flat_wicket_bully Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) So, the Pune pitch was rated Poor by match Refree Chris Broad BCCI has got 14 days to give a response Will Pune be banned from hosting any further test matches. https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/339871 Edited February 28, 2017 by atishvaze Link to comment
Iconoclast Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I don't think it was poor ... Australia managed 250+ twice. Prefer it to the extreme low bounce surfaces India has produced. Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 yes please cancel the result too Soorma_Bhopali 1 Link to comment
Asim Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Do they 'rate' batting as well? Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 fair pitch India were whooped nothing more to it kosingh, SLICKR392, Vilander and 1 other 4 Link to comment
imranraf Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Does ICC have a written guideline on what a test pitch should be? Is there a standard set for a test pitch? How does the referee decide if a pitch is poor or not? Pune pitch was a turning pitch. Other than that, the bounce and rest looked to be fine. I think, Indian batsmen just played poorly making the pitch look like far worse than it was. Link to comment
CG Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Lol Chris broad.Pitch was fine. Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 46 minutes ago, imranraf said: Does ICC have a written guideline on what a test pitch should be? Is there a standard set for a test pitch? How does the referee decide if a pitch is poor or not? Pune pitch was a turning pitch. Other than that, the bounce and rest looked to be fine. I think, Indian batsmen just played poorly making the pitch look like far worse than it was. Yes there are guidelines. Any pitch with excessive turn or seam movement or uneven bounce or a super flat patta is termed poor. Link to comment
maniac Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Sidhoni said: Yes there are guidelines. Any pitch with excessive turn or seam movement or uneven bounce or a super flat patta is termed poor. Patta is poor...a pitch with true bounce is the best because it gives everything for batsmen,bowlers and spinners. I used to think Mohali used to be a very good pitch in the past...something for everyone. Bouncy pitch>slow track>green mamba/minefield>patta Edited February 28, 2017 by maniac Link to comment
Lord Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 23 hours ago, Sidhoni said: Yes there are guidelines. Any pitch with excessive turn or seam movement or uneven bounce or a super flat patta is termed poor. super flat patta?Lot of poor wickets out there then Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Aus managed to put up decent scores, i seriously dont know what is on here. India just sucked in batting and did not read Okepeeie at all, or there was nothing to read as even he did not know what the variation was going to be and just bowled straight and the batters tried to play for spin and got out as it did not spin at times. Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord said: super flat patta?Lot of poor wickets out there then Yeah. We don't know which ones were rated poor outside India before this. In India Nagpur pitch vs SA in 2015 was last pitch to be rated poor, also same reason as Pune. Link to comment
Lord Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Sidhoni said: Yeah. We don't know which ones were rated poor outside India before this. In India Nagpur pitch vs SA in 2015 was last pitch to be rated poor, also same reason as Pune. Galle I think in some match Link to comment
Laaloo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 It's been a while since we heard from Chris Broad. Link to comment
flat_wicket_bully Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, Sidhoni said: Yeah. We don't know which ones were rated poor outside India before this. In India Nagpur pitch vs SA in 2015 was last pitch to be rated poor, also same reason as Pune. http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2016-17/content/story/1084695.html Quote Since the introduction of ICC's pitch and outfield monitoring process in 2006, 12 international pitches have been rated poor or worse by match referees. Seven of the 12 pitches have belonged to ICC full members. If the five matches in Canada - four of them within two days - are taken out, four of the remaining seven pitches to face sanction have been in India. Here is a list of the seven full-member pitches. India v South Africa, Test, Kanpur, 2007-08 Rating: PoorReason: Too dry and too much turn and variable bounceMatch referee: Roshan Mahanama What happened: Trailing 1-0 after being bowled out for 76 on a moist pitch in Ahmedabad, India defeated South Africa in three days to level the series. South Africa were bowled out for 121 in the second innings. "My considered view is that the pitch was poor as it was too dry and had considerable turn and variable bounce from the first day... The pitch was not up to Test match standards," said Mahanama in his report. "It was a poor cricket wicket, though I can understand the reason behind it," South Africa's then coach Micky Arthur said. "But the practice facilities and the accommodation left a lot to be desired for an international venue." The fallout: Kanpur got away with an official warning because it had no previous record of producing a substandard pitch India v Sri Lanka, ODI, Delhi, 2009-10 Rating: UnfitReason: Random, dangerous and uneven bounceMatch referee: Alan Hurst What happened: India had already won the five-match ODI series when they came to Delhi for the last match, but only 23.3 overs were bowled before it was decided the pitch offered "extremely variable bounce and was too dangerous for further play". The bounce varied from shin to shoulder height from similar