arun81 Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 May be every school should have a Lesson about the "Glory of Sharia" and the Taqqia of the Seculars... Will be much better than this
diga Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 What does this fall under - secular' date=' uniform civil code, pseudo secular, or fundamentalist? [/quote'] It falls under "paid news" & education reforms..
1983-2011 Posted August 7, 2013 Author Posted August 7, 2013 Gita in Urdu textbooks: Chouhan withdraws order http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/gita-in-urdu-textbooks-chouhan-withdraws-order/article4996045.ece/?maneref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F
The Outsider Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Gita in Urdu textbooks: Chouhan withdraws order http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/gita-in-urdu-textbooks-chouhan-withdraws-order/article4996045.ece/?maneref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F Paid news. The order never happened so what's there to withdraw. :winky:
Mariyam Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 If it indeed is a State Government directive, I say its not a bad move. Learning a little bit of the Gita is only going to widen the horizons of the pupils. No harm can come from it. Terming it as 'saffronization' of the Madrassa is completely ridiculous. Madrassas (at least in Maharashtra) have in their 3rd grade Urdu text books the story of David and Goliath. Do we term this the Judaization of Madrassas?
Mariyam Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 FYI, Gita is a not about relegion & practices.. Its more philosophical in nature & is more about the moral & ethical struggles of everyday life. When Arabian nights is prescribed as a supplement to introduce one to the Arabian culture, why not Gita? Let them have a supplement of all relegions every year. Muslims in India need to have a more worldly outlook than having the frog-in-a-well syndrome Since you've made so wide a generalization, I would also counter with a generalization of my own. Muslims in India are fairly well versed with stories from Hindu mythology. You have tons of Muslim spectators when Ram Leelas are played across cities and towns. I'm not talking about just 'celebrating' festivals of the others, which for many means dancing to the tunes of a part time DJ and eating the festival specific delicacies. I mean actually knowing of characters from Hindu mythology. But the reverse, I would say, is not so easy to find. How many of you would have read Laila Majnu? Or tales of the witticism of Nasiruddin Hoodja? Or the mischief of little Qassim and Jamal? Maybe a handful.
Ram Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Ok, so the kids are now going to brainwashed using 2 religious texts instead of one. God help us.
Yoda-esque Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 If it indeed is a State Government directive, I say its not a bad move. Learning a little bit of the Gita is only going to widen the horizons of the pupils. No harm can come from it. Terming it as 'saffronization' of the Madrassa is completely ridiculous. Madrassas (at least in Maharashtra) have in their 3rd grade Urdu text books the story of David and Goliath. Do we term this the Judaization of Madrassas? Thats within the lines all all Abrahamic religions isn't it.
Mariyam Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Thats within the lines all all Abrahamic religions isn't it. True. David is considered a prophet in Islam. In fact one of the few prophets who was a king.
Laaloo Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Religion should be kept out of schools. Period. and sports as well
diga Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Since you've made so wide a generalization, I would also counter with a generalization of my own. Muslims in India are fairly well versed with stories from Hindu mythology. You have tons of Muslim spectators when Ram Leelas are played across cities and towns. I'm not talking about just 'celebrating' festivals of the others, which for many means dancing to the tunes of a part time DJ and eating the festival specific delicacies. I mean actually knowing of characters from Hindu mythology. But the reverse, I would say, is not so easy to find. How many of you would have read Laila Majnu? Or tales of the witticism of Nasiruddin Hoodja? Or the mischief of little Qassim and Jamal? Maybe a handful. I can say that I have read them.... My point was more about how these things are sensationalized for petty political gains.. when they are non issues. Anybody with a semblance of common sense can say that it helps to broaden ones' horizon by being exposed to more things than being compartmentalized with narrow knowledge..
Detonator Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Since you've made so wide a generalization, I would also counter with a generalization of my own. Muslims in India are fairly well versed with stories from Hindu mythology. You have tons of Muslim spectators when Ram Leelas are played across cities and towns. I'm not talking about just 'celebrating' festivals of the others, which for many means dancing to the tunes of a part time DJ and eating the festival specific delicacies. I mean actually knowing of characters from Hindu mythology. But the reverse, I would say, is not so easy to find. How many of you would have read Laila Majnu? Or tales of the witticism of Nasiruddin Hoodja? Or the mischief of little Qassim and Jamal? Maybe a handful. Agree. A family friend of mine (muslim ) has written a book that has Lord Muruga devotional poems. My mom reads it daily. He is even allowed to read that poem in maruthamalai, a famous temple. He also happen to own a tiny, I mean a microscopic Q'uran book.
The Outsider Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 I can say that I have read them.... My point was more about how these things are sensationalized for petty political gains.. when they are non issues. Would you consider it a non issue if Congress or SP made it compulsory to teach passages from the Quran? Anybody with a semblance of common sense can say that it helps to broaden ones' horizon by being exposed to more things than being compartmentalized with narrow knowledge.. This thought is applicable to things which have a scientific and empirical basis. You don't go around teaching creationism in addition to evolution to broaden horizons. I probably shouldn't say more to avoid contravening the religious discussion policy, though.
saneindian Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Kendriya Vidyalaya's CBSE curriculum used to have 'Mahabharata' as part of the syllabus for Hindi for class 7th. The morning assembly used to start with the pledge ' All Indians are my brothers and sisters...." and would end with the prayer "Asato Ma Sat Gamaya, Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya, Mrityor Ma Amritam Gamaya, Om Shanti Shanti Shanti". Then there used to be compulsory Yoga classes every two week wherein the yoga teacher would read out shlokas while trying to teach us meditation. In fact, the KV logo had the shloka "Tatvam Pooshan Apaavrunu" a prayer to the sun god. Talking of the mid to late 80s. Was KV saffronised as well?
Cricketics Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 What's the problem really. I mean one chapter in either language shouldn't be a problem. Going beyond that can be considered illogical but having a chapter or two just for education isn't bad. I mean didn't we all grew up having nice fun chapters about Eid, Vaisakhi, Diwali, Dussehra etc. People should widen their mind and let it happen. And these things should be just done. They shouldn't be announced publicly as they create a total different picture among the groups making them think as if something is being imposed.
Desi Cartman Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Whats the logic of teaching ANY religious text in school. BTW the whole logic of madarassa or any religious school is ****ed up.
diga Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Would you consider it a non issue if Congress or SP made it compulsory to teach passages from the Quran? This thought is applicable to things which have a scientific and empirical basis. You don't go around teaching creationism in addition to evolution to broaden horizons. I probably shouldn't say more to avoid contravening the religious discussion policy, though. As I already said, Gita is not exactly a relegious text... its more a moral/philosophical discourse.So anything equivalent from any relegion is welcome
The Outsider Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 As I already said' date=' Gita is not exactly a relegious text... its more a moral/philosophical discourse.So anything equivalent from any relegion is welcome[/quote'] That's just your personal opinion. Gita is considered a religious text by most parameters of classifying a religious text. But I won't get into the merits/demerits of Gita because that will surely be a religious discussion.
Detonator Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Only the weak radicalists will make a big issue and turn this into a communal tension. :giggle: Would you consider it a non issue if Congress or SP made it compulsory to teach passages from the Quran? This thought is applicable to things which have a scientific and empirical basis. You don't go around teaching creationism in addition to evolution to broaden horizons. I probably shouldn't say more to avoid contravening the religious discussion policy, though. ......
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