Trump's next executive order draft to target tech companies, hit work visa programs:

[maniac]

2 hours ago, gattaca said:

The root of all problems are indian companies like infosys they are just dumb enough to provide replacements to Disney while an election is going on. Why would you do that ? It is known thing that democrats are in power for 8 years and people usually vote for other party.

That was a stupid move.....as I said smaller desi consulting firms will be ok... they will manipulate the system like they already do like running payrolls etc.... the salaried ones and the ones from the big Indian it firms are screwed

[maniac]

20 hours ago, Rajiv said:

But from an American POV, isnt he doing right by helping its own citizens first?, allow only when citizens are filled with jobs

Imagine same thing in India, jobless coz. Bangladeshi wok for half price

 

I think the man is evil but think from American born pov. I have been visiting US since 80s, seen influx of Indian pros, but in 2010 - I couldnt believe what I saw outside that jersey city station, it seemed like Indian college campus in trouser/sneaker/hanky combo. I was like itne log kaha se aa gaye,. My cousin pointed me backoffices of Wipeo, infosys etc and said yeh hain Indian L1, H 1

Yes he is... from the American pov this is infact his strongest pro American move that doesn't make him out to be a total douche except may be in the eyes of Indian IT folk  

 

 

[gattaca]

30 minutes ago, maniac said:

Minimum for h1b is 65k ???

Research positions usually use non profit h1s. They pay even 40 k sometimes in rural areas.

Edited February 1, 2017 by gattaca

[randomGuy]

http://m.timesofindia.com/business/india-business/h-1b-visa-10-things-to-know/articleshow/56903796.cms

[kubrickian]

Whom does it affect the most ? My cousin works in US but he got a job in an American company and has been working for the past 6 or 7 years. I dont think he has a green card. So he will he be deported ?

[coffee_rules]

^^ No, until he renews his H1B visa. H1B is valid for 6 years only and 1 year more if your PR is going on. The bill is not passed, so there is no problem for now. Later, the visa renewal process might have some clauses and it will not be easy to renew. It's better to apply for PR unless he has no plans of staying back.

[Cricketics]

8 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

Whom does it affect the most ? My cousin works in US but he got a job in an American company and has been working for the past 6 or 7 years. I dont think he has a green card. So he will he be deported ?

No one gets deported like that. If the company  has already applied for his green card, then he stays and gets his Green Card when his EB2/EB3 dates go current. Currently the cases are backlogged and people are waiting for over 10 plus years in some categories of India. 

If the company hasn't applied and his work permit is about to come to an end, there are chances that company might not renew for him and tell him "Thanknyou for your service. "

 

If work permit is expiring and GC has been already apllied, he can look for another employer. 

[MechEng]

 

15 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

Whom does it affect the most ? My cousin works in US but he got a job in an American company and has been working for the past 6 or 7 years. I dont think he has a green card. So he will he be deported ?

He's safe, Trump made it clear that he's against illegal immigration and not Muslims or Indian engineers.

Edited February 1, 2017 by MechEng

[Cricketics]

One good thing is all this though is that pathetic quota system needs to end. Indian category, especially Employed Based 3rd category needs judicial change as people have bee waiting for green cards from 12-15 years. These people have paid a lot of money to INS(if anyone remembers that name) and then to (USCIS) from last 2 decades.

 

Also it is ridiculous how some people sponsor the family and kids and the wife gets green card in less than a year, but some people like the ones in EB3 category have had to wait 10-15 years to get the green card, even though they are more loyal to the country than the ones who just entered the country just 3 months ago and have a GC already.

 

There is a judicial change needed. And I hope something positive is done for those who are stuck waiting for so long. 

 

 

[gattaca]

12 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

One good thing is all this though is that pathetic quota system needs to end. Indian category, especially Employed Based 3rd category needs judicial change as people have bee waiting for green cards from 12-15 years. These people have paid a lot of money to INS(if anyone remembers that name) and then to (USCIS) from last 2 decades.

 

Also it is ridiculous how some people sponsor the family and kids and the wife gets green card in less than a year, but some people like the ones in EB3 category have had to wait 10-15 years to get the green card, even though they are more loyal to the country than the ones who just entered the country just 3 months ago and have a GC already.

