rkt.india Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 anyway there was no way any umpire could say there was an inside edge in real time. Blaming umpire for that is ridiculous.
speedheat Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 To be honest Morgan is not wrong that idiot umpire gave wrong decision on the crucial stage of the match which cost england Chao's would have ensured if it was other way round ICC should allow third umpire's involvement in case of horrible decision just as they do it for no balls GoldenSun 1
express bowling Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Personally, as an Indian, I was comfortable when Root was batting and was worried when he was given out and a bigger hitter came in sandeep 1
King Tendulkar Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 What a bunch of whining losers . What never played cricket before and had a bad umpiring decision against them what they want us to list all the awful decisions against india in reply . Jeez what a bunch of twats desteoyed in tests. Beaten in odis . All they have left is meaningless t20s and are like beggars with no food . Pathetic from England . Kohli on trophy whitewash wash trail and moaning England can't handle it Sidhoni and GoldenSun 1 1
coffee_rules Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 The cry-baby part is not over bad-umpiring whines, but about having no DRS. They could have insisted on DRS before the start of the series. He was perfectly happy not having DRS in the first t20I. Now, that he lost on some decisions, he starts crying about not having DRS. New guy 1
King Tendulkar Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 England umpires never make mistakes do they . Perfect decision makers and awesome at what they do I main England to take up the lbw with match referee !!! What a bunch of losers . I repeat have these jokers ever played cricket , is this first umpiring mistake they have seen . What next lodge complaint to ICC ? Ridiculous reaction . England becoming like Bangladesh
Panhandle Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 People who are whining about bad umpiring in this match did not watch cricket in the 90's. India would always get a bad decision at the crucial point of the match. Remember Tendulkar's shoulder before wicket? King Tendulkar 1
King Tendulkar Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 *nor and his anti tendulakr agenda . Would have won test series in oz not for him !!! And yes yes I am whining it still hurts . Morgan that was proper test cricket not some Mickey Mouse t20 game , get over it GoldenSun 1
putrevus Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Morgan has every right to whine, his team got robbed, when we watch Sydney 08 even now we think of Bucknor and Bruce Oxenford and calculate what ifs, so nothing wrong with Morgan pointing out to the fact his team got robbed yesterday. We need to win fair and square. I do not understand why there were no referrals in this T20 series. GoldenSun 1
Sidhoni Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Morgan has every right to whine, his team got robbed, when we watch Sydney 08 even now we think of Bucknor and Bruce Oxenford and calculate what ifs, so nothing wrong with Morgan pointing out to the fact his team got robbed yesterday. We need to win fair and square. I do not understand why there were no referrals in this T20 series. There is no similarity at all here. Root was anyway struggling so the only thing to affect them would be one more ball. Couldn't score 3 runs in 5 balls, how could they have scored 8? Laaloo, GoldenSun and TheWall 1 2
putrevus Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sidhoni said: There is no similarity at all here. Root was anyway struggling so the only thing to affect them would be one more ball. Couldn't score 3 runs in 5 balls, how could they have scored 8? Who are you to say that Root could not score, he is very much capable of scoring more than Ali did and that's all Morgan was saying and he has every right to say. How is it different from Sydney 08, in Sydney Indian bowlers had many more chance to get Symonds out but they could not do so. Edited January 30, 2017 by putrevus GoldenSun and Laaloo 2
kosingh Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sidhoni said: There is no similarity at all here. Root was anyway struggling so the only thing to affect them would be one more ball. Couldn't score 3 runs in 5 balls, how could they have scored 8? 7 would be required off 5 since Root got to the other end. Even if 40 were required off the last over, you never want crap umpiring. GoldenSun 1
King Tendulkar Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Was it even crap umpiring . So many times lbw given after edge not detected happens all the time Indian umpire makes same mistake all umpires do and suddenly drama GoldenSun 1
kosingh Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: Was it even crap umpiring . So many times lbw given after edge not detected happens all the time Indian umpire makes same mistake all umpires do and suddenly drama Indian team complains about our own umpires too. Like when india had umpire kulkarni kicked out for giving decisions against india. GoldenSun 1
