Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, the don said:

He is fragile but at the peak of his powers. His change in run up is the perfect case study on how to optimise pace and potential.

 

 

What I am saying is that ... some other pacers might have matched him for pace if they did not have to play most games in all 3 formats. 

[prudent_kreeda]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Umran still didn't bowl all out today. 

His instincts will tell him to be in control of line & length rather than going all out in his return match. One bad game on return , again he will be out of the team. 

In the last 4-5 months got only couple of matches .   

[rkt.india]

Just now, prudent_kreeda said:

His instincts will tell him to be in control of line & length rather than going all out in his return match. One bad game on return , again he will be out of the team. 

In the last 4-5 months got only couple of matches .   

Yes, once he is settled and more confident, he will go all out. He is going to get quicker. He clocked 157 at the age of 22. He is someone who if stays fit can clock 160+.

[Lone Wolf]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Umran still didn't bowl all out today. 

Eden Park dimensions probably didn't allow him to...  Upar se debut & know the criticism genuine pacers face in India if they go expensive. 

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, Mosher said:

Is that Murali Kartik on the commentary? Chutiya started crying about "control" the moment Umran went for a few in his last over. Ex cricketer clowns like these are reasons why our selectors keep selecting "accurate" trundlers.

If he couldn't control his hair loss,he shouldn't talk about control of flow of runs

Bloody hypocrite

[Suhaan]

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Umran still didn't bowl all out today. 

Yeah he wasn't giving it all

[Vilander]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

Shardul misses a straight ball that was played off Umran and it goes for a  4.

 

7 extra runs that Umran had to concede till his 6th over due to poor fielding and poor field placement.

 

4 hours ago, mani sha said:

Watching umran bowl makes me wonder how useless chetan sharma is . This guy with shardul in place of boobi and express patel might have helped us go to finals . 
 

i am sure as we approach wc , we will be back to boobi and Harshal express for the renowned slow spin bowling they do . 

 

This bit is obvious to everyone except those in charge. 

[Number]

3 hours ago, the don said:

Wood bowled 34 balls over 150 kph at the t20 worldcup. Lockie just 7. 
Wood is much quicker on average.

 

Yeah but their fastest are matchable. 

[rkt.india]

23 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

The amount of cricket we play, we need at least 6 quality pacers available at any point of time for tests and 50 overs.

 

 

We mix formats a lot. Someone like Arshdeep who is not an x factor bowler is picked for ODIs based on T20s while his list record isn't that good. Requirement for ODI isn't same as T20s. 

[tapandrun]

Wood rt now is at the peak of his powers, there was a time when he was hardly touching 150 kmph.

 

Lockie  has always bowled in the range 140- 155, 155 being max, his slower are at 125-132.

 

As for today there was no support, let alone taking wkts they were not able to stop 4/6 when Umran was bowling with some hostility. 

 

 

[Suhaan]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

Shows how correct IPL Speed Guns are.

Icc borrows IPL speed guns for their events Case closed

[Suhaan]

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We mix formats a lot. Someone like Arshdeep who is not an x factor bowler is picked for ODIs based on T20s while his list record isn't that good. Requirement for ODI isn't same as T20s. 

There is lot of time to adjust to Arshdeep type of bowlers in odis

I won't be surprised if he's given a test cap very soon,as they have a false perception about him being another all format bowler like they boozed with Boobie's case

 

[vayuu1]

24 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Once the ball doesnt swing or spin and the cutters dont work our bowling just falls apart.This is where we need height and pace  and slower balls(not just cutters off the pitch) with tight accuracy and brilliant fielding.

TM needs to understand this u cant have too many same type of pace bowlers sorry for saying this but amongst bhuvi,chahar and shardul only one can be in the squad not all or two arshdeep i understand is very raw but problem with him is,he is looking to put the ball rather than hitting the deck ,on such deliveries these floaty type deliveries are going to be smashed 9 out of 10 times, he needs to take advantage of his height u can get away with lesser movement by hitting the pitch but not by gentle release,he is putting effort in his short balls but his fuller balls two needs to hit the deck harder, shardul looked so unfit,that he needs to work on his fitness also which genius plays just 4 seamers in NZ siraj and sen should have been there,

Ideally ur 5 main seamers should have been

Siraj

Arshdeep

Umran

Sen

Chahar

A seam bowler in siraj

A left armer tall guy in arshdeep

A skiddy genuine quick guy in umran 

A fast tall guy in sen 

A swinging medium pacer who can bat in chahar

All different bowler could easily have dropped chahal here as he adds nothing here but our TM management is oblivious or duffer i dunno,sab changes fati main karte hain 

[prudent_kreeda]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

We mix formats a lot. Someone like Arshdeep who is not an x factor bowler is picked for ODIs based on T20s while his list record isn't that good. Requirement for ODI isn't same as T20s. 

Bowling requirement for ODI is simple - Mostly Test match bowling for first 40 overs & T20 death bowling in last 10 and players should be picked accordingly - 

 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, MultiB48 said:

We dont like X factor we like humble pies.

We have actually become England of early 90s not even India of then

Very ordinary very safe no intent to take the initiative

[Need4Speed]

Boycott this fuddu team and watch ipl only…hopefully they will play more raw pace bowlers and make it exciying to watch

Edited November 25, 2022 by Need4Speed

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

The amount of cricket we play, we need at least 6 quality pacers available at any point of time for tests and 50 overs.

 

My 6 for tests and ODIs ..  

 

Bumrah

Siraj

Prasidh

Sen

Umran

Shami ( only for tests ) 

Chahar ( only for ODIs )

 

Develop Tyagi to replace an aging Shami in all 3 formats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Suhaan]

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/i-try-to-learn-hard-length-deliveries-from-you-learning-knuckleball-from-bhuvi-bhai-arshdeep-tells-siraj-6453505.htl

 

 

He's been told to name Boobie bhaiya before odi opener,stage is set for Boobie bhaiya opening herbal non injurious harmless overs in WC23

 

 

 

[Sandz]

9 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Agree.  Should be for T20 only . I think for 50 overs apart from Bhumra, Siraj , next 2 of pool should be from Kuldeep Sen, Umran, & Prasid & may be Mavi. 

Not sure about Prasiddh, last time I saw him play he showed no josh, jazba, junoon or aggression, necessary ingredients for a fast bowler.

[Lone Wolf]

12 minutes ago, Sandz said:

Not sure about Prasiddh, last time I saw him play he showed no josh, jazba, junoon or aggression, necessary ingredients for a fast bowler.

Kiwi commies scottie Stevenson & Shane bond said Umran had spunk in him  when he bowled a fast bouncer to Latham & stared at him after Thakur misfiedled a boundary previous ball. 

Bond was repeatedly praising Umran..