CG Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I think Dhawan is finished not only his batting but his catching has been bad.We need to blood young openers Vijay and Dhawan Are on last legs anyway. Link to comment
zen Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 PS after removing the 2 tests in NZ, the avg takes a massive 19% hit Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menuCleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2013-2018 31 52 1 2192 190 42.98 3236 67.73 7 5 4 297 12 Profile filtered 2013-2018 10 20 0 436 81 21.80 770 56.62 0 1 1 53 0 Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s v Australia 2014-2014 3 6 0 167 81 27.83 272 61.39 0 1 1 17 0 v England 2014-2018 4 8 0 161 37 20.12 281 57.29 0 0 0 22 0 v South Africa 2013-2018 3 6 0 108 29 18.00 217 49.76 0 0 0 14 0 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, zen said: PS after removing the 2 tests in NZ, the avg takes a massive 19% hit Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menuCleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2013-2018 31 52 1 2192 190 42.98 3236 67.73 7 5 4 297 12 Profile filtered 2013-2018 10 20 0 436 81 21.80 770 56.62 0 1 1 53 0 Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s v Australia 2014-2014 3 6 0 167 81 27.83 272 61.39 0 1 1 17 0 v England 2014-2018 4 8 0 161 37 20.12 281 57.29 0 0 0 22 0 v South Africa 2013-2018 3 6 0 108 29 18.00 217 49.76 0 0 0 14 0 thats the only tour thats differs him from rohit overseas zen 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, Lannister said: Those drops were criminal and this is not the first time he has done that. Anyone remember SA first test? Absolutely. If we cant chuck him out, He should atleast stop fielding in slips Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Scores 20 runs, drops catch costing team 40 runs and then slaps thighs. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Future of Dhawan in Tests? Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Future of Dhawan in Tests? But the clueless duo of captain and coach will persist with him.Just wait and watch his Instagram where he will post an emotional post so that fans can believe into his hype.In Sena he looks horrible more like a tailender the way he gets out. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Switchblade said: But the clueless duo of captain and coach will persist with him.Just wait and watch his Instagram where he will post an emotional post so that fans can believe into his hype.In Sena he looks horrible more like a tailender the way he gets out. They showed how Dhawan got out on the previous tour. Almost identical. Edging to slips. His game is not suitable for these conditions in Tests. Maybe one-dayers. Reminds me of how Wasim Jaffer got owned by Brett Lee 5 times in the slips. Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Just now, vvvslaxman said: They showed how Dhawan got out on the previous tour. Almost identical. Edging to slips. His game is not suitable for these conditions in Tests. Maybe one-dayers. Reminds me of how Wasim Jaffer got owned by Brett Lee 5 times in the slips. He can’t bat like this in Sena these are not Asian pitches where he can play through the line or attack the substandard bowlers. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Basically Dhawan has always been a hack,he has mastered the ODI format but overseas tests he was never gonna score.But such basic wisdom is lost on our team mgmt.He ll get one more test because of that Afghanistan ton Rinse and repeat TTF,the policy of this mgmt Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Vvs Laxman, aakash chopra, sehwag......ko 100 kodde marne chahiye for crying out that team has been unfair on dhawan Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Vvs Laxman, aakash chopra, sehwag......ko 100 kodde marne chahiye for crying out that team has been unfair on dhawan Add Gavaskar to that list as well and what about Manjrekar he wanted Che to be dropped but was cheerleading Dhawan. Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Quote The standard of bowling has been exceptional and it has done a bit throughout but the openers' job is to see off the new ball and the Indian openers, in particular, have looked a bit flashy, too many flashy drives from Shikhar Dhawan-Naseer Hussain Link to comment
