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Fast bowling in T20 in Aus is not a measure, it has to be done in SC heat in test matches, let’s not get carried away. But yes gotta admin Pak is backing its faster bowlers while India is not so credit where due.

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8 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Fast bowling in T20 in Aus is not a measure, it has to be done in SC heat in test matches, let’s not get carried away. But yes gotta admin Pak is backing its faster bowlers while India is not so credit where due.

Not just about backing. They have more 140 + bowlers ready for T20 international cricket than any other country. 

 

Even Australia and South Africa dobt have that many options 

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13 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Not just about backing. They have more 140 + bowlers ready for T20 international cricket than any other country. 

 

Even Australia and South Africa dobt have that many options 

Backing is needed for any fast bowler, so that he can go ahead and express himself without worrying much of getting dropped.
I agree that most of Indian fast bowlers are more so suited for red ball cricket, while all the T20 experts that we're having are mostly trundlers who bowl variation deliveries as their stock ball. 

But you also will agree that we're reluctant to try our fast bowlers for some reasons. Umran dropped after couple of matches while Tyagi, Mohsin, Kuldeep, Rajvardhan, Nagarkoti all are stuck in the IPL and domestics for one of the other reasons and never moved ahead.

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On 10/25/2022 at 10:47 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

rather haider ali, they shud go for wasim . He ll provide better death bowling option nd he can bat too 

and he works too.............had him in all my fantasy sides 

 

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23 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Backing is needed for any fast bowler, so that he can go ahead and express himself without worrying much of getting dropped.
I agree that most of Indian fast bowlers are more so suited for red ball cricket, while all the T20 experts that we're having are mostly trundlers who bowl variation deliveries as their stock ball. 

But you also will agree that we're reluctant to try our fast bowlers for some reasons. Umran dropped after couple of matches while Tyagi, Mohsin, Kuldeep, Rajvardhan, Nagarkoti all are stuck in the IPL and domestics for one of the other reasons and never moved ahead.

It's not even just us.  Australia and South Africa back pace to the hilt and we know that. 

 

Yet, in the last couple of years , Pakistan have bowled more 140 + deliveries in this format than any other . And the gap is massive in 2022 alone.

 

That stat which showed that Pakistani bowlers bowled 43 % of deliveries above 140 kph and the next best is England at 18 % .

 

We can do better than we are doing now by giving quick bowlers the long rope but I don't there is any attack that we can pick and match that high percentage of 140 +. Neither can SA or Australia to be fair. 

 

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

It's not even just us.  Australia and South Africa back pace to the hilt and we know that. 

 

Yet, in the last couple of years , Pakistan have bowled more 140 + deliveries in this format than any other . And the gap is massive in 2022 alone.

 

The objective of T20 cricket is not to bowl the highest number of 140 k+ deliveries. 

 

Which is why Australia etc. don't necessarily go for an all quick attack. 

 

Moreover, height and bounce of pacers are very important too.

 

Has Pakistan outperformed other teams ? They haven't.

 

 

25 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

That stat which showed that Pakistani bowlers bowled 43 % of deliveries above 140 kph and the next best is England at 18 % .

 

We can do better than we are doing now by giving quick bowlers the long rope but I don't there is any attack that we can pick and match that high percentage of 140 +. Neither can SA or Australia to be fair. 

 

 

If we can develop a pace attack of

 

Bumrah

Umran / Mohsin

Tyagi / Mohsin

Hardik

 

then we can have a good quality and very quick attack with 2 tall pacers too.

 

I like this attack because all these pacers are good T20 bowlers too and not just quick. (  except Umran who is still a Work in progress  ) 

 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

We can do better than we are doing now by giving quick bowlers the long rope but I don't there is any attack that we can pick and match that high percentage of 140 +. Neither can SA or Australia to be fair. 

Lol,another one here

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

The objective of T20 cricket is not to bowl the highest number of 140 k+ deliveries. 

 

Which is why Australia etc. don't necessarily go for an all quick attack. 

 

Moreover, height and bounce of pacers are very important too.

 

Has Pakistan outperformed other teams ? They haven't.

 

 

 

If we can develop a pace attack of

 

Bumrah

Umran / Mohsin

Tyagi / Mohsin

Hardik

 

then we can have a good quality and very quick attack with 2 tall pacers too.

 

I like this attack because all these pacers are good T20 bowlers too and not just quick. (  except Umran who is still a Work in progress  ) 

 

 

 

 

I never said the objective is to produce a high percentage of 140 + deliveries .

 

Just stated that they do produce and no other nation can at present. 

 

They will even lose to Vatican City tmrw with that attack but they'll do it by bowling the maximum number of 140 + deliveries .

 

1 quality high pace bowler is all that you really need in this format. Anything more is a bonus. Variety and quality are more important imo.

 

 

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