thongale Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 On his reported deliveries (which were around 30 deliveries). In my view, they should also test every bowler's normal non reported deliveries (a few of them) so that we can get an idea of where they stand when they don't make special efforts.There is every chance that a respectable proportion who has clean actions will be breaking the limit in effort balls.
maniac Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Nsei30eArec Not Conclusive but His action looks pretty straight here :giggle:
SLICKR392 Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 There is every chance that a respectable proportion who has clean actions will be breaking the limit in effort balls. They will barred from bowling that delivery. Like Samuels. Whereas the likes of Murali and Ajmal throws every single delivery in their spell.
thongale Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 They will barred from bowling that delivery. Like Samuels. Whereas the likes of Murali and Ajmal throws every single delivery in their spell.You have no proof to prove that. McGrath and Pollock had extensions larger than Muralis's off break FFS. And how can you identify the effort ball? It may be the one bit fatser, a bouncer, a yorker, or just a one where they bend their backs a bit more.
SLICKR392 Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Oh! My bad. Murali was not a chucker. He was never called off for a no ball by any pecker sucking Umpire in his life.
hhhhdmt Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Wasim and waqar had two of the cleanest actions that you will ever see. Anyone who calls them chuckers needs to be admitted into a mental hospital. Saqlain also had a clean action, NO ONE ever questioned it and its because it was clean The amount of anti Pak bias here is amazing. I have always said Ajmal had a dodgy action but got away with it due to ICC. But Saqlain, Akram and waqar as chuckers? Get your eyes checkef
hhhhdmt Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 You will never see any cricketing expert ever questioning Saqlain's action, you truly have to be an idiot to believe otherwise
hhhhdmt Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Btw, i do not believe in the crazy conspiracy theories that dome others believe in. The Icc is to blamr, however. It is clear that they should not have cleared him 5 years ago. Clearly their testing was inadequate. Its a good thing for cricket that they are finally sorting it out.
sensible-indian Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Wasim and waqar had two of the cleanest actions that you will ever see. Anyone who calls them chuckers needs to be admitted into a mental hospital. Saqlain also had a clean action, NO ONE ever questioned it and its because it was clean The amount of anti Pak bias here is amazing. I have always said Ajmal had a dodgy action but got away with it due to ICC. But Saqlain, Akram and waqar as chuckers? Get your eyes checkef I agree. Wasim, Waqar and Saqlain are clean. There is no question about it. Saqlain is the greatest ODI spinner ever (Murali is his competition but Saqlain had a perfectly clean action).
diga Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_307134/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=oeGF6mUF Ajmal recorded an astonishing 40 degrees with a relatively small standard deviation of 2.5 degrees at the National Cricket Centre in Brisbane, according to a 23-page report by the NCC on the tests last month. The rules allow for an elbow extension of 15 degrees. :WTF:
Detonator Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_307134/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=oeGF6mUF :WTF: 40 degrees? :yikes: wth was he thinking?
mishra Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Chucking at 15 degree or 40 degree is simply chucking. Its about time chuck-mal fans accepted that cheat Chuckmal, even if he comes back will only chuck at less than 15 degrees.
vvvslaxman Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 You will never see any cricketing expert ever questioning Saqlain's action' date=' you truly have to be an idiot to believe otherwise[/quote'] His doosras barely straightened let alone go the other way completely. You can do only that much without chucking action. Murali's doosra started turning like leg breaks, Ajmal followed suit. Both of them chucked . Saqlain's doosra would not be that effective in this era as batsmen are much more adept to tiny variations. I would say Narine's doosra is similar.. except he has kink in his action as well.
CSK Fan Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 From dawn http://www.dawn.com/news/1131543/revealed-ajmals-over-by-over-test-results Revealed: Ajmal's over-by-over test results The over-by-over testing: 1st: Over the wicket: Average elbow extension 39 degrees 2nd: Over the wicket: 37 degrees 3rd: Around the wicket: 41 degrees 4th: Around the wicket (wide of the crease): 41 degrees 5th: Around the wicket: 42 degrees 6th: Around the wicket, doosra: 40 degrees 7th: Around the wicket, quicker balls: 38 degrees 8th: Over the wicket, quicker balls: 42 degrees He bowled 8 overs and all deliveries were in the same range (standard deviation of 2.5 degrees). I doubt this is only due to detoriation of his action During testing, Ajmal bowled offspin from over and around the wicket, the doosra, and quicker balls. Pakistan Cricket Board chief medical officer Dr. Sohail Salim attended the testing, during which Ajmal was monitored by 27 cameras, including two high-speed cinematic cameras and three high-speed mobile video cameras
putrevus Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 how the heck did anyone clear this guy in 2009, it is same like Murali beating some crappy test in lab and then chucking his way to 800 wickets. 41 degrees OMG no wonder batsmen never had time to loft this guy, he was simply too much. Pakistanis players like Imran Khan , Wasim, Waqar had finest actions .
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 He was darting the ball and by chucking it gaining spin on thoss darts.
Crookbond Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 From dawn http://www.dawn.com/news/1131543/revealed-ajmals-over-by-over-test-results Revealed: Ajmal's over-by-over test results He bowled 8 overs and all deliveries were in the same range (standard deviation of 2.5 degrees). I doubt this is only due to detoriation of his action Reported by Cricinfo too. This is just ridiculous!
CSK Fan Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Reported by Cricinfo too. This is just ridiculous! Exactly! No way is this only as a result of deterioration of action. That the previous lab passed him is the biggest wtf
vvvslaxman Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Except for Pakistanis , Ajmal bowling looks like A+ chucking to a naked eye. lol. You don't need protractor or anything to measure. He would most likely be banned from bowling in a local village club match. Such an obvious chucker.
hhhhdmt Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Except for Pakistanis ' date=' Ajmal bowling looks like A+ chucking to a naked eye. lol. You don't need protractor or anything to measure. He would most likely be banned from bowling in a local village club match. Such an obvious chucker.[/quote'] I am a Pakistani and i knew that he wad chucking, but the icc had cleared him. Icc is at fault
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