Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[speedheat]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

Wahab Riaz,Umesh Yadav,Tymal Mills,Shannon Gabriel,Liam Plunkett....as much as I love pace that line up would be the perfect evidence for some trundler lovers to use against fans of fast bowling

 

May be wahab and Shannon, umesh and plunkett still has better average thn bhuvi, tymal haven't played any odi or test to judge him, also plunkett was top bowler for england in recently concluded odi series vs west indies.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, speedheat said:

Top 10 Current Fastest Bowlers of ct

Umesh Yadav vs. Sri Lanka – 146.6 [July 2017]

9. Kagiso Rabada vs. England – 147 [July 2017]

8. Liam Plunkett vs. South Africa – 147.3 [June 2017]

7. Adam Milne vs. Bangladesh – 147.7 [June 2017]

6. Jasprit Bumrah vs. Pakistan – 148.1 [June 2017]

5. Shannon Gabriel vs. Pakistan – 148.2 [May 2017]

4. Mitchell Starc vs. England – 148.5 [June 2017]

3. Tymal Mills vs. India – 149 [February 2017]

2. Pat Cummins vs. England – 149.2 [June 2017]

1. Wahab Riaz vs. India – 149.6 

 

https://sporteology.com/top-10-current-fastest-bowlers-world-cricket/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3257476868

 

See not a single fast bowler  apart from wahab in that list no hassan and no amir too, and we have 2 ,bumrah and umesh.

You also don't have answers to  Aron, shami and ishant in test matches which requires stamina, any fluke can bowl quick in t20s we have dhawal who touched 145k in ipl but we call him a mega trundler, amir, hassan, Abbas all were trundling in uae heat against srilanka, it looks like you are loosing this pace race.

 

 

Nice post.

 

Just want to add that Umesh bowled a fastest of 148.1  k against SL in CT 2017

 

http://www.bcci.tv/icc-champions-trophy-2017/match/08

Edited December 19, 2017 by express bowling

[express bowling]

9 hours ago, Vijy said:

wahab is a trundler too in the eyes of any serious international (non-Pakistani) follower of cricket, after he has bowled 10-15 overs in the day.

 

But don't you remember his spell against Watson in WC 2015  ?  ( loop mode answer )    

 

You must must try to remember it, because if you don't then you won't find much else to remember   

[Mosher]

21 minutes ago, express bowling said:

But don't you remember his spell against Watson in WC 2015  ?  ( loop mode answer )    

Yeah that famous spell where Wahab beat Watson's bat a few times and bowled a few bouncers and was "unlucky" to not get  wickets in the end. Our own Ishant does that every match he plays. 

[speedheat]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Nice post.

 

Just want to add that Umesh bowled a fastest of 148.1  k against SL in CT 2017

 

http://www.bcci.tv/icc-champions-trophy-2017/match/08

Thanks express bhai its always  nice to get such compliment from top posters like you 

[Rasgulla]

59 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Yeah that famous spell where Wahab beat Watson's bat a few times and bowled a few bouncers and was "unlucky" to not get  wickets in the end. Our own Ishant does that every match he plays. 

Still waiting for Umesh to do it... Ishant atleast won 1 match at Lords

[rkt.india]

10 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Still waiting for Umesh to do it... Ishant atleast won 1 match at Lords

http://www.hotstar.com/sports/cricket/india-vs-australia-2017/m181620/match-clips/fiery-umesh-rips-out-renshaw/2002001204

 

Highest wickets for an Indian fast bowler in a series at home in decades.

Edited December 19, 2017 by rkt.india

[the don]

12 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

 

 

This video is not available in India

 

The one bowling fast must be Wahab Riaz

 

Amir has been significantly slower than most Indian pacers in test matches after his return from match-fixing ban

 

 

You are funny

 

I am talking about test matches nowadays.

 

Gul played his last test almost 5 years back ... Irfan has played only 4 tests, the last one 4 years back.

 

How are current Pakistani pacers faring in test matches in terms of speed  !

 

Apart from Wahab, all your other pacers were trundling in England and West Indies .

No . It is amir and he is bowling well over 140s consistently . Matching starc for pace something indian bowlers cannot do .

Does not change the fact that in televised games the same irfan and gul outpace the likes of shami , ishanth and dinda by around 10 kilometres .

