maniac Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 England - Cook,Root,Anderson....maybe Stokes and Broad Australia- Warner,Smith, Starc,Hazelwood,Lyon and maybe Cummins Newzealand- Williamson,Taylor and Boult Srilanka-Matthews,Herath,Chandimal Westindies-K.Bratthwaite and Holder Pakistan- Sarfaraz,Azhar Ali,Yasir Shah South Africa-Faf,Amla,Rabada,De Kock and maybe AB(if he decides to continue in tests) Bangladesh-Shakib,Tamim and Mushfiqur India-Kohli.... and I would have said Pujara but looks like even his time is ticking. None of our fast bowlers are guaranteed starters,none of our openers and Middle order is either,our spinners are interchangeable and even our keeper who I thought was indispensable is no longer that velu, Laaloo, beetle and 5 others 1 2 2 3 Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Even vice captain is not certain beetle, Laaloo, diehardpacer and 4 others 7 Link to comment
maniac Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: Even vice captain is not certain Vice Captain has been dropped...wonder who is the stand-in VC? Link to comment
Popular Post Trichromatic Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 Whatever is happening will make you think that we have too many underperforming players in the team. Such situation happens when players are on verge of retiring or team has minnoweque core. But we are only team with 3 openers averaging over 40, no 3 avg over 52, no 4 avg 53, no 5 avg 45. Which other team has top 6 batsman who can average 41-53 in test cricket? Even if you see bowling, we have 2 pacers averaging below 30 in test cricket and that's first time in history of Indian cricket, 2 spinner averaging 23-25 and that's also first time in our history. Yet no one is sure starter in the team except 1. There is no core of this team. Not even a single person in world can say who are core members of this team for next 2 series. Even Dhawan can hack one inning if he allowed to play all matches in 2 series like he did in NZ. But even fluking is impossible when you are there for just 1 match. You're desperately trying to secure the spot in the side. Now it appears as if first match was practice match for Dhawan and 2nd one is practice match for Rahul. They all will take time to settle in. How are we expecting anyone to directly go there and perform? Could Tendulkar ever scored 241 in Sydney test under current leadership after failing in first 3 test? If we had Kohli and Shastri back then, he would have been dropped and there is good chance that a new batsman can easily fail with first match on tour handing over series to Aus. Anyone would have thought Bhuvi being best bowler isn't droppable. But after seeing what happened to him, I am not sure what's the confidence level in the team. No one can say what a players needs to do stay in the team. This is an extraordinary situation never witnessed before. New guy, zen, beetle and 7 others 2 5 3 Link to comment
maniac Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Jadeja for Ashwin Dhawan back for either Rahul/Vijay Rahane back for either Rohit/Pujara Bhuvi/Yadav back for Shami/Ishant/Bumrah and Karthik In for Patel...all of these are a possibility Samcric, beetle, Forever Indian and 1 other 4 Link to comment
velu Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 saha is #2 on the list if he stays fit Link to comment
maniac Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, velu said: saha is #2 on the list if he stays fit Need to increase the font for “if” ....getting “niggled” is more common than common cold in Indian team :) beetle, velu and diehardpacer 3 Link to comment
zen Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Reposting the below: "Unlike LOIs, where a horses for courses strategy works well, Test cricket is more like portfolio management You pick both Pujara and Rahane for example as a portfolio where Pujara scores big in Asia and Rahane in what we term "overseas" One of the reasons why Ind's batting did really well relatively under the Famous 5 was that they worked like a portfolio. Sehwag could murder attacks on his day and get those Everest like big scores, Dravid would be consistent in almost all type of conditions and Tendulkar would get his 100s. Dada would be there to take on the spinners later on or play a gritty knock here and there. Laxman, who averaged relatively less than Sehwag, Dravid and Tendulkar, would play those exceptional knocks when chips are down Bowlers you would play based on current form and conditions Right now there is too much influence of LOIs on Tests .... We are probably picking 11s trying to keep the core of LOIs and pick other players around the LOI core (probably explains why Rahane isn't playing) rather than the other way" Forever Indian 1 Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 14 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Whatever is happening will make you think that we have too many underperforming players in the team. Such situation happens when players are on verge of retiring or team has minnoweque