Harbhajan takes a dig at Ashwin, says spinner’s failure reason behind India’s loss

[AmreekanDesi]

Chuckji has always been jealous of Ashwin 

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Bhajji is an idiot, but he is right here. Saale Ashwin ka tond and fitness itna bekar hain ke gend bhi thik tarah se daal nahin sakta hain! Sirji ko bulao!!

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9 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Bhajji over that Manju anyday. Atleast Bhajji dont have any agenda.....sanjay manjrekar is like one of those Ekta Kapoor serial's cunning saas type.

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Manjrekar is a moron can you imagine him during the Asia cup will go ga ga for Rohit as captain and might ask or say Rahane should have been included and then with Pakistan there his Imran love will be at full display he rarely says anything good about India.

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8 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

She actually gave him a very classy reply. Isha Guha is a very average commentator and analyst. I will go ahead and say she is pathetic but thanks to Bhajji,she got the standout moment of her commentary career. 

 

On Topic though Bhajji is spot on with his criticism. However if he is consistent on his criticisms on pathetic team selections,coaching,captaincy and failures of other players apart from Ashwin it is fine. If he is mum on everything else and is targeting just Ashwin then there is malice.

For Dhawan and his dismissals he dodges the bullet though have seen that.

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“Virat Kohli will have to talk to Ashwin about why he looks so impatient. He is bowling six different deliveries in an over. Ability-wise Moeen Ali is not better than Ashwin. Rather Ashwin is twice as good as Ali as a spinner,” Ganguly told India TV. “But Ali keeps his bowling simple. On the other hand, Ashwin keeps experimenting with the doosra, wrong’un and leg-spin rather than utilising the rough. Sometimes in Test cricket, you have to become boring to win matches.”

https://www.crictracker.com/sourav-ganguly-unimpressed-with-ravi-ashwins-experimentation-in-southampton/

 

[putrevus]

Bhajji is one hundred percent right, Ashwin the bozo is root cause followed by inept and useless openers.Bhajji and Kumble atleast won few matches in SENA but Ashwin has been the biggest  HTB. He is simply not good enough period.

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13 hours ago, Switchblade said:

Manjrekar is a moron ... his Imran love will be at full display he rarely says anything good about India.

 

No, he does.   Statements like,  " it's good to see India compete although they are expected to lose "   while thinking   (  Imran      )        

[Vk1]

I was watching some random match that appeared on FB. The amount of bounce that bhajji used to extract before 2009 was incredible. He always used to get those bat pad catches with the ball hitting high on the bat or on glove. Once he lost that bounce he lost that zing completely in tests.. wonder how that is lost.. due to age or shoulders becoming weak ?

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[New guy]

4 hours ago, Vk1 said:

I was watching some random match that appeared on FB. The amount of bounce that bhajji used to extract before 2009 was incredible. He always used to get those bat pad catches with the ball hitting high on the bat or on glove. Once he lost that bounce he lost that zing completely in tests.. wonder how that is lost.. due to age or shoulders becoming weak ?

His, er, action also helped in that bounce. Once he had to be careful about his action, he lost the extra zip and bounced 

[Vk1]

1 hour ago, New guy said:

His, er, action also helped in that bounce. Once he had to be careful about his action, he lost the extra zip and bounced 

His normal off-spinner also had that bounce . comparatively doosra was less bouncing.

[bahubali]

On 9/5/2018 at 6:21 PM, putrevus said:

Bhajji is one hundred percent right, Ashwin the bozo is root cause followed by inept and useless openers.Bhajji and Kumble atleast won few matches in SENA but Ashwin has been the biggest  HTB. He is simply not good enough period.

