express bowling Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Rahul Nain from Delhi, Prince Badiani, Divyanshu Singh from Mumbai, Dhanush Gowda from Karnataka, Divij Mehra from Delhi are all 6'5" plus prospects Dhanush Gowda is very slow. Badiani looks sharp enough. What is the speed of the other pacers ? Edited January 17, 2022 by express bowling Vijy and Mosher 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: Dhanush Gowda is very slow. Badiani looks sharp enough. What is the speed of the other pacers ? Can't judge pace at 17-18 years of age. To me, Divyanshu Singh looks the quickest. Edited January 17, 2022 by rkt.india Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: Can't judge pace at 17-18 years of age. To me, Divyanshu Singh looks the quickest. You judge pace at 17-18 by comparing their speeds with other pacers of similar age. Mosher and Vijy 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) Bowling attack for the first ODI Bumrah Bhuvi Shardul Venkatesh Ashwin Chahal Pretty conservative bowling line-up. All trundlers apart from Bumrah. Edited January 19, 2022 by express bowling rollingstoned and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Bumrah bowls upto 144 kph in the 1st over But line too leg-sidish Mosher 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 48 minutes ago, express bowling said: Bowling attack for the first ODI Bumrah Bhuvi Shardul Venkatesh Ashwin Chahal Pretty conservative bowling line-up. All trundlers apart from Bumrah. Dravid is sucking big time Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 1:42 PM, express bowling said: You judge pace at 17-18 by comparing their speeds with other pacers of similar age. Even that's not the best idea. For eg, Pat Cummins was hitting 150 at 17 while Starc was hardly crossing 140 at 21 but starc turned out to be quicker in the long run. Bodies don't grow/mature at the same age for everyone. Some grow early, some late. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Bumrah got his first wicket with a good length channel ball. Hope he keeps bowling these attacking lines and lengths. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Bumrah 10th over ---- .. OUT 143 143 144 142 141 All the deliveries were yorkers / attempted yorkers. Good over ! rollingstoned, Mosher, Forward Defence and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Bhuvi 0 for 64. @ 6.4 runs an over. We know what he brings to the table in ODIs. Why not try a young quick bowler like Prasidh ? ( Assuming Siraj is still unfit ) Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, express bowling said: Bhuvi 0 for 64. @ 6.4 runs an over. We know what he brings to the table in ODIs. Why not try a young quick bowler like Prasidh ? ( Assuming Siraj is still unfit ) Atleast he's consistent in being wicketless and conceding near 6rpo We should appreciate tht,no bowler would be hailed as strike bowler with those skills If Prasidh plays and is less economical our fellow members would whine about how bad are our youngsters and which is why we are forced to play Bhuvi,Dhawan Yuvraj Sehwag were so inconsistent and erratic but they fired when ut mattered ,you need to back them,just saying Edited January 19, 2022 by Suhaan Mosher, Vijy and express bowling 3 Link to comment
New guy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Bhuvi 0 for 64. @ 6.4 runs an over. We know what he brings to the table in ODIs. Why not try a young quick bowler like Prasidh ? ( Assuming Siraj is still unfit ) Absolutely no plans for ODIs except stick to oldies. Never going to win any tournament with this bowling attack express bowling, Iconoclast and Chakdephatte 1 2 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Not a single Indian bowler on this list. Added to their low release heights and no ready high quality test class replacements, are we heading to the pre 2015 era of Indian bowling? express bowling and Vijy 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Not a single Indian bowler on this list. Added to their low release heights and no ready high quality test class replacements, are we heading to the pre 2015 era of Indian bowling? We are definitely seeing a fall in quality, pace and bounce of Indian fast bowlers after the Australian tour of 2020-21. ( We were at our peak from 2015 to 2020 and did really well ) The 2 tests at Lord's and the Oval 2021 were aberrations. And this can be