core. But we are only team with 3 openers averaging over 40, no 3 avg over 52, no 4 avg 53, no 5 avg 45. Which other team has top 6 batsman who can average 41-53 in test cricket? Even if you see bowling, we have 2 pacers averaging below 30 in test cricket and that's first time in history of Indian cricket, 2 spinner averaging 23-25 and that's also first time in our history. Yet no one is sure starter in the team except 1. There is no core of this team. Not even a single person in world can say who are core members of this team for next 2 series. Even Dhawan can hack one inning if he allowed to play all matches in 2 series like he did in NZ. But even fluking is impossible when you are there for just 1 match. You're desperately trying to secure the spot in the side. Now it appears as if first match was practice match for Dhawan and 2nd one is practice match for Rahul. They all will take time to settle in. How are we expecting anyone to directly go there and perform? Could Tendulkar ever scored 241 in Sydney test under current leadership after failing in first 3 test? If we had Kohli and Shastri back then, he would have been dropped and there is good chance that a new batsman can easily fail with first match on tour handing over series to Aus. Anyone would have thought Bhuvi being best bowler isn't droppable. But after seeing what happened to him, I am not sure what's the confidence level in the team. No one can say what a players needs to do stay in the team. This is an extraordinary situation never witnessed before. You nearly had it correct to compete overseas but you got rid of Kumble and kept Kohli . Link to comment
Shunya Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 14 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Whatever is happening will make you think that we have too many underperforming players in the team. Such situation happens when players are on verge of retiring or team has minnoweque core. But we are only team with 3 openers averaging over 40, no 3 avg over 52, no 4 avg 53, no 5 avg 45. Which other team has top 6 batsman who can average 41-53 in test cricket? Even if you see bowling, we have 2 pacers averaging below 30 in test cricket and that's first time in history of Indian cricket, 2 spinner averaging 23-25 and that's also first time in our history. Yet no one is sure starter in the team except 1. There is no core of this team. Not even a single person in world can say who are core members of this team for next 2 series. Even Dhawan can hack one inning if he allowed to play all matches in 2 series like he did in NZ. But even fluking is impossible when you are there for just 1 match. You're desperately trying to secure the spot in the side. Now it appears as if first match was practice match for Dhawan and 2nd one is practice match for Rahul. They all will take time to settle in. How are we expecting anyone to directly go there and perform? Could Tendulkar ever scored 241 in Sydney test under current leadership after failing in first 3 test? If we had Kohli and Shastri back then, he would have been dropped and there is good chance that a new batsman can easily fail with first match on tour handing over series to Aus. Anyone would have thought Bhuvi being best bowler isn't droppable. But after seeing what happened to him, I am not sure what's the confidence level in the team. No one can say what a players needs to do stay in the team. This is an extraordinary situation never witnessed before. Please put this post on the home page so that Kohli's PR(including his ICF PR) can see. Tired of explaining this in every post. FFS, 35 Test matches as captain and there is no settled lineup that he himself want to select. What is he doing? Chop and Change Kohli should be renamed as ChooCha Kohli or Captain ChooCha. He seem to be hating it when people bring it up for eg Post match PC. beetle 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, maniac said: England - Cook,Root,Anderson....maybe Stokes and Broad Australia- Warner,Smith, Starc,Hazelwood,Lyon and maybe Cummins Newzealand- Williamson,Taylor and Boult Srilanka-Matthews,Herath,Chandimal Westindies-K.Bratthwaite and Holder Pakistan- Sarfaraz,Azhar Ali,Yasir Shah South Africa-Faf,Amla,Rabada,De Kock and maybe AB(if he decides to continue in tests) Bangladesh-Shakib,Tamim and Mushfiqur India-Kohli.... and I would have said Pujara but looks like even his time is ticking. None of our fast bowlers are guaranteed starters,none of our openers and Middle order is either,our spinners are interchangeable and even our keeper who I thought was indispensable is no longer that And if you see, strong teams like Aus, SA, Eng have atleast 5 core players, which is half of the team and that's why they are able to build their team around these players. We are supposed to be the no.1 team above these strong teams and have 1 As expected the minnows like Bang, SL, WI have 2 or 3 only, but even that is more than the no.1 team Edited January 17, 2018 by Forever Indian velu 1 Link to comment
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