areas. The fallout: Feroz Shah Kotla was banned from hosting international cricket for a year, but that was actually a reprieve: had the ICC imposed the maximum penalty of two years, Delhi would have lost out on 2011 World Cup matches. The BCCI sacked its grounds and pitches committee, headed then by Daljit Singh, who duly came back and still heads the committee. West Indies v South Africa, Test, St Kitts, 2010 Rating: PoorReason: Too flatMatch referee: Jeff Crowe What happened: Nineteen wickets fell over five days as South Africa declared at 543 for 6, only for West Indies to overhaul the total. "This was not an exciting surface on which to play Test cricket," South Africa captain Graeme Smith said. "We were all looking for a good, even battle between bat and ball. Hopefully, Barbados [next Test] will have a little bit more in the pitch, and it will be more of a fair challenge for both sides." The ICC noted that "it was remnants of a T20 pitch from a few weeks ago". The fallout: After due consideration, the rating was changed to "below average". No penalty or fines. Since this match, St Kitts has hosted one further Test, which Pakistan won. Sri Lanka v Australia, Test, Galle, 2011 Rating: PoorReason: Excessive spin early on and further deteriorationMatch referee: Chris Broad What happened: The Test ended on the fourth day with spinners taking 18 of the first 30 wickets to fall. In the last innings, fast bowler Ryan Harris took a five-for as Australia won by 125 runs. However, Australia captain Ricky Ponting and Michael Clarke said day one felt like day five. David Richardson, then the ICC's general manager for cricket, said: "It was clear from the video footage of the match that the amount of turn, especially early in the match, was excessive and there were occasions (even on the first day) where the ball went through the surface of the pitch, bouncing unusually steeply from a good length." The fallout: The ground was officially warned, and ICC's pitch consultant Andy Atkinson was to inspect the pitch before it hosted further international cricket. Galle remains one of Sri Lanka's iconic Test venues. In 10 Tests since the warning, Galle has produced one draw but has generally remained bowler-friendly. Two of the 10 Tests have ended in three days, but they haven't been considered to have produced "excessive turn" early in the match. England v India, Test, Nottingham, 2014 Rating: PoorReason: Too flatMatch referee: David Boon What happened: The first Test of the series brought a glut of runs, including 81 from No. 11 James Anderson and twin fifties for No. 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar. It was widely touted as a "chief executive's pitch", designed to ensure gate receipts over five days. Anderson the bowler was left frustrated that edges didn't carry on the low and slow surface. The fallout: An official warning and a requirement for the ground to furnish the ECB pitch consultant's report before international cricket the next season. The only Test at Trent Bridge since then ended in three days with England bowling Australia out for 60 on a green seamer. That particular green pitch is often the counter given by irate players or coaches when the quality of a rank turner in Asia is questioned. India v South Africa, Test, Nagpur, 2015-16 Rating: PoorReason: Excessive turn and uneven bounce throughout the matchMatch referee: Jeff Crowe What happened: After losing the ODI and T20I series to South Africa, in the words of India director Ravi Shastri, India took a chance and rolled out a turner in the first Test of the series in Mohali. That three-day finish paled in comparison with the third Test, in Nagpur, where the degree of turn, the bounce, and the pace off the pitch were all variable. South Africa were bowled out for 79 in their first innings; India's 215 on day one was the highest score of the match. The fallout: An official warning was given even though the BCCI questioned the rating. In the World T20 the same season, Nagpur produced mainly turning tracks with India bowled out for, well, 79 in the tournament opener against New Zealand. India v Australia, Test, Pune, 2016-17 Rating: PoorReason: Loose surface on both ends and spinners' deliveries exploding from the surface early in the matchMatch referee: Chris Broad What happened: After beating New Zealand, England and Bangladesh emphatically in a long home season, India went for a turner in Pune, much against the wishes of the local curator. Australia won the toss, got a total on the board, and then their spinners ran through India twice in just 74 overs for the lowest match aggregate for two all-out innings in a Test in India. The fallout: The BCCI has 14 days to reply to the ICC. It has happened 7 times when pitch has been rated poor or worse. 4 times in India Edited March 2, 2017 by atishvaze Sidhoni 1 Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If flat pitches get poor rating , then most of the Aussie pitches in last few years should have had poor rating. That just looks biased and ridiculous. Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Srinath should start rating some pitches from Aus and Eng poor too. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Not a single Aussie pitch in the past couple of years has been comparable to the referenced St Kitts or Nottingham pitches. http://m.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2012/engine/current/match/573007.html This rating hasn't been for just last couple of years Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 minute ago, BeautifulGame said: http://m.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2012/engine/current/match/573007.html Rob Quiney at number 3? What were Australia thinking? Link to comment
Sajid_Rana Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Richest borad and cant make a proper pitch. lol Vilander 1 Link to comment
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