Lannister Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 He should be kicked out in all 3 formats of the game. The way he smiles after doing something stupid tells something about this management and how they are taking Indian fans for a ride. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Switchblade said: Add Gavaskar to that list as well and what about Manjrekar he wanted Che to be dropped but was cheerleading Dhawan. They have backed rohit also, unke liye to 100 kodde bhi kum hai Switchblade 1 Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: They have backed rohit also, unke liye to 100 kodde bhi kum hai Selectors & Team management should take a firm decision and plan for the future now as Vijay is nearing the end of his career and Dhawan just cannot survive against swing/seam . Right now they are following a very skewed vision where hacks like Shikha are given chances in SC condotions where they make merry and in tough conditions the hacks like Dhawan go missing big time . For openers role , they should see who has the technique to survive in seaming conditions i.e. a tight technique around off stump, play minimum deliveries if not on stump , leave short deliveries early in innings. Such people should be your openers both in SC and SENA countries. Not sure we have many ready made in this category though . Some come to mind (watched only a few , so might have missed some emerging players who fits above creteria) 1. Prithvi Shaw - Not yet ready perhaps. Has a problem when ball moves away from the stumps as he prefers going towards leg a bit while playing. Throws his hands at balls outside off. Get a feeling may be targetted with shortish balls on body big Time. But Kid has something special and good hand -eye co ordination and timing. Should be top 2-3 contenders. 2. Mayank Agarwal :- Though high on selectors list not sure will he succeed vs Swing/Seam . Doubtful . May get a chance . 3. KL Rahul : - Should succeed in bouncier , hard pitches than pitches like England. Of late game around off stump looks not good . Also got out quite a few with inside edge catches which looks bit strange . May be there is something to work out . Needs continuos place as opener for 6-8 tests . looks the best bet . 4. Samarth :- Think worth investing on him . 5. Sanjay Ramaswamy :- I thuink this fellow need to be considered to see if he can tep up in a year or 2 . Any other names worth looking at ? Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: They have backed rohit also, unke liye to 100 kodde bhi kum hai Selectors & Team management should take a firm decision and plan for the future now as Vijay is nearing the end of his career and Dhawan just cannot survive against swing/seam . Right now they are following a very skewed vision where hacks like Shikha are given chances in SC condotions where they make merry and in tough conditions the hacks like Dhawan go missing big time . For openers role , they should see who has the technique to survive in seaming conditions i.e. a tight technique around off stump, play minimum deliveries if not on stump , leave short deliveries early in innings. Such people should be your openers both in SC and SENA countries. Not sure we have many ready made in this category though . Some come to mind (watched only a few , so might have missed some emerging players who fits above creteria) 1. Prithvi Shaw - Not yet ready perhaps. Has a problem when ball moves away from the stumps as he prefers going towards leg a bit while playing. Throws his hands at balls outside off. Get a feeling may be targetted with shortish balls on body big Time. But Kid has something special and good hand -eye co ordination and timing. Should be top 2-3 contenders. 2. Mayank Agarwal :- Though high on selectors list not sure will he succeed vs Swing/Seam . Doubtful . May get a chance . 3. KL Rahul : - Should succeed in bouncier , hard pitches than pitches like England. Of late game around off stump looks not good . Also got out quite a few with inside edge catches which looks bit strange . May be there is something to work out . Needs continuos place as opener for 6-8 tests . looks the best bet . 4. Samarth :- Think worth investing on him . 5. Sanjay Ramaswamy :- I thuink this fellow need to be considered to see if he can tep up in a year or 2 . Any other names worth looking at ? Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: They have backed rohit also, unke liye to 100 kodde bhi kum hai Selectors & Team management should take a firm decision and plan for the future now as Vijay is nearing the end of his career and Dhawan just cannot survive against swing/seam . Right now they are following a very skewed vision where hacks like Shikha are given chances in SC condotions where they make merry and in tough conditions the hacks like Dhawan go missing big time . For openers role , they should see who has the technique to survive in seaming conditions i.e. a tight technique around off stump, play minimum deliveries if not on stump , leave short deliveries early in innings. Such people should be your openers both in SC and SENA countries. Not sure we have many ready made in this category though . Some come to mind (watched only a few , so might have missed some emerging players who fits above creteria) 1. Prithvi Shaw - Not yet ready perhaps. Has a problem when ball moves away from the stumps as he prefers going towards leg a bit while playing. Throws his hands at balls outside off. Get a feeling may be targetted with shortish balls on body big Time. But Kid has something special and good hand -eye co ordination and timing. Should be top 2-3 contenders. 