 

There is a judicial change needed. And I hope something positive is done for those who are stuck waiting for so long. 

 

 

EB 2 is no cake been waiting since 2011. The current date is 2008 it been like that since Obama became president the first time.

[Cricketics]

Just now, gattaca said:

EB 2 is no cake been waiting since 2011. The current date is 2008 it been like that since Obama became president the first time.

Yes, EB2 is bad but Eb3 is worse. Some in my family and cricket club have been waiting since 2006, trust me.

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Cricketics said:

One good thing is all this though is that pathetic quota system needs to end. Indian category, especially Employed Based 3rd category needs judicial change as people have bee waiting for green cards from 12-15 years. These people have paid a lot of money to INS(if anyone remembers that name) and then to (USCIS) from last 2 decades.

 

Also it is ridiculous how some people sponsor the family and kids and the wife gets green card in less than a year, but some people like the ones in EB3 category have had to wait 10-15 years to get the green card, even though they are more loyal to the country than the ones who just entered the country just 3 months ago and have a GC already.

 

There is a judicial change needed. And I hope something positive is done for those who are stuck waiting for so long. 

 

 

lol. So, you want people to wait for 10 years to get their wife/children home ? It's not about proving loyalty, but how humane the policies are towards families/children. 

[Cricketics]

4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

lol. So, you want people to wait for 10 years to get their wife/children home ? It's not about proving loyalty, but how humane the policies are towards families/children. 

I am not saying they should wait 10+ years but it is totally inhumane to make people wait for 15 years while others come in late and get in a jiffy. Just not fair to me to those people. These same people do not travel back home in fear for a long time because they  feel they might be held up at the airport.

Even after working for 10 plus years they do not have a gc and the new comers do, there is something clearly totally wrong with such system and hence needs a judicial change. 

[G_B_]

20 hours ago, gattaca said:

J1 visa is for residency in US. I know my cousin is currently doing residency she makes around 80k. I don't think residency is impacted. Residency is more of learn and earn kind of a thing. Yes students need h1b if they want to work longer than OPT period(currently 24 months). 

so these kids going on masters route. They will be impacted if they cant get h1b after their masters?

 

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

so these kids going on masters route. They will be impacted if they cant get h1b after their masters?

 

 

My senior working in US post residency.He get 225k plus a year.Post residency salaries are in excess of 200k.

[maniac]

1 minute ago, G_B_ said:

so these kids going on masters route. They will be impacted if they cant get h1b after their masters?

 

 

Yep...because let us say someone graduates and works on OPT for 2 years,he will not be meeting that 130K criteria because don't think companies will hire a 2 year experience guy for $130K per year unless he is really extraordinary.

[maniac]

7 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

My senior working in US post residency.He get 225k plus a year.Post residency salaries are in excess of 200k.

it is easy to justify a VISA Sponsorship for a Doctor than it is for a IT programmer

Edited February 1, 2017 by maniac

[Yoda-esque]

If this passes, expect colleges to attract  fewer students..

[maniac]

5 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

If this passes, expect colleges to attract  fewer students..

I was in San Francisco a couple of years back...Went to buy booze one evening and there were 3 Indian students(all from Andhra/Telangana )  working there....so I  casually asked which university....they themselves laughed saying that is was a crappy university that no one has heard of.

 

Apparently there were 30 of them who came at the same time....also none of them seemed like they were from affluent families....all with the dream of getting a degree and scoring a H1 and making money.

 

New rule will dent a lot of such inflows.

Edited February 1, 2017 by maniac

[Yoda-esque]

21 minutes ago, maniac said:

I was in San Francisco a couple of years back...Went to buy booze one evening and there were 3 Indian students(all from Andhra/Telangana )  working there....so I  casually asked which university....they themselves laughed saying that is was a crappy university that no one has heard of.

 

Apparently there were 30 of them who came at the same time....also none of them seemed like they were from affluent families....all with the dream of getting a degree and scoring a H1 and making money.

 

New rule will dent a lot of such inflows.

Not just those, expect a throwback to the 70s-80s with only Ivy Leagues attracting talent and that too by sponsoring their education.

Most of the students that fall within the std. deviation will not study for an MS if they would not be allowed to reside and settle.