While partially right that Ashwin should have performed better or opener should have played well... However saying we lost because of that is totally wrong. AUs and eng drawn recently concluded series where opners from both team were utter failure and same goes to spinners as well. Eng and sa is most difficult place for opners and spinners. They both won 2 matches due to individual brilliance  of Smith and stokes and back of fast bowling. Smith has completely own eng bowling in 4 matches which he played 2 of them AUs won. Smith was the major factor he singlehandedly won 2 matches...same can't be said about for our fake king

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[ShoonyaSifar]

Ashwin, the first choice spinner, got injured during the SA, Eng and Aus series in our last away cycle. Prior to that he sucked in the previous away cycles. Thats two away cycles spread over 4 years without any positive results. That alone should push him to be the 3rd spinner in the squad behind Jadeja and Kuldeep. Why should Kuldeep not be groomed in the home leg to play a lead role in the next away cycle.

 

Ashwin turned 33 today, will be 34 and a half by the next away series in SA, Aus and Eng. Given his poor fitness record away from home, not sure if he will even last a full series.

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, New guy said:

His, er, action also helped in that bounce. Once he had to be careful about his action, he lost the extra zip and bounced 

It has nothing to do with chucking. His arm was more upright, front leg more braced.

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3 hours ago, bahubali said:

While partially right that Ashwin should have performed better or opener should have played well... However saying we lost because of that is totally wrong. AUs and eng drawn recently concluded series where opners from both team were utter failure and same goes to spinners as well. Eng and sa is most difficult place for opners and spinners. They both won 2 matches due to individual brilliance  of Smith and stokes and back of fast bowling. Smith has completely own eng bowling in 4 matches which he played 2 of them AUs won. Smith was the major factor he singlehandedly won 2 matches...same can't be said about for our fake king

Are you slow?  Kohli did more than anyone in that series and he was best batsman from both sides.Did he say that he is better than Smith.

 

Yes Smith was great and is better batsman than Kohli.What has that got to do with Kohli, he did win one match on his own.by scoring nearly two hundreds.Kohli was missing his two best bowlers too.

 

 

 

[Khota]

When Bhaaji was declining Ashwin was peaking. Ashwin stagnated very soon and never improved. Lot of his wkts are because of biased pitches.

[putrevus]

9 minutes ago, Khota said:

When Bhaaji was declining Ashwin was peaking. Ashwin stagnated very soon and never improved. Lot of his wkts are because of biased pitches.

Ashwin is his own worst enemy, he thinks too much and does too many things.He is also very unfit and getting hurt very frequently.

[Khota]

12 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Ashwin is his own worst enemy, he thinks too much and does too many things.He is also very unfit and getting hurt very frequently.

He never mastered the craft. Kept on trying so many variations and nothing worked. My biggest issue with him was not taking his fitness seriously. You step out to play for India you need to be as fit as kohli/Pandya etc.

[bahubali]

48 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Are you slow?  Kohli did more than anyone in that series and he was best batsman from both sides.Did he say that he is better than Smith.

 

Yes Smith was great and is better batsman than Kohli.What has that got to do with Kohli, he did win one match on his own.by scoring nearly two hundreds.Kohli was missing his two best bowlers too.

 

 

 

That match was won by pandya performance where he took 5 min wkts within the span of 21 balls and also scored 67 whom you criticize always. Kohli did bat well but he could have don much better as he was in form batsmen but he failed few of the crucial moments. BTW I was just highlighting your other points that only due to opener and Ashwin failure we lost the series, whereas in the current ashes series also AUs opener failed miserably and Lyon dint set the stage on fire still AUs manage to draw.

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He is now a commentator now, and not playing for India. So as a commentator its fine to mention such things. 

 

Yes, I don't like the idea of current cricketers talking about fellow national cricketers. But thats another debate. Ideally this needs to change. Star Sports or any Indian broadcaster for that matter shouldn't allow any current Indian players to commentate that easily unless they have retired.

 

Its very common among Pakistanis where you will see current players joining tv shows and talking shyt about their fellow team mates who are currently participating in a tournment. It creates a poor atmosphere. I think strict policy should be to not let current players commentate if they are still active in IPL. 

[Vk1]

I was curious to know which other off-spinner gets so many wickets due to bounce. Apart from Nathan Lyon cant find any.