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Just now, Kohlifan said:

better to have a bowling machine then, atleast it will bowl at one spot all the time. :bandit:

 

it will also bowl faster than some of the trundlers who have played in the past.

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14 minutes ago, Kohlifan said:

better to have a bowling machine then, atleast it will bowl at one spot all the time. :bandit:

 

you cannot bowl at one spot in T20s. Batsmen will easily line you up. You cannot be predictable in T20s. 

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3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Yes Having 2 wicket keepers don't make sense. As a keeper Pant's inclusion is somewhat justifiable. But purely as a batsman no way. I can't buy he is better than someone like Mayank Agarwal  or KL Rahul in any format. 

Pant is certainly better than Agarwal in T20s. 

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6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

you cannot bowl at one spot in T20s. Batsmen will easily line you up. You cannot be predictable in T20s. 

seems like thats why great unadkat was not bowling to a channel.

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17 minutes ago, Kohlifan said:

seems like thats why great unadkat was not bowling to a channel.

Channel bowling is good in tests and to some extent in ODIs.  T20 bowling is different.  Unadcut just does not have that kind of talent, neither good enough pace. He relies a lot on slower balls.  Once they don't work, he goes for plenty. 

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11 hours ago, Khota said:

DK has really worked hard at his game. He has been treated poorly by the management and the so called experts on this forum. He is delivering right now and deserves to play. If he quits performing then make a change but give credit where it is due.

DK>>>>Dhoni. No brainer. pant is irrelevant to this discussion.

yes he has worked hard whole season to be india's keeping choice by not keeping wkts whole domestic season

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3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

yes he has worked hard whole season to be india's keeping choice by not keeping wkts whole domestic season

Your hate for DK is real strong.

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Don't judge by the last two T20. DK had absolutely no pressure and in those situations he is a gun player. That's why he scored hundreds in CT practice matches and still scores heavily in domestic games cause his place in TN is guaranteed.

 

If u send him when the score is 2/2 he will melt instantly. Yes talent wise he is better than Dhoni and Pant but he is a mental midget

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1 minute ago, R.D forever said:

Don't judge by the last two T20. DK had absolutely no pressure and in those situations he is a gun player. That's why he scored hundreds in CT practice matches and still scores heavily in domestic games cause his place in TN is guaranteed.

 

If u send him when the score is 2/2 he will melt instantly. Yes talent wise he is better than Dhoni and Pant but he is a mental midget

xactly n thats what happ in dharamshala

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2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

thats not any excuse for not keeping wkts whole season specially when considered for India as keeper and knowing he has done blunders as keeper last time he  got selected for India 

He is trying hard to find a spot for himself in the team. Be glad that it worked out instead of hating. Your posts come across as very petty.

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3 hours ago, R.D forever said:

Don't judge by the last two T20. DK had absolutely no pressure and in those situations he is a gun player. That's why he scored hundreds in CT practice matches and still scores heavily in domestic games cause his place in TN is guaranteed.

 

If u send him when the score is 2/2 he will melt instantly. Yes talent wise he is better than Dhoni and Pant but he is a mental midget

Let us judge him by what he did 10 yrs back. What a wonderful concept.

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19 hours ago, Lala said:

DK should be promoted up the order. Pant should be replaced by Rahul

i am doubting if you are a Pakistani :lol: you definitely follow Indian cricket and not just on the surface, something I cannot say about a lot of Indian Fans! . 

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31 minutes ago, maniac said:

DK>>>>> Bradman+Viv+Sachin when there is no pressure.

Bot gone senile..

 

Bradman +  Viv NO

 

DK > Sachin YES :giggle: just for not letting your ailiaaa hit his tuk tuk 100. DK is a team player. Are you still upset about that :hysterical:

 

Article from 2009

 

"There is absolutely no denying the fact that a team’s interest is always greater than that of an individual but sometimes when the situation allows then the individual should be given the chance to reach any personal milestone. And one such scenario arose when India were playing against Sri Lanka in 2009. India needed to score only 7 runs and Sachin Tendulkar was batting on 91. Tendulkar hit a four off Lasith Malinga, bowling the 43rd over, when India needed seven, then got a single to the third man to give the strike to Dinesh Karthik.

