maniac Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Movie Might glorify and whitewash this idiot...you may or may not have been a fan of Sanjay Dutt growing up but You have to appreciate Ranbir Kapoor...he has nailed every look...brilliant Switchblade and Detonator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Another glorification attempt, let me forecast: he will be excused of all his sins and everything will boil down to external conspiracy to tarnish the name of this saint. * Bollywood, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and hum sab milke Indian public ko aur chewtiya banayenge. Ramadhir Singh of GOW was right all along, he judged the mindset of Indians correctly. adi B, Stradlater, Scar and 4 others 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gollum said: Another glorification attempt, let me forecast: he will be excused of all his sins and everything will boil down to external conspiracy to tarnish the name of this saint. * Bollywood, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and hum sab milke Indian public ko aur chewtiya banayenge. Ramadhir Singh of GOW was right all along, he judged the mindset of Indians correctly. So you've seen the movie then? And the irony is, you quote a movie character to make your 'point'! Edited May 14, 2018 by sandeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gollum said: Another glorification attempt, let me forecast: he will be excused of all his sins and everything will boil down to external conspiracy to tarnish the name of this saint. * Bollywood, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and hum sab milke Indian public ko aur chewtiya banayenge. Ramadhir Singh of GOW was right all along, he judged the mindset of Indians correctly. I am not even going that far because obviously it is going to be that based on how Indian biopics are made. I am just appreciating Ranbir Kapoor pulling off all of Sanjay Dutt’s body Language and looks over the years...will he sustain it over a full movie dont know but the little seen from the teaser was pretty impressive Edited May 14, 2018 by maniac Switchblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, sandeep said: So you've seen the movie then? And the irony is, you quote a movie character to make your 'point'! GOW is a rare classic in Bollywood, it is like a speck of gold in a mountain of crap. I haven't seen this movie but gone through enough Bollywood biopics to make a prediction.... besides Hirani is BFF of Sanjay Dutt (also Vidhu Vinod Chopra is a close friend), cannot imagine a friend bringing home some uncomfortable truths. If you are interested I can give you evidence of how big a criminal Sanjay Dutt is and his role in the 1993 blasts...it wasn't just an AK 56, Sanjay stored in his residence many weapons given by Abu Salem, one of those involved in the conspiracy. So pardon me if I hate that crook, I find it difficult to sympathize with such people. And you can mark this post, this movie will only whitewash Dutt's past..Dutt isn't a chewtiya to bare it all and Priya Dutt has ambitions in politics. Switchblade, wanted_desi, The Unrealist and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Which movie is GOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Which movie is GOW? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_of_Wasseypur coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Gollum said: GOW is a rare classic in Bollywood, it is like a speck of gold in a mountain of crap. I haven't seen this movie but gone through enough Bollywood biopics to make a prediction.... besides Hirani is BFF of Sanjay Dutt (also Vidhu Vinod Chopra is a close friend), cannot imagine a friend bringing home some uncomfortable truths. If you are interested I can give you evidence of how big a criminal Sanjay Dutt is and his role in the 1993 blasts...it wasn't just an AK 56, Sanjay stored in his residence many weapons given by Abu Salem, one of those involved in the conspiracy. So pardon me if I hate that crook, I find it difficult to sympathize with such people. And you can mark this post, this movie will only whitewash Dutt's past..Dutt isn't a chewtiya to bare it all and Priya Dutt has ambitions in politics. I lived in Bombay in 1993. And I know that Sanjay Dutt was used as a storage mule by the "bhais". The only thing I'll give him was that he probably didn't know that it was going to be used for terrorism, he probably let the "bhai" do his thing for "normal" goonda business. