Indigo deliberate collapse

[bharathh]

What Indigo management has done is criminal. Ideally, after things return to normal they need to be fined. The CEO should be made to resign along with management. 

 

It's ludicrous to see people siding with them. 

 

WTF? They didn't know that they couldn't fly as many planes as they normally do when the regulations kick in although they knew about it 18 months back? 

 

Bull. All arm twisting bull

[jf1gp_1]

this was bound to happen. you start regulating rates then what are airlines supposed to do ? Let's make sure the only airline in profit also goes negative. 

 

 

[bharathh]

Just now, bharathh said:

What Indigo management has done is criminal. Ideally, after things return to normal they need to be fined. The CEO should be made to resign along with management. 

 

It's ludicrous to see people siding with them. 

 

WTF? They didn't know that they couldn't fly as many planes as they normally do when the regulations kick in although they knew about it 18 months back? 

 

Bull. All arm twisting bull

Btw they even lowered the airline pilot's salaries in advance stating that they wouldn't need to fly as much going forward. 

 

Then they increased the pilot's workload again. Evil company. 

[bharathh]

Just now, jf1gp_1 said:

this was bound to happen. you start regulating rates then what are airlines supposed to do ? Let's make sure the only airline in profit also goes negative. 

 

 

 

Fly fewer planes. Don't book phatom flights that will never fly and take people's money. 

[zen]

If I am not wrong, Indigo operates over 2,000 flights daily. With such a huge operation, minor jitters even through multiple channels can cause the system to crash. Even a 10-20% impact equals to 200-400 flights being disrupted. 
 

PS And let’s not forget that Indigo is actually creating employment opportunities not GOI, which has an embarrassing record of ruining businesses it manages esp. airline. 

Edited December 8, 2025 by zen

[Mariyam]

4 hours ago, zen said:

If I am not wrong, Indigo operates over 2,000 flights daily. With such a huge operation, minor jitters even through multiple channels can cause the system to crash. Even a 10-20% impact equals to 200-400 flights being disrupted. 
 

PS And let’s not forget that Indigo is actually creating employment opportunities not GOI, which has an embarrassing record of ruining businesses it manages esp. airline. 

Minor jitters?

 

DGCA laid out guidelines about number of pilot hours in a 24 hour rolling span that the primary pilot can fly. The Airlines had 2 years to comply. Indigo ignored it. Pilot fatigue is real. There have been a fair few near misses in Indian skies over the last few years attributed to pilot fatigue. Are we going to do something only after a disaster?

For once the DGCA was proactive!

 

If you were to normalize by considering employees/ aircraft that the airline flies, Air India has nearly twice the number of people as Indigo. Including ground staff. Indigo has been skimping on hiring people to cut costs, Air India is focused on keeping its employees.

 

 

[zen]

2 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Minor jitters?

 

DGCA laid out guidelines about number of pilot hours in a 24 hour rolling span that the primary pilot can fly. The Airlines had 2 years to comply. Indigo ignored it. Pilot fatigue is real. There have been a fair few near misses in Indian skies over the last few years attributed to pilot fatigue. Are we going to do something only after a disaster?

For once the DGCA was proactive!

 

If you were to normalize by considering employees/ aircraft that the airline flies, Air India has nearly twice the number of people as Indigo. Including ground staff. Indigo has been skimping on hiring people to cut costs, Air India is focused on keeping its employees.

 

 

This is impacting the business model of a company unless the assumption is that all airlines (or businesses) operate in a similar way - an Emirates is supposed to be run like a Southwest or a Ryanair. 

If I am not wrong, indigo operates the maximum night flights as well.

 

The pilots can operate on what works best for them. They are not the only stakeholders for an airline. If there is no airline, they are no pilots unless GOI is going to hire every employees who suffers from such an action. 

GOI has a habit of doing something to stir a storm. Whether its regulations in airline industry, ethanol for petrol, etc. This is an incompetent government!

 

[bharathh]

 

[Mariyam]

1 hour ago, zen said:

This is impacting the business model of a company unless the assumption is that all airlines (or businesses) operate in a similar way - an Emirates is supposed to be run like a Southwest or a Ryanair. 

If I am not wrong, indigo operates the maximum night flights as well.

 

The pilots can operate on what works best for them. They are not the only stakeholders for an airline. If there is no airline, they are no pilots unless GOI is going to hire every employees who suffers from such an action. 

GOI has a habit of doing something to stir a storm. Whether its regulations in airline industry, ethanol for petrol, etc. This is an incompetent government!

 

Indigo agreed to the conditions laid across by the DGCA. As did all other airlines around 2 years ago. Over the last two years they falsified rosters to show more pilots than what they actually had to keep appearances that they paid heed to the DGCA guidelines. When it was decided that the DGCA should audit now before enforcing the said guidelines, they cancelled flights. There is no 'right' for Indigo.

 

Yes the government is incompetent, but that is not a free pass for Indigo to flout rules that they agree to adhere to. They could have challenged DGCA guidelines in the court two years ago. Yet instead of slugging it out like a normal organization, they inconvenience their customers.

