jalebi_bhai Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 7 hours ago, Tibarn said: Apparently ISIS Very interesting. There are multiple possibilities imo: a) It's a legitimate and autonomous ISIS attack. b) It's a coordinated attack by the ultra-radicalized elements of the army/isi (or their terror proxies) and ISIS on a dispensable minority to carry on playing their double game. c) It's a coordinated attack by local, anti-army terrorist groups and ISIS. I'm leaning towards b. There is an internal tussle within the Pak army between the Whiskey and Mullah Generals. This might just be part of that turf war. 7 hours ago, Tibarn said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 18 hours ago, jalebi_bhai said: Very interesting. There are multiple possibilities imo: a) It's a legitimate and autonomous ISIS attack. b) It's a coordinated attack by the ultra-radicalized elements of the army/isi (or their terror proxies) and ISIS on a dispensable minority to carry on playing their double game. c) It's a coordinated attack by local, anti-army terrorist groups and ISIS. I'm leaning towards b. There is an internal tussle within the Pak army between the Whiskey and Mullah Generals. This might just be part of that turf war. Some of the Baloch separatist leaders have claimed that ISIS and the army are working in conjunction in Balochistan. That's quite insane, since ISIS plans on taking over Pakistan as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Tibarn said: Some of the Baloch separatist leaders have claimed that ISIS and the army are working in conjunction in Balochistan. That's quite insane, since ISIS plans on taking over Pakistan as well. Thats only sane thing. You cant spell ISIS without ISI. Bot have same ultimate goal. Creation of a Sunni only Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 8 hours ago, Tibarn said: Some of the Baloch separatist leaders have claimed that ISIS and the army are working in conjunction in Balochistan. That's quite insane, since ISIS plans on taking over Pakistan as well. The plot thickens then, if Trump's declaration that ISIS is a creation of the Obama administration holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 20 hours ago, mishra said: Thats only sane thing. You cant spell ISIS without ISI. Bot have same ultimate goal. Creation of a Sunni only Pakistan The common Pakistani and Pakistani soldier may be completely brainwashed, but the Generals are rational characters. They should know all their land holdings, etc are in jeopardy if ISIS gets involved in any significant way in Pakistan. 13 hours ago, jalebi_bhai said: The plot thickens then, if Trump's declaration that ISIS is a creation of the Obama administration holds true. There are wikileaks leaks that show that Clinton was aware that Saudi Arabia and Qatar were funding ISIS, while at the same time accepting government donations from those countries into her Clinton Foundation. That shows a conflict of interest on the part of the SoS. There is also an American 4-Star general, Jack Keane, who claims that Obama wouldn't listen to any of the US generals' advice on how to fight ISIS, fight in Iraq, and fight in Afghanistan. One could construe that Obama was at least reluctant to fight ISIS. Edited November 15, 2016 by Tibarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, Tibarn said: There are wikileaks leaks that show that Clinton was aware that Saudi Arabia and Qatar were funding ISIS, while at the same time accepting government donations from those countries into her Clinton Foundation. That shows a conflict of interest on the part of the SoS. There is also an American 4-Star general, Jack Keane, who claims that Obama wouldn't listen to any of the US generals' advice on how to fight ISIS, fight in Iraq, and fight in Afghanistan. One could construe that Obama was at least reluctant to fight ISIS. Hardly surprising. Neither Obama nor HRC have even called them out for what they are, radical Islamic terrorists. Obama still calls them ISIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 GreenBros pant-gasming in their shalwars, lapping up propaganda from their green gang (military) about some submarine BS. Its so LOL-wa. Paplu Awaam can't understand that submarines don't go around with their periscope above water if they don't want to be detected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Pakistan have officially created a new rogue cell consisting of senior officials from the ministries of defence, interior and information, the Military Operations Directorate, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Intelligence Bureau (IB), has been formed to formulate “a doable and sustainable India-Kashmir policy”, ie. find new ways to send their brainwashed terrorist soldiers into India to cause havoc http://www.dawn.com/news/1298068/new-committee-to-hammer-out-india-policy Quote ISLAMABAD: A high-level committee, consisting of senior officials from the ministries of defence, interior and information, the Military Operations Directorate, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Intelligence Bureau (IB), has been formed to formulate “a doable and sustainable India-Kashmir policy”, Sartaj Aziz told the Senate on