With Sachin Tendulkar needing four more runs to complete his 46th ODI century, Sachin fans were expecting Karthik to play out the over or give the strike to Tendulkar. However, Karthik surprised everyone when he hit the winning runs — a four — to leave his illustrious partner stranded at an unbeaten 96." :phehe::phehe:

 
""After hitting the four Karthik was seen approaching Sachin to issue an apology""
 
:facepalm: Poor guy @Khota he had to issue an apology because he was trying to win India a match without tuk tuk. 
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4 hours ago, Khota said:

hate is still strong.

wah to matalb he didnt keep wkts coz ankit hated him. Indian selection gayi tel lene

 

SLOW CLAPPPP

 

4 hours ago, Khota said:

He is trying hard to find a spot for himself in the team. Be glad that it worked out instead of hating. Your posts come across as very petty.

Try hard how by not keeping.....hows that trying hard. 
U think other players dont try .

 

 

U think MS dhoni doesnt try, look at his fitness level. In between he gained weight around 2015 and he lost all weight in recent times whereas youngsters like raina n rohit put on paunches. 

3 hours ago, Khota said:

Let us judge him by what he did 10 yrs back. What a wonderful concept.

IF i remeber his keeping was blunder in 2014 asia cup that few yrs ago not a decade

His keeping was poor even in IPL were he had so many brain farts liker every year 

7 hours ago, R.D forever said:

Yes talent wise he is better than Dhoni and Pant but he is a mental midget

Talent wise he was always better then dhoni but talent alone isnt the thing. 

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

wah to matalb he didnt keep wkts coz ankit hated him. Indian selection gayi tel lene

 

SLOW CLAPPPP

 

Try hard how by not keeping.....hows that trying hard. 
U think other players dont try .

 

 

U think MS dhoni doesnt try, look at his fitness level. In between he gained weight around 2015 and he lost all weight in recent times whereas youngsters like raina n rohit put on paunches. 

IF i remeber his keeping was blunder in 2014 asia cup that few yrs ago not a decade

His keeping was poor even in IPL were he had so many brain farts liker every year 

Talent wise he was always better then dhoni but talent alone isnt the thing. 

How was his performance inferior yesterday? Can you explain.

Currently he bats better than Dhoni and Pant. Dhoni is a big show off when he keeps for spinners. All smoke and mirror. I hardly see any effort from Dhoni on the leg side. He does not even try.

Dhoni is done. 

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2 minutes ago, Khota said:

How was his performance inferior yesterday? Can you explain.

How do u want me to asses a 6 ball cameo.....a good cameo thats it

Cant be considered as innings of substance...only a fool wud

 

really a 6 ball cameo......really 

where was the gentleman when needed someone exp in dharamshala. 

 

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

Currently he bats better than Dhoni and Pant.

Dhoni has played around 10 imp knocks since last yr so karthik is far far away 

And do u want me to use same yardstick same series same opp, last series agianst Lanka 

 

Comparison with pant is stupid, he is still finding his feat ....of yea so is karthik 

never compare a 3 match career to 14 yr flop career

 

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

Dhoni is a big show off when he keeps for spinners. All smoke and mirror. I hardly see any effort from Dhoni on the leg side. He does not even try.

Dhoni is done. 

dhoni as keeper on decline is still better then karthik who hasnt even kept a season n he had a reputation of brainfarts not dhoni

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9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

How do u want me to asses a 6 ball cameo.....a good cameo thats it

Cant be considered as innings of substance...only a fool wud

 

really a 6 ball cameo......really 

where was the gentleman when needed someone exp in dharamshala. 

 

Dhoni has played around 10 imp knocks since last yr so karthik is far far away 

And do u want me to use same yardstick same series same opp, last series agianst Lanka 

 

Comparison with pant is stupid, he is still finding his feat ....of yea so is karthik 

never compare a 3 match career to 14 yr flop career

 

dhoni as keeper on decline is still better then karthik who hasnt even kept a season n he had a reputation of brainfarts not dhoni

Not his fault if he got 6 balls. SR >> 200. If had 12 balls he would have won the game for the team. Send him above the less deserving ones.

 

dhoni has not played any knock last year that makes a difference. garbage runs garbage knocks.

 

No a declining dhoni is a liability. karthick currently is an asset.

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1 hour ago, Khota said:

Not his fault if he got 6 balls. SR >> 200. If had 12 balls he would have won the game for the team. Send him above the less deserving ones.

Didnt he get a lot of time in dharamshala 

Didnt he threw his wkt in wankhade batting on 37 at s/r of 78 (low s/r of which u blame dhoni)

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dhoni has not played any knock last year that makes a difference. garbage runs garbage knocks.

wake up even dhoni biggest crtic wud tell u he did 

100 against eng

his 2 innings against lanka 

his innings in chennai against aus 

his innings against in dharamdhala

his recent innings against SA in 2ndt20

 

prove how any of innings was garbage, now what has karthik done

ur telling those cameos are bigger then dhoni knocks 

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No a declining dhoni is a liability. karthick currently is an asset.

