India's Mars Orbiter Mission (Mangalyaan) tracking

[yoda]

She also said a lot of other things and that was just one line unlike it being repeated again and again at every opportunity like how the media did it.

That's not the only thing reported by the media. There is a ton of info about the mission and cost comparison with Gravity is just one of them.

[seedhi]

She also said a lot of other things and that was just one line unlike it being repeated again and again at every opportunity like how the media did it.

Have you read of anyone in ISRO complain about the favorable comparison regarding the cost of the mission? I would say it is a point worth repeating and emphasizes the efficiency and cost effectiveness of ISRO missions. The western news sources are having to make an effort to explain why such missions by NASA cost so much more. The comparison may not be fair to NASA but it is good to see them on the defensive a bit.

[hhunaeh]

That's not the only thing reported by the media. There is a ton of info about the mission and cost comparison with Gravity is just one of them.

It is not just another detail. It is given unnecessary prominence and there are there are far too many articles and headlines talking about gravity and India's mars mission.

[coffee_rules]

How about this for a cost comparison...

[BlackMamba]

How about this for a cost comparison...

Can i hitch a hike from Chembur to Colaba on Mangalyaan? :cantstop:

[gattaca]

More specifically, Mallus. The previous 3 ISRO heads (including the current one), are all from the land of the coconut. :dontknow: Is there an hidden Mallu quota in ISRO? :hitler: #NotFair

Mallus better than tamils as seen on this forum :giggle:

[hhunaeh]

Some private and public sector companies involved in the mars mission,

• Godrej's aerospace division----made the spacecraft's engine and thruster components
• Larsen & Toubro, which manufactured motor casings and the antenna
• Thrissur-based Vajra Rubber
• Hindustan Aeronautics --delivered the bare satellite structure and a deck panel to Isro

India reaches Red Planet, but at home red tape binds space firms

(Reuters) - As India celebrated becoming the first Asian nation to reach Mars, S.M. Vaidya, head of business at conglomerate Godrej's aerospace division that made the spacecraft's engine and thruster components, sounded surprisingly downbeat. The mission was, indeed, a major achievement, he said, and one of which the state-run Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) should be proud. But a single trip to Mars was not enough to sustain a promising yet relatively small industry, he added, and ISRO should be doing more to foster it. "Unless they fly more, they will not buy more from us," Vaidya told Reuters, shortly after news broke on Wednesday that Mangalyaan, Hindi for "Mars craft", had entered into orbit around the Red Planet about 10 months after launching. "How many Mars missions are you going to have?" India's successful mission, completed on a shoestring budget of $74 million, has boosted its prestige in the global space race and, back on Earth, raised the profile of Indian companies involved in the project. But Godrej and some other firms are frustrated at what they say is the slow execution of projects and lack of government support, which are hampering India's efforts to compete with China and Russia as a cheaper option for launching satellites. ISRO did not reply to questions for this article. The Mangalyaan was built in 15 months with two-thirds of its parts manufactured by domestic firms such as Godrej & Boyce and India's largest engineering company, Larsen & Toubro (LART.NS). Prime Minister Narendra Modi has said he wants to expand India's 50-year-old space programme. The government has increased funding for space research by 50 percent to almost $1 billion this financial year. But the programme is still small, and the small number of launches limits the growth potential of private companies that supply them. Between 2007 and 2012, ISRO accomplished about half of its planned 60 missions, government data showed. The government cited "development complexity" as the reason for the delay in some missions. Between 2012 and 2017 the target is 58 missions. The agency has completed 17 missions so far, and ISRO did not say why the number remained low. Some company executives and experts do not see that changing any time soon, with the absence of heavy rocket launchers, too few launch facilities and bureaucratic delays hampering growth. MARS MEANS MORE FOR SOME Larsen & Toubro, which manufactured motor casings and the antenna for India's Mars probe, is more positive about working with the ISRO, saying it has opened doors to other commercial opportunities. Space projects have helped enhance its expertise in other sectors such as defence and aerospace, including missile technology and welding, said M. V. Kotwal, president of L&T's heavy engineering division. "Volumes of business (from ISRO) have been relatively small, of the order of $40 million over the last five years, but the technological fallout in terms of high-precision manufacture has been considerable," Kotwal told Reuters. L&T has been working with ISRO for over four decades and between 1-5 percent of its heavy engineering division's revenues come from ISRO. Godrej wanted to explore opportunities with U.S. and European space programmes after its success in India, but Vaidya said government-to-government clearances posed a hurdle. "We don't want to be only dependent on ISRO," he said. Now Godrej plans to shift focus from space technology to the aviation export industry, catering to the likes of Boeing Co (BA.N) and Airbus and trimming ISRO's contribution to their aerospace business to 40 percent from 70 percent currently. HANDFUL OF LAUNCHES India's space programme began in the early 1960s and the country has launched 30 Indian and 40 foreign satellites. The programme developed mainly after Western powers imposed sanctions following India's first nuclear weapons test in 1974. Still, it remains a small player in a global space industry estimated to be worth more than $300 billion a year. India performs only a handful of launches annually, compared with 20 or more carried out by the United States, Russia and China, according to the Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (IDSA), a defence ministry think-tank. ISRO has struggled to develop heavier launchers to put larger payloads into space, which could attract more business from foreign nations and help it compete. Progress slowed in the 1990s when, under U.S. pressure, Russia refused to transfer cryogenic engine technology to India that could have helped develop a heavier capacity Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV). After spending over a decade developing the complex engine, India successfully launched its first GSLV powered with an indigenous cryogenic engine earlier this year. "They have to make that (GSLV) reliable ... we need three or four launches to claim it is efficient," said Mayank Vahia, a scientist at the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research. Vahia recommended that ISRO allowed private companies more freedom to develop space technologies, saying the organisation was excessively conservative. "ISRO needs to put more faith in the industry to deliver the kind of technology they want," he said. ISRO said last year it planned to bring in the private sector to produce Polar Satellite Launch Vehicles (PSLVs) within five years, allowing it to focus on research. Ajay Lele of the IDSA said the privatisation of programmes with a proven track record, such as the PSLV, should have started sooner. Space startups also complained about the lack of state support. Susmita Mohanty, head of Earth2Orbit (E2O), said India lacked the kind of support given in the United States, such as NASA's Small Business Innovation Research programme which offers funds for research and development of technologies that fulfil its needs. "With the new pro-business government in Delhi, we are hopeful that we can put the spotlight on 'space commerce', not just 'space diplomacy'," she told Reuters via email.

