In the context of the game...was Rohit’s knock really that bad?

[tweaker]

Virat will find out a way to accommodate Rohit in next test,drop Pujara

[Ankit_sharma03]

At the end of the his job is to put runs on board, not just play the balls out he aint a night watchmen

When i see him bat in test cricket he looks under tremendous pressure , if ur mind is not clear some ball will get u no matter how much patience u show. 

 

It just 11 runs 

[jusarrived]

3 hours ago, CG said:

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

The problem with Rohit is playing out of his natural game. He is no Pujara or Dravid. He needs to play his natural game.

That's his natural game if you watch him in ODIs and FC he takes his time to settle then he opens up.

Exactly , that's why I feel he will always struggle to score in these conditions . If people think he can start scoring at run a ball in tests and he's just holding back for now they couldn't be more wrong . He has the luxury of playing himself in even on flat pitches in odis , won't happen here cos bowlers will keep coming at him and before he settles he will back in the pavilion more often than not

[jusarrived]

1 hour ago, SK_IH said:

seriously now people will eulogise batsman surviving one hour ,this must be lowest ebb for some fans

He was repeatedly beaten and was lucky with few edges , even bhuvi and Ashwin looked more assured . Ok it's not just about the runs , let's forget how he's been found out in the past as well ..but you can see for yourself how he survived that one hour . 

[Lannister]

2 hours ago, Cricketics said:

OP asking if 11 runs is bad or not. Indeed its bad just like low scores of others also like that of Kohli, Vijay etc.

 

Top and middle order players are supposed to score runs and not just play out sessions. If you have only 11 runs to show then you haven’t done your job. In the same scenario had Shami or Bumrah had done this with Pandya, then I would say they have done their job for staying on the wicket for that long.

 

Rohit showed effort to stay which was good, but not the runs. 

 

Now unless one is thinking Rohit is a tailender then indeed he has done his job by staying for 50 balls. 

 

 

Sometimes it's more than just runs scored, he held one end making sure no wickets fell for a session or two. Do you honestly believe if Pandya had come earlier, that he would've been equally effective? Dhawan scored more runs than Rohit, but still the latter's was even more worthless to team's cause because of his short stay at the crease and he didn't do the openers job properly, that is see off the new ball making it easy for other batters to score. 

Edited January 7, 2018 by Lannister

[Cricketics]

2 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Sometimes it's more than just runs scored, he held one end making sure no wickets fell for a session or two. Do you honestly believe if Pandya had come earlier, that he would've been equally effective? Dhawan scored more runs than Rohit, but still the latter's was even more worthless to team's cause because of his short stay at the crease and he didn't do the openers job properly, that is see off the new ball making it easy for other batters to score. 

Pandya scored runs today of Seamers so he deserves credit, thats bot because of Rohit’s effort. . Its not that Rohit made sure Pandya face only spinners. South Africa still came with seamers at Pandya and he had to face them through out.

 

Like I said, Rohit’s value of staying long would have been been only understandable had he batted with someone scoring runs at the other ne . Pujara himself takes time to score, so Rohit taning his own sweet time and ending up with 11 runs doesn’t exactly mean he has helped the team as we are still all out and our lower order stil had to face fresh South African seam bowlers

 

They all failed - Vijay, Kohli, Dhawan, Rohit etc. I am not going to be criticial since its just one inning but if someone says Rohit did his job or played inportant role in batting for 60 balls than its all bull to me that part.

 

He showed signs of batting well and staying on the wicket but it did not help us at all. Thats about it

 

Only 3 guys really did well with the bat - Pandya, Bhuvi and to an extent Pujara. No one else . 

 

[Lannister]

9 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Pandya scored runs today of Seamers so he deserves credit, thats bot because of Rohit’s effort. . Its not that Rohit made sure Pandya face only spinners. South Africa still came with seamers at Pandya and he had to face them through out.

 

Like I said, Rohit’s value of staying long would have been been only understandable had he batted with someone scoring runs at the other ne . Pujara himself takes time to score, so Rohit taning his own sweet time and ending up with 11 runs doesn’t exactly mean he has helped the team as we are still all out and our lower order stil had to face fresh South African seam bowlers

 

They all failed - Vijay, Kohli, Dhawan, Rohit etc. I am not going to be criticial since its just one inning but if someone says Rohit did his job or played inportant role in batting for 60 balls than its all bull to me that part.

 

He showed signs of batting well and staying on the wicket but it did not help us at all. Thats about it

 

Only 3 guys really did well with the bat - Pandya, Bhuvi and to an extent Pujara. No one else . 

 

It doesn't work that way in South African conditions where the conditions are tough to bat initially. He had to start the day off when the bowlers were fresh and the fact that he survived the whole session is very commendable. If others had least bit showed his patience we would still be batting now. 

[Cricketics]

1 minute ago, Lannister said:

It doesn't work that way in South African conditions where the conditions are tough to bat initially. He had to start the day off when the bowlers were fresh and the fact that he survived the whole session is very commendable. If others had least bit showed his patience we would still be batting now. 

Arey bhai kitni baar bola he has done well in that aspect but at the end of the day it did not add value to the team since we were 80 something for 7 anyway after he got out and he did not capitalize on his watchful k knock and could only put on 11 odd runs. Thats the whole point. 

 

I don’t know why we are making such a big deal out of an 11 run knock. 

 

 

[Lannister]

4 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Arey bhai kitni baar bola he has done well in that aspect but at the end of the day it did not add value to the team since we were 80 something for 7 anyway after he got out and he did not capitalize on his watchful k knock and could only put on 11 odd runs. Thats the whole point. 

 

I don’t know why we are making such a big deal out of an 11 run knock. 

 

 

The fact that we even reached 80 was because of his partnership with Pujara. Remember on the same ground, Australia was all-out for 49 or something. Nobody is celebrating his knock and at the same time, nobody should criticize the knock either where he showed some commonsense unlike the other top 3 batters. 

[Cricketics]

Dude are you serious, when third wicket fell , we were 27-3 and Rohit fell just 30 runs later at 57-4. Now if thats an achievement and thats the performance you are happy with or feel like defending, then I can’t debate much.

5 minutes ago, Lannister said:

The fact that we even reached 80 was because of his partnership with Pujara. Remember on the same ground, Australia was all-out for 49 or something. Nobody is celebrating his knock and at the same time, nobody should criticize the knock either where he showed some commonsense unlike the other top 3 batters. 

 

[Nonbeliever]

So virat is also a member of this forum..  taking public opinions.

Edited January 7, 2018 by Nonbeliever

[adi B]

Rohit' s knock was so insignificant that it doesn't warrant a thread on it !

[Lannister]

16 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Dude are you serious, when third wicket fell , we were 27-3 and Rohit fell just 30 runs later at 57-4. Now if thats an achievement and thats the performance you are happy with or feel like defending, then I can’t debate much.

 

Well, nobody said it's an achievement. But he did play better Cricket than 4 other batters. You should take that into consideration as well, before blindly criticizing him. This was his first overseas match since god knows how long. 

[Cricketics]

2 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Well, nobody said it's an achievement. But he did play better Cricket than 4 other batters. You should take that into consideration as well, before blindly criticizing him. This was his first overseas match since god knows how long. 

So now you are are coming to “he played better than others” lol, as if anyone was saying that he played worse than other four.

 

The discussion was just that it was a knock which did not help India at all, just like the knock of Vijay, Or Kohli, or Dhawan etc.

 

Had he capitalized on his hard work and scored another 20-30 runs, it would have helped India. At 11 runs, the knock looks insignificant.

 

 

[New guy]

Rohits fans seem to have very low expectations from him

[Lannister]

39 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

The discussion was just that it was a knock which did not help India at all, just like the knock of Vijay, Or Kohli, or Dhawan etc.

You are just repeating the same sentence. How did it not help India? He made sure others didn't come early to face the music, but got out unfortunately. It happens to any top batsmen. 

[Cricketics]

Just now, Lannister said:

You are just repeating the same sentence. How did it not help India? He made sure others didn't come early to face the music, but got out unfortunately. It happens to any top batsmen. 

Lol what he made sure. You are repeating the same thing and not accepting it that we were 57-4 and that Pandya nd co did come in early. At 57 score is still not much. Its not that the score was 157 or 200 runs. It was barely 50 odd runs the team total. He did not protect or save anyone. 

 

 

[CG]

1 hour ago, Cricketics said:

Lol what he made sure. You are repeating the same thing and not accepting it that we were 57-4 and that Pandya nd co did come in early. At 57 score is still not much. Its not that the score was 157 or 200 runs. It was barely 50 odd runs the team total. He did not protect or save anyone. 

 

 

Morning session new ball there is diff .Lower order batting is easier with kokaburra ball.You expect a top order bat to apply himself he did get a good ball.

[Austin 3:!6]

Rohit looked more assured than Kohli for sure in 1st innings. That Rabada spell was too much to survive for anyone.

Watch how tailunt unleash in 2nd innings

 

[maniac]

This exactly proves my point....in a game likes this time is money....Dhawan scored 5 runs more than Rohit but he got at out a critical time and left the team a little vulnerable.the 60 balls Rohit played is more valuable than the 5 extra runs....Rohit and Pujara as well did a commendable job early on ...obviously Pujara is getting the accolades he deserves where as Rohit is getting absolutely murdered on here.....not fair.

 

We managed to get an extra bonus day washout...who knows it may be critical in the context of saving the game.