2. Mayank Agarwal :- Though high on selectors list not sure will he succeed vs Swing/Seam . Doubtful . May get a chance . 3. KL Rahul : - Should succeed in bouncier , hard pitches than pitches like England. Of late game around off stump looks not good . Also got out quite a few with inside edge catches which looks bit strange . May be there is something to work out . Needs continuos place as opener for 6-8 tests . looks the best bet . 4. Samarth :- Think worth investing on him . 5. Sanjay Ramaswamy :- I thuink this fellow need to be considered to see if he can tep up in a year or 2 . Any other names worth looking at ? Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: They have backed rohit also, unke liye to 100 kodde bhi kum hai Selectors & Team management should take a firm decision and plan for the future now as Vijay is nearing the end of his career and Dhawan just cannot survive against swing/seam . Right now they are following a very skewed vision where hacks like Shikha are given chances in SC condotions where they make merry and in tough conditions the hacks like Dhawan go missing big time . For openers role , they should see who has the technique to survive in seaming conditions i.e. a tight technique around off stump, play minimum deliveries if not on stump , leave short deliveries early in innings. Such people should be your openers both in SC and SENA countries. Not sure we have many ready made in this category though . Some come to mind (watched only a few , so might have missed some emerging players who fits above creteria) 1. Prithvi Shaw - Not yet ready perhaps. Has a problem when ball moves away from the stumps as he prefers going towards leg a bit while playing. Throws his hands at balls outside off. Get a feeling may be targetted with shortish balls on body big Time. But Kid has something special and good hand -eye co ordination and timing. Should be top 2-3 contenders. 2. Mayank Agarwal :- Though high on selectors list not sure will he succeed vs Swing/Seam . Doubtful . May get a chance . 3. KL Rahul : - Should succeed in bouncier , hard pitches than pitches like England. Of late game around off stump looks not good . Also got out quite a few with inside edge catches which looks bit strange . May be there is something to work out . Needs continuos place as opener for 6-8 tests . looks the best bet . 4. Samarth :- Think worth investing on him . 5. Sanjay Ramaswamy :- I thuink this fellow need to be considered to see if he can tep up in a year or 2 . Any other names worth looking at ? Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: They have backed rohit also, unke liye to 100 kodde bhi kum hai Selectors & Team management should take a firm decision and plan for the future now as Vijay is nearing the end of his career and Dhawan just cannot survive against swing/seam . Right now they are following a very skewed vision where hacks like Shikha are given chances in SC condotions where they make merry and in tough conditions the hacks like Dhawan go missing big time . For openers role , they should see who has the technique to survive in seaming conditions i.e. a tight technique around off stump, play minimum deliveries if not on stump , leave short deliveries early in innings. Such people should be your openers both in SC and SENA countries. Not sure we have many ready made in this category though . Some come to mind (watched only a few , so might have missed some emerging players who fits above creteria) 1. Prithvi Shaw - Not yet ready perhaps. Has a problem when ball moves away from the stumps as he prefers going towards leg a bit while playing. Throws his hands at balls outside off. Get a feeling may be targetted with shortish balls on body big Time. But Kid has something special and good hand -eye co ordination and timing. Should be top 2-3 contenders. 2. Mayank Agarwal :- Though high on selectors list not sure will he succeed vs Swing/Seam . Doubtful . May get a chance . 3. KL Rahul : - Should succeed in bouncier , hard pitches than pitches like England. Of late game around off stump looks not good . Also got out quite a few with inside edge catches which looks bit strange . May be there is something to work out . Needs continuos place as opener for 6-8 tests . looks the best bet . 4. Samarth :- Think worth investing on him . 5. Sanjay Ramaswamy :- I thuink this fellow need to be considered to see if he can tep up in a year or 2 . Any other names worth looking at ? Link to comment
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