Prove it

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10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

How do u want me to asses a 6 ball cameo.....a good cameo thats it

Cant be considered as innings of substance...only a fool wud

He has been doing well in LOIs recently, if you had watched the matches. Better than Iyer or Pandey at 4, in spite of not being given a consistent run.

really a 6 ball cameo......really 

where was the gentleman when needed someone exp in dharamshala. 

How did the others do on that pitch? That pitch was not playable by today's ODI standards,

Dhoni has played around 10 imp knocks since last yr so karthik is far far away 

Dhoni has played all matches whereas Karthik hasn't

And do u want me to use same yardstick same series same opp, last series agianst Lanka 

 

Comparison with pant is stupid, he is still finding his feat ....of yea so is karthik 

never compare a 3 match career to 14 yr flop career

Fighting for the same spot in the team, so why not? Pant can always improve and come back.

 

dhoni as keeper on decline is still better then karthik who hasnt even kept a season n he had a reputation of brainfarts not dhoni 

That's the reason why DK is second choice. If he can prove himself to be better than Dhoni in keeping, then let's see.

 

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26 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

 

He has been doing well in LOIs recently, if you had watched the matches. Better than Iyer or Pandey at 4, in spite of not being given a consistent run.

 

N what has done??? iyer did well against lanka n pandey has a 100 in aus ....karthik is yet to achieve that in 14 yrs

 

How did the others do on that pitch? That pitch was not playable by today's ODI standards,

 

 

- dhoni did well, dhawan n rohit have fixed spots , others were youngsters Karthik was experienced n playing for his spot 

 

 

Dhoni has played all matches whereas Karthik hasn't

 

- let me correct dhoni has earned his place , karthik so he shudnt expect a similar run 

 

Fighting for the same spot in the team, so why not? Pant can always improve and come back.

 

- had karthik ever improved in his combacks of which we have lost the count. Do u guarntee me that karthik has soughted his mental issues ????? pant hasnt even been given a chance

Atleast pant kept wkts whole season unlike karthik who didnt

 

That's the reason why DK is second choice. If he can prove himself to be better than Dhoni in keeping, then let's see.

 

Nobody in the hell world knws why he is the 2nd choice

yes he made truck loads of runs in FC , but only a foolish wont learn from the past that he has done that so many times in past and comeback just to fail. His problem is not technical but mental .He crumbles under pressure. Talent wise he was ahead of dhoni....but talent is an overrated word 

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28 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

He has been doing well in LOIs recently, if you had watched the matches. Better than Iyer or Pandey at 4, in spite of not being given a consistent run.

 

N what has done??? iyer did well against lanka n pandey has a 100 in aus ....karthik is yet to achieve that in 14 yrs

 

How did the others do on that pitch? That pitch was not playable by today's ODI standards,

 

 

- dhoni did well, dhawan n rohit have fixed spots , others were youngsters Karthik was experienced n playing for his spot 

 

 

Dhoni has played all matches whereas Karthik hasn't

 

- let me correct dhoni has earned his place , karthik so he shudnt expect a similar run 

 

Fighting for the same spot in the team, so why not? Pant can always improve and come back.

 

- had karthik ever improved in his combacks of which we have lost the count. Do u guarntee me that karthik has soughted his mental issues ????? pant hasnt even been given a chance

Atleast pant kept wkts whole season unlike karthik who didnt

 

That's the reason why DK is second choice. If he can prove himself to be better than Dhoni in keeping, then let's see.

 

Nobody in the hell world knws why he is the 2nd choice

yes he made truck loads of runs in FC , but only a foolish wont learn from the past that he has done that so many times in past and comeback just to fail. His problem is not technical but mental .He crumbles under pressure. Talent wise he was ahead of dhoni....but talent is an overrated word 

If you think Dhoni is doing well with the bat, you're in fairyland. Karthik has been doing well, so it makes sense to give him a run. If he's failing then remove him and there's no coming back. No point bringing up his old failures again and again.

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21 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

If you think Dhoni is doing well with the bat, you're in fairyland. Karthik has been doing well, so it makes sense to give him a run. If he's failing then remove him and there's no coming back. No point bringing up his old failures again and again.