MOM puts L&T, Godrej & other suppliers over the moon

On Wednesday, when Thrissur-based Vajra Rubber’s marketing director Kannan P S called Indian Space Research Organisation officials to congratulate them on the success of Mars Orbiter Mission entering the planet’s orbit, he was asked to be prepared for much larger orders now. The Kerala-based little-known company is one among the 200-odd firms that supplied some parts or the other to Isro for the mission. The mission cost all of $74 million (Rs 450 crore) — a fraction of the $671-million (Rs 4,026 crore) that America’s National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) spent on its MAVEN spacecraft, which had reached Mars earlier this week. Notably, Isro also succeeded in its first attempt, which is no mean feat considering that those countries managed to make it only after several attempts. (JOURNEY TO RED PLANET) “What Isro has demonstrated is the reliability of our system, and we should be able to leverage it now for launching remote-sensing and commercial satellites for others,” said S M Vaidya, business head of Godrej's aerospace division, which supplied the rocket’s engine and fuel-powered thrusters for the Indian Mars mission. Antrix Corporation, the commercial wing of Isro, has got a big boost with this success, and it now expects large orders from the global market to build or launch commercial satellites. Isro has already launched three satellites in the past year for French and British companies. “These are only stray examples till now; this should become routine and we should see more such satellites being launched every month. That is where we see the big boost to Indian private industries and Isro,” said Vaidya. According to him, it could open a Rs 5,000 crore a year opportunity. These companies also expect that the success of the Mars mission will fetch them more orders from the defence sector. Engineering company Larsen & Toubro (L&T), which has been a supplier to Isro for the past four decades, has the same view. “It (mission to Mars) has helped build a formidable image for India, and such businesses from other countries are naturally expected to grow in large volume,” says M V Kotwal, president (heavy engineering) at L&T, which has made parts worth $5.7 million for Isro in recent years. L&T has also supplied $240 million worth of parts so far to ITER, an inter-governmental science experiment, which is building a thermonuclear reactor in southern France. It is not just the private-sector companies that are benefiting. Public-sector enterprise Hindustan Aeronautics, too, has got a big boost. The company delivered a bare satellite structure and a deck panel to Isro. “Our differentiator is the cost effectiveness and reliability, as in the first attempt itself we have been successful, while other countries had to make several attempts. It talks about the quality of the work that we are doing and the components that are going inside,” said R K Tyagi, chairman of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. “It will naturally boost orders from other countries benefiting all the suppliers.”

[beetle]

Love that Gajra....:icflove:

[Ram]

Mallus better than tamils as seen on this forum :giggle:

[SLICKR392]

Mallus better than tamils as seen on this forum :giggle:

:two_thumbs_up:

[Precambrian]

More specifically, Mallus. The previous 3 ISRO heads (including the current one), are all from the land of the coconut. :dontknow: Is there an hidden Mallu quota in ISRO? :hitler: #NotFair

Nobody beats Mallus when it comes to "emigration" :cantstop:

[Old guy]

:two_thumbs_up:

:icflove:

[beetle]

Thread hijacked by Bhakts and Kambhakts.

:haha::haha:

[Texan]

Here's an interesting comparison: Laxmi Mittal's younger brother's daughter's wedding last year reportedly cost about Rs 505 crore. In comparison, the MOM mission cost about Rs 450 crore.

[Sachin=GOD]

Here's an interesting comparison: Laxmi Mittal's younger brother's daughter's wedding last year reportedly cost about Rs 505 crore. In comparison, the MOM mission cost about Rs 450 crore.

Another interesting comparison: The Statue of Unity being built in Gujarat will cost more than 2000 crore - thats more than 4 times the cost of India's Mars mission.

[Aaku]

^ :omg:

[Texan]

Another interesting comparison: The Statue of Unity being built in Gujarat will cost more than 2000 crore - thats more than 4 times the cost of India's Mars mission.

And will probably return double that amount in the first 10 years of tourism returns.

[vvvslaxman]

More specifically, Mallus. The previous 3 ISRO heads (including the current one), are all from the land of the coconut. :dontknow: Is there an hidden Mallu quota in ISRO? :hitler: #NotFair

iSRO is dominated by Tamils . Been there.

[kubrickian]

iSRO is dominated by Tamils . Been there.

Its ISRO - Indian Space Research Organization, not Tamil, Mallu, Oriya, Bengali, Punjabi, Timbaktoo or whatever. Nobody gives a rat's behind which linguistic community makes up most of ISRO.

[mishra]

Mallus better than tamils as seen on this forum :giggle:

:roti: