surajmal Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Seems like Congress has found its USP. Will be a recurring thing over the next year and a half. Namo needs to cut down the mevani type scumbags now before he loses the narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Umar Khalid is a trouble maker scumbag, he instigates riots everywhere he goes, after all he is the son of an ex SIMI top boss. Edited January 2, 2018 by Gollum Turning_track and sergio04 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I don’t think guys like Mevani will get anywhere, I thought he comes across well on TV, but reading into his ideas for improving livelihood of Dalits, it’s so outdated, socialist, 1950s things like demanding free farmland for Dalits, gauranteed jobs, alternative high paying jobs etc it won’t work in today’s and future global world There is no innovation, no alternative capitalist way forward, too much reliance on public funds, nothing about improving education, vocational training for Dalits etc, in that sense BSP is way ahead these Mevani and Hardik types are incompetent pretenders, just like biggest one currently leading Indira’s Congress, they will wither away in due time unless they put there heads down and produce tangible results for their supporters or country sergio04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, chewy said: I don’t think guys like Mevani will get anywhere, I thought he comes across well on TV, but reading into his ideas for improving livelihood of Dalits, it’s so outdated, socialist, 1950s things like demanding free farmland for Dalits, gauranteed jobs, alternative high paying jobs etc it won’t work in today’s and future global world There is no innovation, no alternative capitalist way forward, too much reliance on public funds, nothing about improving education, vocational training for Dalits etc, in that sense BSP is way ahead these Mevani and Hardik types are incompetent pretenders, just like biggest one currently leading Indira’s Congress, they will wither away in due time unless they put there heads down and produce tangible results for their supporters or country Fight isnt against mevani type goondas but the deep state handlers of Congress. Goal is to make sure couple of decades of solid growth so that deep state's assets will be rendered useless and Bharat can control its own destiny. You take out Rahul's pidis early to buy time to bring on next set of reforms. Once the economy reaches 10 trillion, even bhagwan can't * with bharat. sergio04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunya Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 India mein chuttad logo ki kami nahi hai...**** man...its impossible to change so many idiots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) http://www.republicworld.com/s/17826/watch-video-captures-jignesh-mevani-demanding-a-street-war-to-settle-caste-disputes modi is either too arrogant or has become too old. the 2002 modi would have dealt firmly with these scoundrels from the beginning. this JNU chaap and his separatist friends will destroy the country Edited January 2, 2018 by FischerTal sergio04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Arnab openly pointing finger at Lutyen lumpens (Congress politicians and media), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Going back to 1989s - Mandal days of caste/religion politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) During a Rajya Sabha speech Hukam Narayan Yadav lamented that "Everyone" is in minority if you divide Indians on basis of caste. He suggested to get rid of castism, first remove all reservation in public sector jobs and reservation be only given to those who does intercaste marriage. Edited January 4, 2018 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, mishra said: During a Rajya Sabha speech Hukam Narayan Yadav lamented that "Everyone" is in minority if you divide Indians on basis of caste. He suggested to get rid of castism, first remove all reservation in public sector jobs and reservation be only given to those who does intercaste marriage. No matter what that's almost impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio04 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 u will see lot of riots in next year campaigned by congress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Trichromatic said: No matter what that's almost impossible. Actually, My circle of frnd wont mind who our next generation maries to. However, The few of my college batchmates of particular states still suffer from some sort of caste complex. They should understand, we give a damn about their caste amymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, mishra said: Actually, My circle of frnd wont mind who our next generation maries to. However, The few of my college batchmates of particular states still suffer from some sort of caste complex. They should understand, we give a damn about their caste amymore Probably most of India still cares about the caste. One of my friend who had all the freedom, and much more advanced family had hard time convincing his parents about marriage within same caste, but different subcaste. And that's story of urban, economically good, well educated family. As of now imagining a caste free society in India is as probable as a world without any national boundary. It's just not enough to be ready to marry in other castes. Arrange marriages will be difficult even if everyone in family is ready. For caste system to go away, arrange marriages too have to be rare and I don't see that happening even in our next generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Break Hindu votes. Since painting BJP communal didnt work. Now try to paint them anti dalit. adi B and Turning_track 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, BeardedAladdin said: Caste free society will never exist. If Amreeka, with its 'progressiveness' has a 10% rate of interracial marriage, expecting India (with its 6% of intercaste marriage) to be a 'equal' society is pointless. People will always be tribal, its human nature. This doesn't mean that people accept casteism at the political level. We'd like politics free of caste. That's what the congress is fighting against, and that's what the BJP stands for. 2019 will be interesting. Let's see if hindutva is strong enough to overcome casteism. Political group exists because there are difference among different section of society. Those differences are either economical, religious, regional, linguistic or caste. How can we expect caste free politics without removing casteist differences? Problem how a party is exploiting this difference. My village has a consolidated settlement of people living together in a particular area surrounded by vast agricultural land. Baniyas, yadavs, muslims have lived in that area for long time. That's the first level of casteist difference. Then comes another level of casteist difference in which lowest castes have been living outside this perimeter of village (settlement and agricultural land) for long time. Till 1990s they used to live on the leftovers of the people cremeted at the banks of rivers. I am not sure whether they were allowed to enter main village or not, but their entry in any home was strict no. Their kids have started going to school in 2010s and we are talking about primary schools. Forget colleges and higher studies. That's stil probably 1 or 2 generations away. How do we expect politics to remain free of this when differences exist at such level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 58 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said: I agree that we have a casteist society, those differences have existed for 5000 years. But haven't we've addressed these problems with caste based reservations? It's not perfect but neither side on the political spectrum is against reservation; the people in government know exactly what is needed to address inequality. Question is how do you integrate these people by bridging cultural and social divides. That's where hindutva offers something that the usual politics of casteism doesn't. Institutional empowerment and cultural empowerment go hand in hand. There's no point in being educated if you're still viewed as lower caste. But if we all view each other as people of the same tribe, more doors will open. There's only one political party that offers a politics of inclusion. If we continue to stress caste based differences at every opportunity, we'll continue to remain a fragmented society. This is an Interesting debate, i appreciate the response. Who will you vote for in the next election? And do you think hindutva can be a solution to casteism? Problem with Hinduvta replacing casteism is, we are replacing a broken and out-dated concept with a less broken and out-dated concept. What India needs to progress, is a clean break from religious mumbo-jumbo that is causing a lot of friction in society. Hindus are now policing who sees whom, whether a hindu girl is with a muslim guy and what not. We need to follow the example of Japan- retain our culture in terms of cuisine, arts, literature, but get rid of out-dated mentality. Its high time we stopped following concepts made & modified by people who were illiterates compared to us. Turning_track 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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