Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Rightarmfast]

Kerala vs Assam- Asif is making the ball talk. 

How quick is Asif? The ball is just flying away to the keeper.

Edited December 8, 2025 by Rightarmfast

[Nikhil_cric]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Look at the links below at Shami's ER for the first half of his career in tests and ODIs.

 

Same as his entire career.

 

He has never really sprayed the ball. He has always gone for runs in some ODI innings because he is not good at bowling variations and may get predictable in the end overs. It is not because he sprayed the ball.

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/481896.html?class=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2018;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/481896.html?class=2;spanmax1=31+Dec+2018;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

 

Does not have to be intentional. If you are not used to bowling accurately at pace for 15 to 20 overs a day then it is possible that you may end up bowling slower if you try to improve accuracy in a match.

 

There is no substitute to bowling and bowling many many overs with pace and accuracy combined. 

 

Pace bowling is not for the lazy.

I'm not talking about his economy rates. I've seen line data for Shami and his lines were never as good as it became during the 2022 IPL and he basically maintained that until the World Cup. 

 

 

[Suhaan]

51 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Watched Ashok bowling today. This was the first instance I have seen him bowling properly today. My thoughts are: He is 'quickish'. Sharpish. Not out and out fast. Perhaps around 141-143ish. He is pretty well built. However, I feel he sprays a lot of energy in his action. I think there is a scope to gather his action to make it linear. But he was bowling too short of a length. Not sure whether it was today, or that is his general tendency.

Yes ,fails to tranfer momentum in his delivery stride

[raki05]

3 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Zaheer is the fastest left armer ever ,no one hasn't yet broken his record of 173kph ,he chose greatest stage to deliver that ball that is CWC 2011

Starc and Mitch Johnson are just posers

Mitchel stark just missed by 2 kmph when india toured Australia last month.

[rkt.india]

Sushant Mishra 3/21 in the same match.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I'm not talking about his economy rates. I've seen line data for Shami and his lines were never as good as it became during the 2022 IPL and he basically maintained that until the World Cup. 

 

 

The topic being discussed wasn't whether Shami improved his lines later on. ( He surely did as most do ).

 

The topic was whether Shami was accurate enough in the first half of his career. He surely was. He never sprayed the ball like Prasidh or Harshit do, especially Prasidh. 

[Nikhil_cric]

36 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

The topic being discussed wasn't whether Shami improved his lines later on. ( He surely did as most do ).

 

The topic was whether Shami was accurate enough in the first half of his career. He surely was. He never sprayed the ball like Prasidh or Harshit do, especially Prasidh. 

 

 

And I didn't compare them directly. Im just saying young Indian bowlers don't show the ability to bowl a good line - especially the ones with pace - Mayank Yadav was an exception..

 

And Rana bowled very good lines for the most part. He didn't spray it around a lot. 

 

The pitches were so flat and often with dew that even accurate deliveries were getting smashed. 

 

Only Prasidh sprayed 

[Rightarmfast]

I feel Nabi is ready for international cricket. Anymore delay, and we will lose one more fast bowler. 

Sure, he lacks that extra 5k's in his bowling. But skill wise, I think he is there. 

[deepdynamo]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

I feel Nabi is ready for international cricket. Anymore delay, and we will lose one more fast bowler. 

Sure, he lacks that extra 5k's in his bowling. But skill wise, I think he is there. 

 

Just one fear- hope he doesn't turn out like Anshul Kamboj.

Kamboj set the last domestic season on fire while Nabi has done this season.

Both are similar pace- 130ish.

 

One good thing though is that Nabi can bat and contribute in lower order.

[singhvivek141]

8 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Kerala vs Assam- Asif is making the ball talk. 

How quick is Asif? The ball is just flying away to the keeper.

Asif was always fast.

Has clocked upto 148k in IPL bowling for Chennai.

But he is a straight arrow and sprays the ball alot...he is just another Tushar Deshpande.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Just one fear- hope he doesn't turn out like Anshul Kamboj.

