Sai and Reddy and bring in three batsmen, team becomes better instantly.

 

Play only one among Jadeja and Sundar bring in good spinner  team becomes unbeatable again,

 

It is not rocket science. You plays bozos like Jurel and Sai you get this fate.

[Lord]

11 minutes ago, MK55 said:

 

Akashdeep is definitely not. Guy bowls well in the first test match of the series in which he plays and loses steam. Wicket keeper had to stand up the stumps in England of all places. This is what I mean by mediocrity. A nation like India should not be so tolerant to mediocrity

Harshit is discarded from tests after a bad test. Thats what u get for having morons as team selectors. And coach / captain is also to blame here. 
 

Prasidh is up n down. Guy bowls better in ipl but not in internationals. But anyways given the lack of options right now, I surely would persist with him for now. He has some bright spots. But u can’t teach these guys to make them bowl with high intensity in internationals. I don’t know what their problem is - may be just being timid? Anyways that motivation needs to be internal. 

 

Akashdeep has done well in home Tests. Swings the ball both ways. Won us one Test in England.

 

Picking Kamboj over Harshit is GG's dumbest call.

 

Prasidh can get bounce on these pitches much like Jansen (not as much but still). Seen him do it FC

 

Siraj needs to play only in SENA

[MK55]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Akashdeep has done well in home Tests. Swings the ball both ways. Won us one Test in England.

 

Picking Kamboj over Harshit is GG's dumbest call.

 

Prasidh can get bounce on these pitches much like Jansen (not as much but still). Seen him do it FC

 

Siraj needs to play only in SENA

Akashdeep when he’s fresh and bowls 138-144, yeah off course he’s good and he delivers. People even start comparing him to Shami when that happens.

But like I said, he only does that the first test he plays in a series and then loses steam. That’s just unacceptable.

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, MK55 said:

Akashdeep when he’s fresh and bowls 138-144, yeah off course he’s good and he delivers. People even start comparing him to Shami when that happens.

But like I said, he only does that the first test he plays in a series and then loses steam. That’s just unacceptable.

Spot on Akashdeep has no endurance.

Edited November 26, 2025 by putrevus

[Lord]

10 minutes ago, MK55 said:

Akashdeep when he’s fresh and bowls 138-144, yeah off course he’s good and he delivers. People even start comparing him to Shami when that happens.

But like I said, he only does that the first test he plays in a series and then loses steam. That’s just unacceptable.

 

Then use him in 1st Test. Get Prasidh/Harshit after it

[MK55]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Then use him in 1st Test. Get Prasidh/Harshit after it

Was gonna say the same. Good strategy lol

[nitinbwj]

That's the word. I get the feeling no one wanta to play under this Mfer

[tweaker]

So there would be no change even after losing 2 home test series. 

 

No accountability. 

 

It would be business as usual.

 

Hope we loose the odi and T20 series also.

[Vk1]

On 11/23/2025 at 1:53 PM, tweaker said:

As Gill is the next Prince ,the players are selected such that they dont overshadow the Prince ,hence Sai,Paddikal, Reddy, Jurel ,Rahul are selected 

bang on.. this angle is not spoken about much.

[vvvslaxman]

Gambhir has turned the advantage of having bench strength into some sort of disadvantage.

[Insidious]

On 11/26/2025 at 12:17 PM, putrevus said:

Spot on Akashdeep has no endurance.

Akashdeep still a good choice in india, where you don't have to bowl much. 

[putrevus]

On 11/23/2025 at 3:23 AM, tweaker said:

As Gill is the next Prince ,the players are selected such that they dont overshadow the Prince ,hence Sai,Paddikal, Reddy, Jurel ,Rahul are selected 

I think that is bit too much.

 

The same sort of things were spoken whenever KL was dropped from Indian team in 2018-19.Kohli was jealous of his talent so Rahul was dropped. KL Rahul  had avg under 10 before he was dropped for Mayank Aggarwal.

 

 

Edited November 28, 2025 by putrevus

[tapandrun]

On 11/26/2025 at 12:51 AM, express bowling said:

Let's study the test team batting ....

 

1. Jaiswal .. sure pick 

2. Rahul .. sure pick 

3. Problem area with chopping and changing

4. Gill .. sure pick

5. Pant .. sure pick

6. Jadeja .. sure pick

7. Changes have happened 

8. Washington .. strongly backed.

 

 

3. Is the big problem area.

7. Changes have often happened due to the nature of the pitches. NKR has generally been backed.

 

 

No.3 has been badly handled. But I doubt only this will cause such poor performances.

 

Why are strongly backed sure starters like Jaiswal, Rahul, Pant, Jadeja failing so badly in this series  ??

 

Jurel has received backing too but still failing. So is NKR.

 

Washington is the only batter who is fighting. Gill's absence has been a big factor. 

 

 

Issue here is selection. The replacements that Ind is trying is based on the performance is IPL/t20is.

 

None of these new players have played any kind of Odi cricket and they are playing tests. when was the last time it happened that Ind picked a not so big scoring FC batter that would have performed in tests ??? The litmus test for Ind batters were always Odis then only they could have tried to test.

But there are no odis and what ever odis are being played these players are not getting a single game.

 

Looks at batters----

Nkr--played few t20is , think 0 Odis and then he is constant in tests  -- he wasnt even known before ipl

Jaiswal--Played t20is, 1 odi and then he is constant in tests

Devdutt - 1 Odi series, and he comes in to test side

Sai--Played 1 Odi series vs a B-level team and is playing tests -- he was also unknown in domestic before ipl

Jurel -- Played few T20is, 0 odis and is regular in test in terms of selection -- he is a wk 1st 

 

 

They do not have any kind of exp. of even Odis.

Previous player --pujara had FC 300s before getting into tests

Kolhi was established Odi player with multiple tons

rahane was doing good in fc 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2025 by tapandrun

[putrevus]

On 11/26/2025 at 1:55 AM, Lord said:

 

Then use him in 1st Test. Get Prasidh/Harshit after it

Both of them will lose test in one session.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Both of them will lose test in one session.

 

losing anyway with Siraj