Tuesday. Speaking about the status of the implementation of policy guidelines, given by a Senate committee of the whole house, the prime minister’s adviser on foreign affairs said the committee was headed by Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry and could co-opt other members if required. Although the Senate had originally recommended the formation of a task force — including chairpersons of the defence and foreign affairs committees from both houses of parliament — Mr Aziz said the committee would regularly brief the two committees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Sartaz Aziz visits India. But this time he seems to have forgotten Kashmiri feeedom fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 6 hours ago, mishra said: Sartaz Aziz visits India. But this time he seems to have forgotten Kashmiri feeedom fighters He is probably going to use the victims of terrorism angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 7 hours ago, mishra said: Sartaz Aziz visits India. But this time he seems to have forgotten Kashmiri feeedom fighters Good that he wasn't allowed to go to the golden temple. I read he was going to talk to press outside the holy place, use it to propagate the Kashmir propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I don't know if its just me, but Sartaj Aziz's egg-shaped head just looks too nauseating to me. They should get Hina Rabbani Khar back (different party I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Good that he wasn't allowed to go to the golden temple. I read he was going to talk to press outside the holy place, use it to propagate the Kashmir propaganda. What do these pakistanis think?Press conference outside golden temple.Baap ka raaj hai kya.Good that he has been put in his place. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 ^ Dont underestimate the Indians greed. Pakistan just used Indian Congress Youth Wing to assault Baloch activitsTarek Fatah within the premises of Punjab University for advising a Kashmiri student not to behave like a Pakistani when Kashmiris are Indian in a speech at Punjab University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Heart of asia conference, india once again showing its oqat and using such cheap tactics they think they made Pak "isolated" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) ^ Doesn't repeated use of emoticon make one come across as a bit of a chhichhora? Edited December 5, 2016 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Asim said: Heart of asia conference, india once again showing its oqat and using such cheap tactics they think they made Pak "isolated" I thought it was the Afghan President who made a strong statement at an Afghanistan-centric conference. For a strife-torn country in such need, the idea that its better for them to refuse $500 million shows how strongly they feel about the terrorism issue. But blame it all on India... randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Russian whinging and deal mongering has got to stop, Ind is have deals with US, so we will have deals with pak wtf ? US is a super power everyone has to have deals with them to save their own arse. Russia having relations with pak to appease China is funny and ironic on the other hand loose central asia to taliban and central Siberia to China, does Russian strategic interests converge with pak in Afganistan ? its funny how Putin and his pals run politics, they think everywhere is Tsarist Russia. Or may be they want to appease china with statements, and have deals in the background with India none the less, i am also amazed howmuch China wants India contained, that they will do the work for Pak pushing Russia to allign with pak. Means tawang and Tibet are that important for China. jalebi_bhai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 15 hours ago, sandeep said: I thought it was the Afghan President who made a strong statement at an Afghanistan-centric conference. For a strife-torn country in such need, the idea that its better for them to refuse $500 million shows how strongly they feel about the terrorism issue. But blame it all on India... Hahaha as if you dont know the facts!!! and as if Pakistan cares for whatever ignorant dummies like Karzai and Ghani sitting in indian lap tells about Pakistan and similarly india sitting in US lap think they do need need Pakistan element anymore for Afghan peace process... But the ground realities in Afghan are and will remain forever wholetogether different but Afghans current so-called 'leadership' can keep making fool of themselves with the 'help' of india as long as they do not want a Genuine peace-process t get started which is practically impossible without Pakistan which is on offer today but india making Afghans to run-away from that... indian 'help' for Afghan will ultimately end up as: khud to doobay hain sanam tujh ko b ley doobain gey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 isi baat pe ek sher arz hai^^^ Khusrow dariya pyaar ka, ulti jiski dhaar Jo ubhra so doob gaya, jo dooba so paar. Hum to doobne ke shauqeen hain. Laaloo and mishra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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