[zen]

14 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Indigo agreed to the conditions laid across by the DGCA. As did all other airlines around 2 years ago. Over the last two years they falsified rosters to show more pilots than what they actually had to keep appearances that they paid heed to the DGCA guidelines. When it was decided that the DGCA should audit now before enforcing the said guidelines, they cancelled flights. There is no 'right' for Indigo.

 

Yes the government is incompetent, but that is not a free pass for Indigo to flout rules that they agree to adhere to. They could have challenged DGCA guidelines in the court two years ago. Yet instead of slugging it out like a normal organization, they inconvenience their customers.

That is pointless once you consider that such a move could make a major airline unsustainable as there is no standard business model. 

If the airline shuts down, where are the pilots and other employees going to find employment soon? 

 

 

 

Edited December 8, 2025 by zen

[Lord]

the irony

 

 

[zen]

10 minutes ago, Lord said:

the irony

 

 

I don’t know why folks post such dumb social media posts. 
 

So if those guys had been on a flight to Kolkata, then Indigo was supposed to cancel that flight.   

 

 

Edited December 8, 2025 by zen

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

I don’t know why folks post such dumb social media posts. 
 

So if those guys had been on a flight to Kolkata, then Indigo was supposed to cancel that flight.   

 

 

 

All domestic flights have been cancelled so yeah lol

[MechEng]

1 hour ago, zen said:

That is pointless once you consider that such a move could make a major airline unsustainable as there is no standard business model. 

If the airline shuts down, where are the pilots and other employees going to find employment soon? 

 

 

 

 

You seem oblivious to dirty tactics followed in Indian businesses.

 

Indigo has 70% market share and they know that Indian consumers will throw tantrums for a month or two and will have to inevitably adjust to the norm (fly by Indigo). This was deliberate.

 

India is run by cronies and does not follow free market capitalism where all businesses are treated equally before law.

Edited December 8, 2025 by MechEng

[IndianRenegade]

On 12/7/2025 at 5:46 AM, randomGuy said:

* All other airlines had no issues incorporating rule changes regarding pilot rest hours.

* Flights cancelled after luggage check-in. 

* Collapse over multiple days.

* Foreign CEO.

* Had monopoly (60-65%) in indian market.

 

 

Possibly this kind of failure this scale never seen in the world. Passengers facing huge losses and stress.

South West Hold my beeer! I got caught up in south west fiasco, wasn't pretty. 

 

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The Southwest Airlines fiasco during the 2022 holiday season was a significant operational failure that led to the cancellation of nearly 17,000 flights. The airline was fined $140 million by the U.S. Department of Transportation for these violations.

 

[zen]

8 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

You seem oblivious to dirty tactics followed in Indian businesses.

 

Indigo has 70% market share and they know that Indian consumers will throw tantrums for a month or two and will have to inevitably adjust to the norm (fly by Indigo). This was deliberate.

 

India is run by cronies and does not follow free market capitalism where all businesses are treated equally before law.

I see it as a company fighting to maintain its business model where it optimizes its fleet and crew. 

With over 2000 flights daily and 65% market share, the scale that Indigo operate on is different from even an Air India. 
 

 

 

[MechEng]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

I see it as a company fighting to maintain its business model where it optimizes its fleet and crew. 

With over 2000 flights daily and 65% market share, the scale that Indigo operate on is different from even an Air India. 
 

 

 

 

Optimize it's crew by overworking them?

 

All companies should follow Narayanmurthy ideals then. Make freshers work 70 hours and pay only 3.5 lpa. Max optimization.

[zen]

8 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

Optimize it's crew by overworking them?

 

All companies should follow Narayanmurthy ideals then. Make freshers work 70 hours and pay only 3.5 lpa. Max optimization.

Yes, if “overworked” is your preferred term - if that is what it takes to keep a company going in one of the toughest industries. 
 

If the company folds (which happens in airline industry), the pilots get to rest forever in their homes until (if) they find a new job. 
 

 

Edited December 8, 2025 by zen

[MechEng]

4 minutes ago, zen said:

Yes, if “overworked” is your preferred term - if that is what it takes to keep a company going in one of the toughest industries. 
 

If the company folds (which happens in airline industry), the pilots get to rest forever in their homes until (if) they find a new job. 
 

 

 

That's not the only point. The fact that they deliberately held passengers as hostages shows the respect an Indian business has for it's consumer.

 

Besides, I sense you have some stake with Indigo.

[zen]

38 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

That's not the only point. The fact that they deliberately held passengers as hostages shows the respect an Indian business has for it's consumer.

 

Besides, I sense you have some stake with Indigo.

I don’t think it shows anything like that.

 

PS look at what other airlines did: 

 

NEW DELHI: Govt on Saturday reimposed airfare caps — for the first time after Covid — as the IndiGo crisis has sent ticket prices defying gravity on other airlines. The aviation ministry says it has “ taken a serious note of unusually high airfares being charged by certain airlines during the ongoing disruption” and that it has “invoked its regulatory powers to ensure fair and reasonable fares across all affected routes” to “protect passengers from any form of opportunistic pricing.”

 

Throughout this crisis, the aviation ministry has been nothing but a mute spectator. Their statements during the IndiGo crisis bear no resemblance to ground reality at airports” fumed Srivastava.
 

Source: TOI
 

 

Edited December 8, 2025 by zen