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 http://www.tehelka.com/2013/03/93-mumbai-blasts-death-sentence-for-yakub-memon-sanjay-dutt-gets-5-years-jail/ Not sure how much Tehelka can be trusted. "I have muslim blood in veins. I could not bear what was happening in the city." UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Gollum said: Another glorification attempt, let me forecast: he will be excused of all his sins and everything will boil down to external conspiracy to tarnish the name of this saint. * Bollywood, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and hum sab milke Indian public ko aur chewtiya banayenge. Ramadhir Singh of GOW was right all along, he judged the mindset of Indians correctly. Ramadhir Singh was a visionary. Every single dialogue uttered by that great man was nothing short of a gospel. Gollum and Scar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 8 hours ago, sandeep said: I lived in Bombay in 1993. And I know that Sanjay Dutt was used as a storage mule by the "bhais". The only thing I'll give him was that he probably didn't know that it was going to be used for terrorism, he probably let the "bhai" do his thing for "normal" goonda business. In case, you already haven't, this should be interesting: https://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/02/25/sanjay-dutt_0_n_9313502.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kira Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Sanju baba has lived a very interesting life, I am looking forward to seeing this movie, haters gonna hate, sanju baba rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 7 hours ago, Mariyam said: In case, you already haven't, this should be interesting: https://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/02/25/sanjay-dutt_0_n_9313502.html Is she still in prison? Reading this made me a little sad - unsurprising that money and influence buys you 'better' justice, in any and all countries, but still sad nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kira Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, sandeep said: Is she still in prison? Reading this made me a little sad - unsurprising that money and influence buys you 'better' justice, in any and all countries, but still sad nonetheless. In some countries even the skin color can buy you "better" justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, sandeep said: Is she still in prison? Reading this made me a little sad - unsurprising that money and influence buys you 'better' justice, in any and all countries, but still sad nonetheless. I think she was denied bail and had to serve her sentence. She should have completed it by now. Or is almost about to. Funnily enough, she was convicted under the TADA and Sanju baba was convicted under the Arms Act. For nearly the same crime. https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/5qDvy4GqUxWv3g80pkFF7N/The-wonder-that-is-Sanjay-Dutt-and-his-prison-term.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mariyam said: I think she was denied bail and had to serve her sentence. She should have completed it by now. Or is almost about to. Funnily enough, she was convicted under the TADA and Sanju baba was convicted under the Arms Act. For nearly the same crime. https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/5qDvy4GqUxWv3g80pkFF7N/The-wonder-that-is-Sanjay-Dutt-and-his-prison-term.html Any insight into why the different charges? I ask you because you said you were a lawyer IIRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Stradlater said: Ramadhir Singh was a visionary. Every single dialogue uttered by that great man was nothing short of a gospel. The sycophancy gene is so stronk in desis, even the so-called enlightened ones, who think they are too cool for school. ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, sandeep said: Any insight into why the different charges? I ask you because you said you were a lawyer IIRC? Initially Sanjubaba was too charged with TADA. But his legal team claimed that these weapons were for self defense. All he had going for him were call records showing threats from Shiv Sainiks threatening him and his family harm. This 'convinced' the higher court that he needn't be tried under the TADA ( a far more stringent rule) but under the more benign Arms Act. The other accused could furnish proof of no such threats. Also, the whole need an AK 56 and a few grenades for self defense is a very flimsy arguement for someone who already has 3 licensed guns. Gollum and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Initially Sanjubaba was too charged with TADA. But his legal team claimed that these weapons were for self defense. All he had going for him were call records showing threats from Shiv Sainiks threatening him and his family harm. This 'convinced' the higher court that he needn't be tried under the TADA ( a far more stringent rule) but under the more benign Arms Act. The other accused could furnish proof of no such threats. Also, the whole need an AK 56 and a few grenades for self defense is a very flimsy arguement for someone who already has 3 licensed guns. So basically his lawyers were able to make a stronger case for him. Hard for a 'regular' person to make the claim that they needed weapons for self-defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 In fact, this news article gives a much clearer picture of what Sanjay Dutt's level of involvement. http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/sanjay-dutt-did-more-than-just-keep-a-gun-for-selfprotection-in-1993/1092232/0 UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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