Dhoni did score at an avg of 60 last yr,which is good....s/r is on decline 

Still

dhoni s/r last yr was 84 and kartik 69 

 

so temme how is kartik doing better, infact that guy is out of practice when it comes to keeping

 

But no cricketer is always on rise ......n he is still a huge help to captain n bowlers..........no one will let a package like that go easily

 

 

Karthik hasnt done anything to call it he has done well. 6 ball cameo......hahahaha

Ur comapring 2 guys ...one who at his dip avg 60 and other who never at his peek also avg  that

 

 

Karthik good work isnt there till that i can talk about 

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4 hours ago, The Dark Horse said:

If you think Dhoni is doing well with the bat, you're in fairyland. Karthik has been doing well, so it makes sense to give him a run. If he's failing then remove him and there's no coming back. No point bringing up his old failures again and again.

That is all @Ankit_sharma03 has been doing. Keeps on dragging the past. DK has improved and fails to see it. CT mattered and Dhoni was a failure whereas DK thrived.

What makes his hypocrisy unbearable is that he is comparing an old Dhoni against old karthick.

Currently here is the reality:

 

Batting :   Karthick >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dhoni

Keeping: karthick  == Dhoni

 

If karthick doest not perform kick him out but enjoy him doing well. Dont wish failure upon him as @Ankit_sharma03 is doing.

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4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Dhoni did score at an avg of 60 last yr,which is good....s/r is on decline 

Still

dhoni s/r last yr was 84 and kartik 69 

 

so temme how is kartik doing better, infact that guy is out of practice when it comes to keeping

 

But no cricketer is always on rise ......n he is still a huge help to captain n bowlers..........no one will let a package like that go easily

 

 

Karthik hasnt done anything to call it he has done well. 6 ball cameo......hahahaha

Ur comapring 2 guys ...one who at his dip avg 60 and other who never at his peek also avg  that

 

 

Karthik good work isnt there till that i can talk about 

Look at CT and compare. There is plenty of not good but great work.

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1 hour ago, Khota said:

That is all @Ankit_sharma03 has been doing. Keeps on dragging the past. DK has improved and fails to see it. CT mattered and Dhoni was a failure whereas DK thrived.

What makes his hypocrisy unbearable is that he is comparing an old Dhoni against old karthick.

Currently here is the reality:

Do u want me to show current stats 

1 hour ago, Khota said:

 

Batting :   Karthick >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dhoni

Keeping: karthick  == Dhoni

Yes karthik who hasnt kept wkts in last yr claims his keeping has become better then dhoni 

By having no match practice, thats the 1st i hve heard 

1 hour ago, Khota said:

Look at CT and compare. There is plenty of not good but great work.

Genius karthik didnt play a single game in CT 

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1 hour ago, Khota said:

That is all @Ankit_sharma03 has been doing. Keeps on dragging the past. DK has improved and fails to see it. CT mattered and Dhoni was a failure whereas DK thrived.

What makes his hypocrisy unbearable is that he is comparing an old Dhoni against old karthick.

Currently here is the reality:

 

Batting :   Karthick >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dhoni

Keeping: karthick  == Dhoni

 

If karthick doest not perform kick him out but enjoy him doing well. Dont wish failure upon him as @Ankit_sharma03 is doing.

 

CT .. Champions Trophy 2017 ? 

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51 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Nerves or not ready yet? rahul for me in place of pant next game

would be better to get rahul in place of pandey.

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4 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

What wrong has pandey done ?

nothing major. neither has DK. but they will need to be rotated so that others like hooda and rahul can play.

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9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Do u want me to show current stats 

Yes karthik who hasnt kept wkts in last yr claims his keeping has become better then dhoni 

By having no match practice, thats the 1st i hve heard 

Genius karthik didnt play a single game in CT 

Who scored a century in the practise match in CT?

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Dk's perfomance since his comeback has been decent.He scored a 50* against WI in WI and also  64 vs NZ at home.Still the Management doesn't give him a consistent run at No.4.Also in the T20s he is forced to bat at 6 which is not his usual slot.Can come in ahead of Manish Pandey.

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26 minutes ago, philcric said:

DK didn't play even a single game in CT 2017. He played 2 warm ups. 15 vs 15 kinds. They didn't even have an List A status. Scored 0 and 94. How are they the matches that 'mattered'?

Atleast he scored in the warm up games. Dhoni never scored.

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34 minutes ago, Khota said:

Atleast he scored in the warm up games. Dhoni never scored.

17* (21) ... warm up game where DK scored 0 (9)

63 (52)

4 (16)

 

 

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8 hours ago, Khota said:

Who scored a century in the practise match in CT?

No one, 94 is not a century 

 

warmup men to bradman hai , domestic men bhi

Problem to international men kuch krta nhin na

in 2013ct also he scored in both warm after that did nothing much in 15 games n got dropped

let him play in warmup, we need people who perform in international cricket

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