asterix Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 So' date=' giving an opinion is now a "certificate"? I'm not even 0.5% of what Kalam was or may not will ever will be but certainly I wasn't giving any certificate.[/quote'] Let everybody give their opinions... Please don't patronise as you always tend to do... Nobody tells you how you are presenting 'your opinion' whether it's intellectual or not.. :icflove:
Texan Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Anybody can comment on the scientific ability of Kalam saheb but Kalam was an extraordinary human being' date=' and we all know what Khan was.[/quote'] Well said. Yes, we don't really know how good a scientist he was indeed. Only his colleagues will be able to shed light on that. But, as a human being, he was simply incredible.
Detonator Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Well said. Yes' date=' we don't really know how good a scientist he was indeed. Only his colleagues will be able to shed light on that. But, as a human being, he was simply incredible.[/quote'] Born in a poor fisherman family, studied by woking part time in odd jobs, failed to acheive his dream of becoming a pilot at a young age, and the rest is history. A fairy tale of sheer hard work.
Khalpat Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 :wall: Example' date=' example!!!!! Don't generalize.[/quote'] Why not? Did you not generalized when you said: One more example, if someone is having a morning walk with his father and an idiot starts abusing his father for no reason. How would an intellectual rebuttal be and how would a non-intellectual rebute?
Detonator Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Why not? Did you not generalized when you said: One more example, if someone is having a morning walk with his father and an idiot starts abusing his father for no reason. How would an intellectual rebuttal be and how would a non-intellectual rebute? There is no such thing as intellectual rebuttal. You don't have to be an intellectual to find evidence for a counterargument. For your question, the emotion and instinct will take over.
Texan Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 In terms of science' date=' Kalam made touch above average contributions - IMO. [/quote'] Can you explain with facts and figures how you came up with this assessment?
Crookbond Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Come on saar, I m referring to A Q Khan. I m not sure about the scale or yard stick you are using, which classifies Dr. APJ Kalam's contributions as 'above average", which basically means "not bad". You are using below-average effect. That's the reason I just removed that comment - I thought it was directed to me. Global impact was the metric. Let everybody give their opinions... Please don't patronise as you always tend to do... Nobody tells you how you are presenting 'your opinion' whether it's intellectual or not.. :icflove: EVERY time you play the same card. Everyone is giving their opinion; I am giving mine on yours - that is what this forum is meant for. But, misrepresenting someone's opinion is intellectual dishonesty and troll like behavior. My earlier comment explained what my opinion was; that isn't called patronizing - that is adding further explanation to a comment which frankly didn't need explanation.
Crookbond Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Can you explain with facts and figures how you came up with this assessment? In terms of science (or any field for that matter), your peers determine your worth as a scientist in the contemporary era. Your work would be cited and influential enough to be used across geo-political boundaries. That is what makes Einstein, Leibnitz or Benjamin Franklin great scientists. I find it difficult to fit Kalam in that bracket. Let me alter my statement a bit. Kalam will be one of the best scientists India has ever produced but he wouldn't be recognized as a great scientist across the world.
diga Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 ^not sure if he was allowed to publish his research as he was mostly doing classified research.. but I think he has written a text book on fluid mechanics, which is noteworthy
zep1706 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 At least he was not a thief and a proliferator like AQ Khan. :haha:
jusarrived Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 One thing which is thought in India is not to bad mouth some ones whos dead & generally you will not see any one do that here even if hate a person ..little things
Texan Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 In terms of science (or any field for that matter), your peers determine your worth as a scientist in the contemporary era. Your work would be cited and influential enough to be used across geo-political boundaries. That is what makes Einstein, Leibnitz or Benjamin Franklin great scientists. I find it difficult to fit Kalam in that bracket. Let me alter my statement a bit. Kalam will be one of the best scientists India has ever produced but he wouldn't be recognized as a great scientist across the world. Ok. That is a fair statement.
sandeep Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 "Photo chor" talking about an ex-President, a man who personified humility and pursuit and distribution of knowledge for all. Typical "paindoo" attitude. Video search "photo chor khan" for this guy's aukat.:winky:
Gollum Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Let us leave this topic for another day. For the next few days let us cherish Dr Kalam's life and get inspired by him.
surajmal Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Ignore the resident numbnut. Kalam was an engineer extraordinaire. One of the primary figures behind SLV whose derivative - PSLV has been the backbone of Antrix/ISRO. He pretty much is singularly responsible for overseeing the birthing of the entire gamut of missile systems you seen in Indian Armed Forces today. There has been been a tech embargo on India (in the critcal fields). So Indian Scientists and Engineers have to essentially reinvent the wheel. If that is considered "average", then Newton was a thief since Differential Calculus was developed in India 3 centuries prior to principia being released. (actually I guarantee that someone in the near future will connect the dots between Kerala school of mathematics, Jesuits, European Institutions of learning).
vvvslaxman Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 The reason why we Indians even care about what this vermin has to say?
vvvslaxman Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 ON another note, Kalam is 99% celebrated not because he is a scientist , just you know.
asterix Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I'm not sure why some Indians Indians are worried of any trolling of AQ Khan in this topic...
surajmal Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 ON another note' date=' Kalam is 99% celebrated not because he is a scientist , just you know.[/quote'] Disagree. He has had a key role to play in 3 of handful of institutions in India that do R&D of any sort.
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