The highlights are everywhere

 

Edited December 19, 2017 by the don

[the don]

4 hours ago, speedheat said:

May be wahab and Shannon, umesh and plunkett still has better average thn bhuvi, tymal haven't played any odi or test to judge him, also plunkett was top bowler for england in recently concluded odi series vs west indies.

Your list just reinforces the point that no Indian bowler has the ability to bowl remotely as fast as wahab riaz  . 

Only Australian bowlers can bowl that sort of raw pace .

That list is missing hasan ali whi bowled 147 and amir with 146 in the CT.

He was the quickest in the world cup . The quickest in the CT . Not just quicker than the average indian attack but quicker than the fastest bowlers in the world . Him and amir were much quicker than the indian bowlers in the recent tournament in India and bangladesh .

Amir was the quickest bowler in the final against india on average speed . Well around 90mph.

Wahab isnt even the best bowler in this team yet no indian in all history can match him for pace . Sorry .

Edited December 19, 2017 by the don

[speedheat]

12 minutes ago, the don said:

Your list just reinforces the point that no Indian bowler has the ability to bowl remotely as fast as wahab riaz  . 

Only Australian bowlers can bowl that sort of raw pace .

That list is wrong btw hasan ali bowled 147 and amir 146 in the CT.

He was the quickest in the world cup . The quiclest in the CT . Not just quicker than the average indian attack but quicker than the fastest bowlers in the world . Him and amir were much quicker than the indian bowlers in the recent tournament in India and bangladesh .

Amir was the quickest bowler in the final against india on average speed . Well around 90mph.

Wahab isnt even the best bowler in this team yet no indian in all history can match him for pace . Sorry .

 yeeev.. Bumrah 148kph wahab 149 kph I see no much difference in pace here with your fastest and our 3rd or 4th fastest bowler may be, it took 8 long years  for wahab to bowl his fastest and he was wayward as hell that tournament, its not hard to bowl with all your might way outside that offstump or legside , real deal is to bowl quick within stumps, and forget about amir, pandya clocked at 146 kph faster then amir in ct.

[Rightarmfast]

48 minutes ago, the don said:

Your list just reinforces the point that no Indian bowler has the ability to bowl remotely as fast as wahab riaz  . 

Only Australian bowlers can bowl that sort of raw pace .

That list is missing hasan ali whi bowled 147 and amir with 146 in the CT.

He was the quickest in the world cup . The quickest in the CT . Not just quicker than the average indian attack but quicker than the fastest bowlers in the world . Him and amir were much quicker than the indian bowlers in the recent tournament in India and bangladesh .

Amir was the quickest bowler in the final against india on average speed . Well around 90mph.

Wahab isnt even the best bowler in this team yet no indian in all history can match him for pace . Sorry .

Don't be sorry! We understand your pain. All this thing with bookies, terrorists, 3rd grade trundlers seem to have gotten the better of you. Relax, it will be better with time. Just drink more of water! Get well soon!

[the don]

1 hour ago, speedheat said:

 yeeev.. Bumrah 148kph wahab 149 kph I see no much difference in pace here with your fastest and our 3rd or 4th fastest bowler may be, it took 8 long years  for wahab to bowl his fastest and he was wayward as hell that tournament, its not hard to bowl with all your might way outside that offstump or legside , real deal is to bowl quick within stumps, and forget about amir, pandya clocked at 146 kph faster then amir in ct.

Bumrah has never clocked 150 . Wahab and amir do it easily and on multiple occasions .

No comparison there . 

Wahab isnt a great bowler thats why he was dropped .Even though his performances in test cricket of late are comparable to most indian bowlers .

Accuracy and bowling at the stumps ?? 

Well the Pakistani bowlers have been easily the best and most accurate since the CT . No limited overs attack comes even remotely close atm.

[Rightarmfast]

8 minutes ago, the don said:

Bumrah has never clocked 150 . Wahab and amir do it easily and on multiple occasions .

No comparison there . 

Wahab isnt a great bowler thats why he was dropped .Even though his performances in test cricket of late are comparable to most indian bowlers .

Accuracy and bowling at the stumps ?? 

Well the Pakistani bowlers have been easily the best and most accurate since the CT . No limited overs attack comes even remotely close atm.

what do you smoke?

[Forever Indian]

17 minutes ago, the don said:

Bumrah has never clocked 150 . Wahab and amir do it easily and on multiple occasions .

No comparison there . 

Wahab isnt a great bowler thats why he was dropped .Even though his performances in test cricket of late are comparable to most indian bowlers .

Accuracy and bowling at the stumps ?? 

Well the Pakistani bowlers have been easily the best and most accurate since the CT . No limited overs attack comes even remotely close atm.

Lol, when has Amir clocked above 150 after his comeback? He clocked over 150 only in his spot-fixing days. Maybe was putting that extra effort to help bookies betting on his bowling speed.

 

Your genuine quicks are *****y sprayguns like Wahab Riaz, Mohammed Sami, etc.

 

Hasan Ali is the only good talent you have got, but again he is at start of his career and we have seen inumerable Pakistani talent going pear shaped after initial good years. So only time will tell.

[speedheat]

29 minutes ago, the don said:

Bumrah has never clocked 150 . Wahab and amir do it easily and on multiple occasions .

No comparison there . 

Wahab isnt a great bowler thats why he was dropped .Even though his performances in test cricket of late are comparable to most indian bowlers .

Accuracy and bowling at the stumps ?? 

Well the Pakistani bowlers have been easily the best and most accurate since the CT . No limited overs attack comes even remotely close atm.

 you comparing speeds of  bumrah  to wahab, bumrah has just started his career and wahab has been there since 10 years, and when did amir bowled 150 after his come back?? Delusions?? 

Your  pacers are meek in terms of pace   when it comes to highest level the real format the TEST matches

I once again repeat any fluke can bowl fast in t20s 

See some of your  real pace bowlers which you are louding in test matches 

1) amir- seen trundling in test matches in uae was not that quick in AU's where they use highest speed gun readings

2)Irfan- Lol no stamina at all seen hurling it around 127k in sout africa test matches in 2013

3) gul- bowls fastish in t20s but trundles in test matches again stamina issues

Rest all are genuine trundlers in dinda or dhawal mould 

Only wahab on his last leg is genuinely fast

 

Compare this to our guys ishant,shami, aron, umesh who all bowls In speed range of 137 to 148kph even in test matches.

Quite sure you guys are loosing this pace battle.

[express bowling]

7 hours ago, the don said:

No . It is amir and he is bowling well over 140s consistently . Matching starc for pace something indian bowlers cannot do .

Amir trundles in most test matches after his return.   Average speeds in the early 130s

 

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Does not change the fact that in televised games the same irfan and gul outpace the likes of shami , ishanth and dinda by around 10 kilometres .

 

 

I am talking about Indian pacers bowling quicker than Pakistanis  in test matches currently

 

You keep on talking about LOI speeds 4 years back

 

Your " logic "   is amazing                   

Edited December 19, 2017 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Navdeep Saini  has bowled 134 k to 144 k in both innings of a Ranji semifinal

 

Sustaining same speeds even in the last over of a 11 over spell .... and in the last over of a full day

 

Getting zip and bounce off the deck .... good carry too.

 

Most deliveries targeted at top of off stump or just outside ... punctuated by regular bouncers ... perfect pace bowling.

 

Seam movement both ways .... reverse swing when available

 

3 + 4 = 7 wickets in a crucial match.

 

Amazing bowling.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2017 by express bowling

[Rasgulla]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

http://www.hotstar.com/sports/cricket/india-vs-australia-2017/m181620/match-clips/fiery-umesh-rips-out-renshaw/2002001204

 

Highest wickets for an Indian fast bowler in a series at home in decades.

Congrats got wic of newbie who couldn't even make it to Ashes team bench.. That's his worth..  Last time I checked Lords was away match not Home series. Ishant made legends like Ricky dance on the pitch in AUS.. UMESH barely manages to get into Test side these these..

[Vijy]

10 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Amir trundles in most test matches after his return.   Average speeds in the early 130s

 

 

I am talking about Indian pacers bowling quicker than Pakistanis  in test matches currently

 

You keep on talking about LOI speeds 4 years back

 

Your logic is amazing                   

it is rather the absence of logic which is amazing.

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

it is rather the absence of logic which is amazing.

It was a sarcastic statement