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One thing about Pakistan is that they are sleeping on goldmine of content. 

 

Karachi criminal gangs, Ethnic and political violence in Karachi, Bhutto getting toppled by Zia Ul Haq, Afghan-Soviet war under Zia and then Zia getting blown up in his helicoper, Kargil planning and loss and then Musharraf vs Nawaz showdown, Double games during War on Terror era, Benazir getting assassinated with some involvement of Musharraf and Zardari. Mix all these with Al-Qaeda and Taliban angles to draw international audiences and you can create all spy thrillers, crime dramas, political thrillers which can be worldwide hits on Netflix.

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1 minute ago, Number said:

One thing about Pakistan is that they are sleeping on goldmine of content. 

 

Karachi criminal gangs, Ethnic and political violence in Karachi, Bhutto getting toppled by Zia Ul Haq, Afghan-Soviet war under Zia and then Zia getting blown up in his helicoper, Kargil planning and loss and then Musharraf vs Nawaz showdown, Double games during War on Terror era, Benazir getting assassinated with some involvement of Musharraf and Zardari. Mix all these with Al-Qaeda and Taliban angles to draw international audiences and you can create all spy thrillers, crime dramas, political thrillers which can be worldwide hits on Netflix.

It is said that Rahman Dakait was driving bhutto's car at the time of her assassination. 

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5 minutes ago, Number said:

One thing about Pakistan is that they are sleeping on goldmine of content. 

 

Karachi criminal gangs, Ethnic and political violence in Karachi, Bhutto getting toppled by Zia Ul Haq, Afghan-Soviet war under Zia and then Zia getting blown up in his helicoper, Kargil planning and loss and then Musharraf vs Nawaz showdown, Double games during War on Terror era, Benazir getting assassinated with some involvement of Musharraf and Zardari. Mix all these with Al-Qaeda and Taliban angles to draw international audiences and you can create all spy thrillers, crime dramas, political thrillers which can be worldwide hits on Netflix.

Sub continent, in general has a long history and bewildering diversity. Source for lot of stories.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

It is said that Rahman Dakait was driving bhutto's car at the time of her assassination. 

Yeah I have read about him in 2009-11 era when I was a very obsessive Pakistan watcher. 

 

I am surprised they showed him as a larger than life character but missed out on this detail where his men were involved in saving Benazir in the first attack on her (I think it was in Karachi in October in 2007) and were responsible for her security after that.

 

 

They could show Hamza among his men saving Bhutto from that first attack and in his rise through ranks.:winky:

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50 minutes ago, Number said:

Yeah I have read about him in 2009-11 era when I was a very obsessive Pakistan watcher. 

 

I am surprised they showed him as a larger than life character but missed out on this detail where his men were involved in saving Benazir in the first attack on her (I think it was in Karachi in October in 2007) and were responsible for her security after that.

 

 

They could show Hamza among his men saving Bhutto from that first attack and in his rise through ranks.:winky:

One more odd thing about the movie is most characters being shown drinking and smoking while most muslims don't smoke or drink because of religious prohibition. 

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41 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

One more odd thing about the movie is most characters being shown drinking and smoking while most muslims don't smoke or drink because of religious prohibition. 

I have seen chainsmoker Kashmiris and drinking a lot too.. ofc they don't do that openly in Kashmir but talking about them doing it outside of Kashmir.  

It's a misconception that Muslims don't drink or smoke at all outside of Ramzan.

 

Dhar has taken some creative liberties while showing the malls, and clubs etc that probably don't exist at all in Pookistan 

 

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

One more odd thing about the movie is most characters being shown drinking and smoking while most muslims don't smoke or drink because of religious prohibition. 

Gangsters hide behind religion only for their selfish interests. 

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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

I have seen chainsmoker Kashmiris and drinking a lot too.. ofc they don't do that openly in Kashmir but talking about them doing it outside of Kashmir.  

It's a misconception that Muslims don't drink or smoke at all outside of Ramzan.

 

Dhar has taken some creative liberties while showing the malls, and clubs etc that probably don't exist at all in Pookistan 

 

It's not a misconception. Smoking and drinking muslims are very miniscule.

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2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

One more odd thing about the movie is most characters being shown drinking and smoking while most muslims don't smoke or drink because of religious prohibition. 

 

That's a very generalized and stereotypical understanding of Pakistan. In Punjab and Karachi, upper middle class and elite are absolute alcohol consumers. Almost all my colleagues and friends from Pakistan are drinkers.  Alcohol ban is as effective as it is in Gujarat. 