Sidhoni Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Who are you to say that Root could not score, he is very much capable of scoring more than Ali did and that's all Morgan was saying and he has every right to say. How is it different from Sydney 08, in Sydney Indian bowlers had many more chance to get Symonds out but they could not do so. In Sydney clearly the whole match was affected and the decisions were atrocious. Here in all likelihood the decision wouldn't have made a difference to the result looking at how Bumrah bowled and to be honest that wasn't even a howler. 7 would be required off 5 since Root got to the other end. Even if 40 were required off the last over, you never want crap umpiring. Yes you don't want bad umpiring but it happens nearly every game. GoldenSun and Laaloo 2
putrevus Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sidhoni said: In Sydney clearly the whole match was affected and the decisions were atrocious. Here in all likelihood the decision wouldn't have made a difference to the result looking at how Bumrah bowled and to be honest that wasn't even a howler. Yes you don't want bad umpiring but it happens nearly every game. No Sydney also had very few decisions, it was a test match so it will have more decisions in general so we have more disputes. In this match there were three contentious decisions all of them went against England. While you are entitled to think that match result would not change, they are also entitled to think that they got robbed.We want DRS every match to eliminate these howlers.You want to win the match on the field and not due to umpiring decisions favoring your team.
sandeep Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Harsh on Morgan. He has nothing to do with the whining history of previous English cricketers, and in this case, it was a poor decision anyway. It doesn't matter that Root was stinking it up and it wasn't as if that decision alone cost England the game. Lost in the poor decision is what a brainfart of a shot was played by Root on that ball anyway. As much as Root's batting is quality, in T20 and ODI, one always gets the feeling when watching him bat, that the brainfade and the "self-out" is never too far away. DRS should be added to T20 asap by ICC. I don't think Indian fans should be too excited about the whining or winning this game. Good that Bumrah bowled well. But our batting keeps stinking up the joint. The focus should stay on that, and the much needed reform that's over due. GoldenSun and kosingh 2
sandeep Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Stumped said: If someone can average 40+ with a strike rate of 130+ in t20is I'd still happily take that feeling for it anyway of the week . Yeah someone posted ODI numbers for Shikhar Dhawan and Joe Root recently - I'm not too bothered to dig them up again. Difference is that Shikhar Dhawan is in danger of being dropped from the ODI team, while Root is probably the next captain for England across all formats. Not to bash Root - I've posted on ICF earlier that I think he edges VK in test batting, purely on batting ability - and this is after the latest series. VK's bloodymindedness might just see him post better numbers - but that's not the same thing. But let's be honest, Root does seem to throw it away quite often - for the statistical minded, that's reflected in his "conversion" rate for one thing.
King Tendulkar Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 9 hours ago, sandeep said: Yeah someone posted ODI numbers for Shikhar Dhawan and Joe Root recently - I'm not too bothered to dig them up again. Difference is that Shikhar Dhawan is in danger of being dropped from the ODI team, while Root is probably the next captain for England across all formats. Not to bash Root - I've posted on ICF earlier that I think he edges VK in test batting, purely on batting ability - and this is after the latest series. VK's bloodymindedness might just see him post better numbers - but that's not the same thing. But let's be honest, Root does seem to throw it away quite often - for the statistical minded, that's reflected in his "conversion" rate for one thing. Nah root has shocking record in oz. pathetic . Kohli king there . GoldenSun 1
sandeep Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 5 hours ago, King Tendulkar said: Nah root has shocking record in oz. pathetic . Kohli king there . Numbers are just that. Numbers. Kohli is neither as great as his numbers in Australia, or as bad as his numbers in England. From a purely batting perspective, in my opinion, Root is a better bat. Its very close, but to me, Root is better. But VK trounces him in the temperament department. And still to be seen how he handles captaincy if England give it to him. As an overall package, VK is a better pick for anyone starting a team.
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