Kamboj set the last domestic season on fire while Nabi has done this season.

Both are similar pace- 130ish.

 

One good thing though is that Nabi can bat and contribute in lower order.

 

Sorry that is deal breaker. Only way 130 kph should be picked is if they can bat at 8 and above.

[tapandrun]

10 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Kerala vs Assam- Asif is making the ball talk. 

How quick is Asif? The ball is just flying away to the keeper.

He was quick  in t20s ::140+ kmph, effort ball going to 145 kmph. But he wasted time in CSK. Hardly got games.

 

Pace may have decreased now ~140 kmph and effort ball may touch 144 kmph 

Edited December 8, 2025 by tapandrun

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Just one fear- hope he doesn't turn out like Anshul Kamboj.

Kamboj set the last domestic season on fire while Nabi has done this season.

Both are similar pace- 130ish.

 

One good thing though is that Nabi can bat and contribute in lower order.

That kind of pace does not work at intl level, some of the pitches he bowled this year were too much in favour of fast bowlers.

He is skillful but those skill does not matter much in intnl cricket if not bowling at lively pace.

 

 

[tapandrun]

16 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Asif was always fast.

Has clocked upto 148k in IPL bowling for Chennai.

But he is a straight arrow and sprays the ball alot...he is just another Tushar Deshpande.

They gave him 1-2 match here and there, use to bowl couple of good overs and then go for runs.

this happens to all bowlers in ipl coming from domestics 

[Rightarmfast]

2 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Just one fear- hope he doesn't turn out like Anshul Kamboj.

Kamboj set the last domestic season on fire while Nabi has done this season.

Both are similar pace- 130ish.

 

One good thing though is that Nabi can bat and contribute in lower order.

Anshul Kamboj doesnt have it in him. Nabi is a little different. Don't think he is bad. He is definitely a better bowler than someone like Arshdeep, who doesnt bowl quick either. But agreed that if we have 140+ bowlers, they deserve the place. Lekin abhi Nabi form me hai. 

[Rightarmfast]

Btw, just saw a video from some cricket expert yesterday that Sakib was clocked at 150k's. Cant verify, but certainly saw the video stating that. 

[Nikhil_cric]

4 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

I feel Nabi is ready for international cricket. Anymore delay, and we will lose one more fast bowler. 

Sure, he lacks that extra 5k's in his bowling. But skill wise, I think he is there. 

Too slow and doesn't hit the deck hard enough for Test cricket imo. 

 

 

[Rightarmfast]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Too slow and doesn't hit the deck hard enough for Test cricket imo. 

 

 

Have you seen him clocked? What's his pace? Waise what about Bhuvi and the gang? Ye log aa sakte hain, to ek chance to banta hai. Jagrata me prasad to sab ko milni chahie boss. 

Edited December 8, 2025 by Rightarmfast

[Nikhil_cric]

2 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Have you seen him clocked? What's his pace? Waise what about Bhuvi and the gang? Ye log aa sakte hain, to ek chance to banta hai. Jagrata me prasad to sab ko milni chahie boss. 

I've seen him clocked somewhere(maybe Duleep Trophy last year) and he was max. 82 mph or something. 

[tapandrun]

12 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Btw, just saw a video from some cricket expert yesterday that Sakib was clocked at 150k's. Cant verify, but certainly saw the video stating that. 

Yes , I read some reference of Sakib's interview

 

https://www.awazthevoice.in/personality-news/kkr-pacer-sakib-hussain-s-rise-is-a-story-of-ambition-and-grit-29095.html

 

He said, "It is nothing short of a dream to bowl to Rohit Sharma sir, Virat Kohli sir and MS Dhoni sir. My dream is to bowl to Virat Kohli sir and help my team win. I bowled at 145 km at that time; today it's 150 per hour but I hope to take it beyond 150."

 

these reports are mostly are dodgy 

 

Edited December 8, 2025 by tapandrun