rectified ONLY if our TM stop living in denial of this fact and take steps like 1) Top pacers taking time off by rotation and doing strength and conditioning training at the NCA. 2) Introducing new quick pacers with skills. Edited January 19, 2022 by express bowling Mosher and rollingstoned 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Not a single Indian bowler on this list. Added to their low release heights and no ready high quality test class replacements, are we heading to the pre 2015 era of Indian bowling? in tests Bumrah averages 19.24 from 12 tests in 2018 and 2019. This is superb ! He averages 27.25 from 15 tests from 2020 onwards. This is just about ok. In ODIs, Bumrah averages 21.9 till 2019. From 2020 onwards he averages 75.71 ... now that's correct .. a freaking 75.71 In terms of speeds, he used to average 139 kph + in tests in 2018 and 2019. From 2020 onwards he averages around 137 kph in tests. Plus his bounce has reduced in the last 6 months. He needs to recognize this fact and take corrective steps. Mosher, AKane and rollingstoned 1 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: in tests Bumrah averages 19.24 from 12 tests in 2018 and 2019. This is superb ! He averages 27.25 from 15 tests from 2020 onwards. This is just about ok. In ODIs, Bumrah averages 21.9 till 2019. From 2020 onwards he averages 75.71 ... now that's correct .. a freaking 75.71 In terms of speeds, he used to average 139 kph + in tests in 2018 and 2019. From 2020 onwards he averages around 137 kph in tests. Plus his bounce has reduced in the last 6 months. He needs to recognize this fact and take corrective steps. how the heck has this flown completely under the radar? with this performance, sorry to say, but he needs to be dropped! He should still play WCs and big events, and some matches before WC for prep, but otherwise he should not play ODIs. Would rather see Prasidh and Avesh in the team. What do you think of a trio of: Avesh, Siraj, and Prasidh? No trundlers in here. Axar can bat at 8, and we can find 2 ARs for 6 and 7. My preferred XI: Shaw, Pant (wk), Gaekwad/Brat, Gill, KLR (does decently in MO), AR 1, AR 2, Axar, Avesh (maybe Lord/D. Chahar if we need batting support), Prasidh, Siraj Edited January 19, 2022 by Vijy New guy, AKane and express bowling 3 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Vijy said: how the heck has this flown completely under the radar? with this performance, sorry to say, but he needs to be dropped! He should still play WCs and big events, and some matches before WC for prep, but otherwise he should not play ODIs. Would rather see Prasidh and Avesh in the team. What do you think of a trio of: Avesh, Siraj, and Prasidh? No trundlers in here. Axar can bat at 8, and we can find 2 ARs for 6 and 7. My preferred XI: Shaw, Pant (wk), Gaekwad/Brat, Gill, KLR (does decently in MO), AR 1, AR 2, Axar, Avesh (maybe Lord/D. Chahar if we need batting support), Prasidh, Siraj Avesh is borderline trundler. Prasidh is poor man's Srinath. Temperamentally poor. Siraj is the only one who looks bit confident in his game. We still do need to give them chances. Edited January 20, 2022 by rkt.india Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Avesh is borderline trundler. Prasidh is poor man's Srinath. Temperamentally poor. Siraj is the only one who looks bit confident in his game. We still do need to give them chances. when a cupboard is on the bare side, you should give them chances. Tyagi, Mavi, Dayal are three more I forgot to mention. And last, but not least, Hangu. I don't consider Avesh to be borderline trundler provided that he is fit and bowling with full intensity. I have seen him bowl at low speeds on occasion, but he has also bowled consistently in high 130s (min) at other times. Would like to hear what @express bowling and @Mosher also think? Edited January 20, 2022 by Vijy express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I'm not worried about our bowling in the longer format save for finding an Ashwin replacement and a gun leggie. But we need to go back to the drawing board for white ball cricket since whatever we are doing is not working for 2+ years at least. The crown jewel of our attack is evidently a part of the problem. Vijy and express bowling 2 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: crown jewel of our attack Who? Link to comment
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