Kohli bags ICC Cricketer and ODI Cricketer of the Year at ICC awards, Smith wins Test Cricketer of the Year

[mishra]

Corporate world, BCCI and ICC all on a concentrated effort to repair impact of disastrous result down to Kohli's tantrums and favoritism. Then again, who would like to kill golden goose?

[Shunya]

Most appearances in the ICC Men's ODI team of the year

 

8 times ~ MS Dhoni (5 times as Captain)  (Almost Bradmanesque)

7 times ~ AB de Villiers

5 times ~ Ricky Ponting

4 times ~ Flintoff, Sachin, Sanga, Dilshan, Kohli  

 

Other Indian players in the list - 3 times ~ Yuvi, Viru, Rohit  & 2 times ~ Shami, Jaddu

[velu]

12 minutes ago, Shunya said:

Most appearances in the ICC Men's ODI team of the year

 

8 times ~ MS Dhoni (5 times as Captain)  (Almost Bradmanesque)

7 times ~ AB de Villiers

5 times ~ Ricky Ponting

4 times ~ Flintoff, Sachin, Sanga, Dilshan, Kohli  

 

Other Indian players in the list - 3 times ~ Yuvi, Viru, Rohit  & 2 times ~ Shami, Jaddu

 

dhoni > sachin in ODIs ?

 

[Cricketics]

^{Kya player haiI. WAH WAH.}

^CHAMPION

 

 

 

[Cricketics]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

Corporate world, BCCI and ICC all on a concentrated effort to repair impact of disastrous result down to Kohli's tantrums and favoritism. Then again, who would like to kill golden goose?

BS.

 

Who should have been captain of the team then?

Smith lost a home series to South Africa recently, so that was totally against him.

 

 

[Shunya]

21 minutes ago, velu said:

 

dhoni > sachin in ODIs ?

 

Well, Sachin was great as well once, but surely Kohli has overtaken him in ODIs. And about Dhoni - there is no match to his greatness. He fulfilled so many roles in the team with super consistency that others can just dream off. Thats why he sits at the top of ICC ODI team appearance list.

[mishra]

6 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

BS.

 

Who should have been captain of the team then?

Smith lost a home series to South Africa recently, so that was totally against him.

 

 

Anyone but Kohli. He should have been relieved of his duties when Kumble was made to go.

Rahane, Ashwin are two good contenders for test captaincy.

 

Rohit is allready doing perfect job in odis.

[maniac]

1 hour ago, Shunya said:

Well, Sachin was great as well once, but surely Kohli has overtaken him in ODIs. And about Dhoni - there is no match to his greatness. He fulfilled so many roles in the team with super consistency that others can just dream off. Thats why he sits at the top of ICC ODI team appearance list.

Sachin was the highest run getter in pretty much every wc he played and I believe was MOT(tournament) in atleast one.

 

While I agree Kohli is the 2nd greatest odi bat from India ever,he still has a huge body of work left.

[maniac]

Odi team is perfect

 

Warner-Backward Point

Rashid Khan- Long off/deep extra cover

Bumrah- deep fine leg

Stokes- covers

Rohit-Extra cover

De Kock- Keeper

Hassan Ali-mid on

Babar Adam-midwicket/square leg

 Boult-point

Ab- first slip/backward squareleg/gully

Kohli-deep midwicket

 

wow didn’t know that much research goes in picking the odi X1  

 

anyway jokes apart...well deserved  

[Jimmy Cliff]

Quite fitting that the thread has been created by @flat_wicket_bully .

[speedheat]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Quite fitting that the thread has been created by @flat_wicket_bully .

 true..