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24 minutes ago, Number said:

A burning question- who was that minister and his son who facilitated Pakistanis in getting plates of INR 500 and 1000 notes ?

 

Chidu ?

Chidu was the finance minister around that time. It's an outrageous claim that he would have done this.

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4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

One more odd thing about the movie is most characters being shown drinking and smoking while most muslims don't smoke or drink because of religious prohibition. 

Muslim elite are not that observant. They drink and some do drugs.

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3 hours ago, Number said:

A burning question- who was that minister and his son who facilitated Pakistanis in getting plates of INR 500 and 1000 notes ?

 

Chidu ?

 

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Chidu was the finance minister around that time. It's an outrageous claim that he would have done this.

Yes, Chidu 

reinstated a blacklisted UK company that provided paper for printing money to the Indian government.. it was blacklisted by Prannb Mukherji.. The same company was providing paper for printing money for Pakistan as well.. It was alleged that the company had exchanged plates with Pakistan thugs. That was the reason for blacklisting the company.. after the Modi garment in 2014 the company was blacklisted again. This was all over the news back then.. it could be an allegation, but investigative journalism had connected the 

two. Also creative license for fiction is allowed to do this as well.. 

 

 

There are movies which show right wing politicians, being corrupt. Like in Rang e Basanti, the saffron defense minister is involved in causing fighter planes to be ineffective and crash on purpose.. that is acceptable for most but any kind of UPA corruption shown in movies is a BJP propaganda for the critics. This is doglapan. I am not saying this about @rkt.india

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6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Yes, Chidu 

reinstated a blacklisted I UKcompany that provided paper for printing money to the Indian government.. it was blacklisted by Prannvb Mukherji.. The same company was providing paper for printing money for Pakistan as well.. It was alleged that the company had exchanged plates with Pakistan thugs. That was the reason for blacklisting the company.. after the Modi garment in 2014 the company was blacklisted again. This was all over the news back then.. it could be an allegation, but the investigative journalism could connect the 

two. Also creative license for fiction can be used to do this as well.. 

 

 

There are movies which show right wing politicians, being corrupt. Like in Rang e Basanti, the saffron defense minister is involved in causing fighter planes to be ineffective and crash on purpose.. that is acceptable for most but any kind of UPA corruption shown in movies is a BJP propaganda for the critics. This is doglapan. I am not saying this about @rkt.india

Which year did Pranav mukharji blacklist the company?

 

Regarding rang de basanti, i have never watched it and I don't know if it was inspired by real stories like Dhurandhar which is based on real events.  

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10 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Which year did Pranav mukharji blacklist the company?

 

Regarding rang de basanti, i have never watched it and I don't know if it was inspired by real stories like Dhurandhar which is based on real events.  

Gemini says

 

The query refers to a political controversy in India involving the former Finance Minister 
P. Chidambaram and the British banknote printing firm De La Rue. The core of the issue is the blacklisting of De La Rue by the Indian government for allegedly supplying substandard currency paper and potentially compromising national security. 
 
Key Details of the Controversy
  • Initial Contract and Allegations (2004-2010): De La Rue secured contracts to supply security threads and paper for Indian currency notes when P. Chidambaram was the Finance Minister. Indian intelligence agencies later found that the company was also supplying materials to Pakistan, which allegedly used them to print high-quality counterfeit Indian notes.
  • Blacklisting (2010): Following these intelligence reports and the firm's admission that some employees falsified quality certificates, the company was blacklisted by the Home Ministry, then under the purview of Pranab Mukherjee as Finance Minister.
  • Blacklisting Lifted (2012): When Chidambaram returned as Finance Minister in 2012, the blacklisting was controversially lifted, and imports from De La Rue resumed on an ad-hoc basis until around 2015. This decision was made based on a letter from then Economic Affairs Secretary Arvind Mayaram.
  • Investigations and Aftermath: The matter resurfaced following the 2016 demonetization and in subsequent years. The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) launched probes into the matter, including an FIR against former Finance Secretary Arvind Mayaram in 2023 for alleged corruption and illegal extensions of the contract. De La Rue acknowledged the Indian investigation into historical activities prior to 2016 but stated the allegations had no merit. 
The controversy is often cited in political discussions, with critics of the then-ruling government suggesting a compromise of national security for personal gain, and proponents arguing that demonetization was necessary to end the fake currency syndicate linked to the scam. 
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