Pratik77 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 See this type of incident gets public nd fear gets spread...we already are low trust society...nd then again hindus get the stick why aren't they are secular enough now...
randomGuy Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Pratik77 said: See this type of incident gets public nd fear gets spread...we already are low trust society...nd then again hindus get the stick why aren't they are secular enough now... On Twitter, you would find almost daily LJ cases. Bajrang Dal and similar groups saving lives of girls/families on daily basis. They recently launched helpline number as well. Who gives 'the stick to Hindus'? it's section of the media with agenda. On ground, people know the reality. mishra and Pratik77 2
singhvivek141 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 He's just following the learnings from Maulana's. Action lena hai to take it against the Madarsa's...where such teachings are given. China type constant 24*7 surveillance is the need of the hour
Mariyam Posted May 24 Posted May 24 6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: He's just following the learnings from Maulana's. Action lena hai to take it against the Madarsa's...where such teachings are given. China type constant 24*7 surveillance is the need of the hour Madrassas do not teach delivery agents to dox contact details of their customers. Neither do maulanas teach this. Data theft is a serious issue. Can be used for something as benign as sending ads and intrusive marketing and for something as serious as crime. This is not necessarily a Muslim crime on non Muslims. Nikhil_cric, Lord, Gollum and 1 other 2 2
Mariyam Posted May 24 Posted May 24 The vid in the tweet has the delivery person confessing to doxing the customer. What leads to the conclusion that it is only against Hindus and Hindu females at that? The delivery person should be charged under the relevant sections but why build some narrative around this? Gollum, Lord, Lone Wolf and 2 others 5
Trichromatic Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Does amazon share phone numbers of customers with delivery agents? Never seen getting call from private numbers and numbers being printed anywhere.
randomGuy Posted May 24 Posted May 24 One can post 1 case per day using Twitter. But people should beware of this issue and contributions of Bajrang Dal and the likes on daily basis.
randomGuy Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Some pics and incidents are too hideous to share. But beware of this issue.
singhvivek141 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mariyam said: Madrassas do not teach delivery agents to dox contact details of their customers. Neither do maulanas teach this. Data theft is a serious issue. Can be used for something as benign as sending ads and intrusive marketing and for something as serious as crime. This is not necessarily a Muslim crime on non Muslims. Sharing details of customers is just a means. Real motive is to convert, and that's what Madarsas and Maulanas teach. Islamic Da'wah Center (IDC) Case : Maulana Umar Gautam was involved in religious conversion. https://thewire.in/law/in-first-major-conviction-under-up-conversion-law-prominent-islamic-scholar-and-11-others-sentenced-to-life Situation is so bad that they were luring and converting kids under "Noida Deaf Society". Shameful! Edited May 24 by singhvivek141 mishra 1
Lone Wolf Posted May 24 Posted May 24 2 hours ago, randomGuy said: One can post 1 case per day using Twitter. But people should beware of this issue and contributions of Bajrang Dal and the likes on daily basis. Case from MP in a BJP ruled state where Police inaction led to Bajrang Dal getting involved. Good stuff as it looks like a genuine love jihad case. Lord 1
Mariyam Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Sharing details of customers is just a means. Real motive is to convert, and that's what Madarsas and Maulanas teach. Islamic Da'wah Center (IDC) Case : Maulana Umar Gautam was involved in religious conversion. https://thewire.in/law/in-first-major-conviction-under-up-conversion-law-prominent-islamic-scholar-and-11-others-sentenced-to-life Situation is so bad that they were luring and converting kids under "Noida Deaf Society". Shameful! Conversion under any kind of deceit or force is shameful. It is also unIslamic. It is null and void under Islamic cannon. There is a provision called ‘dawah’ whence from the word ‘Dawar’ comes. That is an *invite*. Also the syllabus of madrassas is regulated by the GoI and no where is conversion a topic. The topics are reading and exegesis (tarjuma) of the Holy Quran. Do you think a syllabus regulated by the GoI will have conversions as a part of the syllabus? There is nothing to indicate that this data was sent for conversion. Could result in another one of those pesky cold calls “ sir/madam do you want Club Mahindra membership” Also, a grown woman with a mind of her own is not going to convert coz some ‘Maulana’ said so.
singhvivek141 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Conversion under any kind of deceit or force is shameful. It is also unIslamic. It is null and void under Islamic cannon. There is a provision called ‘dawah’ whence from the word ‘Dawar’ comes. That is an *invite*. Also the syllabus of madrassas is regulated by the GoI and no where is conversion a topic. The topics are reading and exegesis (tarjuma) of the Holy Quran. Do you think a syllabus regulated by the GoI will have conversions as a part of the syllabus? There is nothing to indicate that this data was sent for conversion. Could result in another one of those pesky cold calls “ sir/madam do you want Club Mahindra membership” Also, a grown woman with a mind of her own is not going to convert coz some ‘Maulana’ said so. This is only in the books, who follows that ? Dancing and music is unislamic as well, how many follows that ? Even usage of loudspeakers is unislamic, the creater of Pakistan...Mr. Jinnah was someone who used to consume alcohol, Salman Khan and so many bollywood actors drink alcohol. Does anyone calls them unislamic ? You might have known the bulldozing of "illegal madarsa's" in UP. Illegal means they weren't registered with GOI and were run without approvals. We saw what happened in TCS Nashik, right ? That wasn't for club mahindra membership. And conversion happens with strategy, when a group of youth will befriend a woman, spike her drink in some gathering and then record what happens after, many woman will not be able to say no due to fear and shame. 1992 Ajmer case is a brutal example....kindly read about that. mishra 1
Mariyam Posted May 24 Posted May 24 @singhvivek141 You are changing the arguement. What happened in Nashik was criminal. There is no debate on that fact. The perpetrators have been arrested. Including the HR woman who was hiding in some corporator/MLA’s home. But this is not taught by Maulanas. In Mumbai where I live, infact it is the Maulanas who have steered poor Muslim youth away ( with some degree of success) from mindless bike stunts and drug abuse. Why blame the regulated system of Madrassas and government appointed Muezzins and Maulanas? What you (and many other suggest) is this: if any crime is committed by a Muslim, he must be a fundamentalist and the crime some sort of a jihad. I would be the last person to say that fundamentalism isn’t a problem in Indian Muslim society, but generalising it as a maulana/Madrassa problem is very lazy. And incorrect. Lord and straighttalk 1 1
randomGuy Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) How does Taliban think about how Taliban follows their religion? Edited May 24 by randomGuy
Lone Wolf Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: How does Taliban think about how Taliban follows their religion? Taliban is pretty self explanatory about what they have done in Afg also as Sushant Sareen once said the core principle of TTP within Pak is not to secede but actually destroy the nizam of current Pak establishment/society and replace it with Hardcore Sharia rule.
straighttalk Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) On 5/24/2026 at 4:35 AM, Mariyam said: Madrassas do not teach delivery agents to dox contact details of their customers. Neither do maulanas teach this. Data theft is a serious issue. Can be used for something as benign as sending ads and intrusive marketing and for something as serious as crime. This is not necessarily a Muslim crime on non Muslims. Dont get in the path of people spreading hate in the name of religion...let them take one incident and try to paint the entire community as evil..because they think everyone is an idiot.. and you can't win a logical fight with an idiot Edited May 27 by straighttalk Laaloo 1
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