GolGappe Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Has to be India's bowling coach. Dhoni's defensive mindset doesn't help either.
GoldenSun Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Why does India hire bowling coaches who have never played a test match in their lives? :hysterical: First it was Eric Simons and now Joe Dawes.
CSK Fan Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 What will the bowling coach do? Once the bowlers are out in the middle, isn't it the captain's job to attack and rotate the bowlers?
gattaca Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 India just pays them aussies in the name of bowling coaches who actually enjoy the food and hospitality and do shyte.
maniac Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Wasim I can understand,Political issue but I am sure BCCI can get hold of guys like Pollock,McGrath,Their style is ideally suited for our bowlers....All that money and they buy hacks like SImmons and Dawes
asterix Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 What will the bowling coach do? Once the bowlers are out in the middle' date=' isn't it the captain's job to attack and rotate the bowlers?[/quote'] For Indian team a bowling coach is really required to train the Captain about proper bowling strategies and selection of bowlers based on the conditions.... At least...
don_corleone840 Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 For Indian team a bowling coach is really required to train the Captain about proper bowling strategies and selection of bowlers based on the conditions.... At least... I think all indian bowlers are rubbish.They will all get hammered soo i dont blame dhoni for loss.Its selectors job to find a decent bowler, not dhoni's. Batsman saved our **** against Australia but u cant chase down 300 plus scores in South africa .We really need a bowing coach and should fire Duncan Fleture
singhprakash72 Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Bowling coach can do what really ...help to suddenly have a 3rd grade bowler to start bowling with swing,pace and movement ? Bowling coach is all BS.. ask Dale Styen
express bowling Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Wasim I can understand' date='Political issue but I am sure BCCI can get hold of [b']guys like Pollock,McGrath,Their style is ideally suited for our bowlers....All that money and they buy hacks like SImmons and Dawes Both these pacers were really tall and used steep bounce as one of their weapons. Most of our current pacers are on the shorter side who can't get steep bounce. So, how is their style ideally suited to our pacers ?
IKnowU Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 :giggle: This isn't junior cricket where the coach will help you fix your mid life crisis. You have to have come sort of talent/skill the coach can expand on and work with.....barely any of our phastttt bowlers have that.
nevada Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Well, if the coach can do nothing, then why have one at all? Maybe he is trying to fill the bowlers heads with too much info and confusing the heck out of them. So just fire him and let the bowlers do well by themselves.
maniac Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Both these pacers were really tall and used steep bounce as one of their weapons. Most of our current pacers are on the shorter side who can't get steep bounce. So' date=' how is their style ideally suited to our pacers ?[/quote'] They were not faast, just 135-140 even 130-135 at times and did well even in s.c...don't know bounce being a major eeapon for pollock at least. Most of our upcoming bowlers as well as ishant are of decent height. ....I am not talking about unadkat, vinay, dinda etc
rkt.india Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 :giggle: This isn't junior cricket where the coach will help you fix your mid life crisis. You have to have come sort of talent/skill the coach can expand on and work with.....barely any of our phastttt bowlers have that. Most of the guys have talent and skills which need to be polished, likes of Umesh, BK, Shami, Aaron, Shukla, Suyal, Pandey, Dhawal, etc. All these have something in them to work with. Shami and Umesh have great outswingers. Umesh specially needs to work on his control and get the ball in right areas consistently to use his outswingers as stock deliveries. Same of Shami.
putrevus Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 We fans and some media too underestimate the need of good bowling coach or coach for that matter. All bowlers who have come in to Indian team had talent but they seem to get stuck and regress instead of taking the next step in becoming consistent. That consistency has to be learnt at international level no bowler has it at beginning.That job has to be done by bowling coach. I am wonder stuck why nobody has questioned these guys like Eric Simmons and this Joe Davis now?? Who is hindering their development and why are losing their speed.
surajmal Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh it.
express bowling Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 They were not faast, just 135-140 even 130-135 at times and did well even in s.c...don't know bounce being a major eeapon for pollock at least. Most of our upcoming bowlers as well as ishant are of decent height. ....I am not talking about unadkat, vinay, dinda etc Approx. height of our pacers Shami 5'9" Umesh 5'11" BK 5'9" Aaron 5'11" Mohit 5'9" Suyal, Shukla etc. are less than 6' too. All short or medium height compared to fast bowlers who have to be about 6'2" or more to be considered tall. Only Ishant is 6'5". McGrath was 6'5" Pollock. 6'3" Our better pacers .. Shami, Umesh and Aaron are actually much quicker than McGrath or Pollock. Bhuvi, though about the same pace as those greats, slightly slower perhaps, have a complete different style of bowling. He mostly floats the ball whereas McGrath and Pollock were deck hitters.... McGrath more so ... and got bounce. Guys like Ishant, Pandey, Pankaj etc. would be closer in style to those 2.
Yoda-esque Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 You need Ishant for better or worse in SA
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