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Team India in 4th innings under Captain Kohli


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You're seriously overestimating Kohli, there's only 1 score above 200 we've chased with him in the side & that was nearly seven years back! Compare that to SRT or Sehwag, Kohli is good in LO & only low pressure games, he's no chase master period :no:

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India v Australia at Mumbai (BS), 1964/65
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New Zealand v India at Dunedin, 1967/68
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England v India at The Oval, 1971
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England v India at Lord's, 1986
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India v England at Mohali, 2005/06
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I'm going to get a lot of brickbats over this but yet I am going to say it.

 

Kohli's chasing prowess is overrated as hell. Even in ODI's he hasn't faced a strong bowling unit yet. Fact of the matter is ODI bowling units of international teams are very sub standard these days compared to previous eras.

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Just now, Stan AF said:

I'm going to get a lot of brickbats over this but yet I am going to say it.

 

Kohli's chasing prowess is overrated as hell. Even in ODI's he hasn't faced a strong bowling unit yet. Fact of the matter is ODI bowling units of international teams are very sub standard these days compared to previous eras.

* the fanbois - Kohli is overrated as a chaser - heck I'd put Gambhir, Dravid, SRT, Laxman, Yuvraj & Gavaskar above him in terms of chasing prowess. That includes LO & tests obviously, take a look at this for instance!

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India v Ireland at Bengaluru, 2010/11
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31 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

I'm going to get a lot of brickbats over this but yet I am going to say it.

 

Kohli's chasing prowess is overrated as hell. Even in ODI's he hasn't faced a strong bowling unit yet. Fact of the matter is ODI bowling units of international teams are very sub standard these days compared to previous eras.

Do you think we can invest on Mayank and shaw for our prime opners. Yes, they have some early success but both look susceptible against swing.

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2 hours ago, VT87 said:

Do you think we can invest on Mayank and shaw for our prime opners. Yes, they have some early success but both look susceptible against swing.

There is no one in the team who’s good against serious swing , unlikely we will have one anytime soon with the influence T20 has had on batsmen’s technique . The way to win in places like England is to have lots of practice match and give batsmen time to make shuttle changes into their game , which good players can do . You need to persist with them  .

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It's not just about winning in 4th innings, these mofos have even forgotten how to draw batting out 3-4 sessions. Last time we drew a test in 4th innings was against England in Rajkot (2016) and barely just that too on a patta with only half a day left...another 15 overs and we would have lost even that. In recent times Aus had 2 great day 5 saves in Ranchi and Dubai, Lanka defied us heroically in Delhi and a couple of months back in NZ, NZ/RSA did it quite a few times....more or less every other team has been able to draw matches which we generally lose. That for a number 1 team is unacceptable. Shastri needs to put the boys on a drill, make plans, set up simulations in practice, hire mental conditioning experts, motivators etc...something drastic has to be done. 

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On 2/24/2019 at 5:59 AM, jusarrived said:

Am not a big fan of Virat’s captaincy , but I don’t ever remember us being good in this area even . Dravid and VVS got us some famous wins , but we have always been chokers 

When did we choke when we had manageable totals like this?

Bridgetown 97? Sachin got two howlers in both the innings.

We chased down 130 odd against Australia at home in 2001. 

We chased down 233 at Adelaide. 

We chased 200 odd against Pakistan in Delhi in 2007. 

We chased down 200+ twice against Australia in 2010 at home. 

Most of our overseas famous wins came when we batted first. For example, 2002 against england, 06 joburg, 07 Perth, 07 Trent bridge, 2010 Durban. 

I don't think we ever lost a manageable chase like the ones we lost last two years. We never had a strong bowling so we were rarely given the opportunity.

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

The 2001 Kandy chase was epic, 270 odd against Vaas and peak Murali. Sachin didn't play that match, not that it would have made much difference in the run chase :dontknow:.  

Dada, Dravid, Ramesh :hatsoff:

We would have only had to chase 70 had Sachin played though... :whack:

 

 

 

p.s he still would have choked in that 70 odd chase :)(

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