[kira]

13 hours ago, Shunya said:

And about Dhoni - there is no match to his greatness. He fulfilled so many roles in the team with super consistency that others can just dream off.  Thats why he sits at the top of ICC ODI team appearance list.

saste nashe mat kiya kar 

[Rasgulla]

14 hours ago, Shunya said:

Most appearances in the ICC Men's ODI team of the year

 

8 times ~ MS Dhoni (5 times as Captain)  (Almost Bradmanesque)

7 times ~ AB de Villiers

5 times ~ Ricky Ponting

4 times ~ Flintoff, Sachin, Sanga, Dilshan, Kohli  

 

Other Indian players in the list - 3 times ~ Yuvi, Viru, Rohit  & 2 times ~ Shami, Jaddu

How come so called ATG Sachin just 4 in his whole career ?   He can't even clean Kohli's boots  

[Gollum]

14 hours ago, Shunya said:

Most appearances in the ICC Men's ODI team of the year

 

8 times ~ MS Dhoni (5 times as Captain)  (Almost Bradmanesque)

7 times ~ AB de Villiers

5 times ~ Ricky Ponting

4 times ~ Flintoff, Sachin, Sanga, Dilshan, Kohli  

 

Other Indian players in the list - 3 times ~ Yuvi, Viru, Rohit  & 2 times ~ Shami, Jaddu

This team of the year/ICC awards started in 2004, no wonder past greats aren't in it. Had it been from the 70s pretty sure Viv/Sachin/Mcgrath/Akram would have made the XI >10 times. 

[Shunya]

1 hour ago, kira said:

saste nashe mat kiya kar 

Jo bhi hai, tu jo karta hai usse to acha hi hai...

[Shunya]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

This team of the year/ICC awards started in 2004, no wonder past greats aren't in it. Had it been from the 70s pretty sure Viv/Sachin/Mcgrath/Akram would have made the XI >10 times. 

True that they would have been selected more then 3 or 4 but not more than 10 times as you suggest. There were lot of other contemporaries who performed in batting and bowling. It will be interesting to see the numbers and compare before 2004.

Dhoni on the other hand has outdone all of his contemporaries during last 10 years as wk/bat and also captain sometimes as evident from his consistent selections.

[Gollum]

Just now, Shunya said:

True that they would have been selected more then 3 or 4 but not more than 10 times as you suggest. There were lot of other contemporaries who performed in batting and bowling. It will be interesting to see the numbers and compare before 2004.

Dhoni on the other hand has outdone all of his contemporaries during last 10 years as wk/bat and also captain sometimes as evident from his consistent selections.

SRT would have made the list in 1995, 96, 97, 98, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 in ODIs.

Viv was so far ahead of his peers in ODI cricket that he would have made the team practically every year till 1988-89.

Same with Akram, Mcgrath and a few others. 

Even Gilly would figure many more times because from around 1998 onwards till Dhoni's peak he was so far ahead of all other keepers (Andy Flower was great in tests, not so much in ODIs). 

[Shunya]

1 hour ago, Rasgulla said:

How come so called ATG Sachin just 4 in his whole career ?   He can't even clean Kohli's boots  

Sachin missed some part of his career before 2003. However, he was beaten by others since 2004. He played almost 10 years after that. For eg. Ricky pointing played less than Sachin and he was selected 5/8 years he played and he is considered one of the competition to Sachin.

Kohli is a completely on other level now as a batsman, he is going to beat everyone by the time he retires.

[Gollum]

Keepers don't have that much competition, batsmen and quicks have lots of competition. 

[Shunya]

22 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Keepers don't have that much competition, batsmen and quicks have lots of competition. 

How is that? Openers are selected on the basis of what they do as openers. For eg. Rohit Sharma's has to be in top 4-5 opener to be selected. David Warner last year was I guess IMO top 5 opener, but he got selected above Tharanga & Dhawan and at par with Amla & Tamim. 

Also, more competition among batsman is also because there are 5 or 6 positions to fill. If you remove openers, it is still being in top 5 in the world in that year to be chosen as batsman. For WK you only need 1 WK to have a better year than you to get dethroned or at best again has to be top 2 or 3 to be selected for 1 spot. How can that be easier than other batsman or other position? Infact I feel its tougher since it is only 1 spot. Either you are top or out. And do not forger it is WK/BAT and in Dhoni's case Captain. Hence, he is an ATG ODI player.