Bumrah no. 1 in odi ranking

[The Dark Horse]

Why are we even discussing about Amir here

 

We're supposed to celebrate Bumrah's achievement 

Edited February 20, 2018 by The Dark Horse

[kira]

10 minutes ago, Lala said:

please dont come up with fixing all the time. 

Kyun, sach sun kar jal rhi hai teri? Too bad but your phateechar country is now synonymous with cheating, ball tampering, fixing all over the world, you can't run away from your aukaat

[mancalledsting]

1 hour ago, Jamadagni said:

Well, before the game, even so called experts on this forum wanted India to chase in the final. I, for one, really hoped our captain and management weren't as dumb, but alas no. Though Kohli had never proved himself as captain in the IPL, I still had belief in his captaincy. But that completely changed at the toss and during Pakistan's innings. And now the final nail in the coffin with his selections on this tour by having Rohit in tests, Rahane in ODIs, Pandey in T20s. He is not biased or favors certain players but just outright incompetent with no vision.

CT Trophy and South African tests aside he has an impeccable record. Captains need time to learn and grow, you don't just start with a finished product. I thought this was obvious when taking on a new captain (only took over ODIs last year) but some expecting him to be Mike Brearley after 2 days on the job (look at how many ODIs he got to captain before entering CT trophy). 

[mancalledsting]

India also lost the final as we are historically known to struggle against unknown players. Pak fielding Zaman, Shadab, Hassan Ali who all contributed. As long as we continue to boycott Pak, except further phainties when we come up against them in major tournaments.

[King Tendulkar]

Great played 

 

so underrated in world cricket

[Austin 3:!6]

1 hour ago, Lala said:

Who thought a no ball will lose a Trophy in a final? 

We already lost the 2016 T20 WC due to no ball. So CT was not the first time.

[Turning_track]

58 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

India also lost the final as we are historically known to struggle against unknown players. Pak fielding Zaman, Shadab, Hassan Ali who all contributed. As long as we continue to boycott Pak, except further phainties when we come up against them in major tournaments.

Disagree. We faced Hasan Ali in the group stage match as well, he was hammered for 70 runs. Shadab played in that match too.
Many unknown players to us like Sohaib Maqsood, Bilawal Bhatti, Umar Amin, Sharjeel Khan etc played against India in major tournaments, but they did not do much damage.
Its just that Fakhar Zaman had his luck & punished us severely. But the notion that by boycotting them, we'd get a phainty in big tournaments is false.

In the last 15 years we have won more matches against them in world tournaments, more so since 2009.

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, mancalledsting said:

India also lost the final as we are historically known to struggle against unknown players. Pak fielding Zaman, Shadab, Hassan Ali who all contributed. As long as we continue to boycott Pak, except further phainties when we come up against them in major tournaments.

needs factual evidence, does India struggle more against unknown bowlers ? 

how come they beat them in all games prior to that final then ? not to take anything away from pak players, it was a final and scoreboard pressure worked for them, its not a trend mostly expect a through and all-round trashing next time they meet India, as India bowls fields and bats much better. 

[mancalledsting]

6 minutes ago, Vilander said:

needs factual evidence, does India struggle more against unknown bowlers ? 

how come they beat them in all games prior to that final then ? not to take anything away from pak players, it was a final and scoreboard pressure worked for them, its not a trend mostly expect a through and all-round trashing next time they meet India, as India bowls fields and bats much better. 

Ajantha Mendez 

Lungi Ngidi 

Dananjaya de Silva 

Jason Behrendorf

Doug Bollinger- our ATG odi team made him look like Malcolm Marshall in 2009 series 

 

India has rich tradition of flopping hard vs newbies 

[Trichromatic]

Pos	Player		Rating
1	Jasprit Bumrah  IND		787
2	Rashid Khan	AFG	787
3	Trent Boult	NZ	729
4	Josh Hazlewood	AUS	714
5	Hasan Ali	PAK	711
6	Imran Tahir	SA	683
7	Kagiso Rabada	SA	679
8	Yuzvendra Chahal	IND	667
9	Mitchell Santner	NZ	662
10	Mitchell Starc	AUS	658
11	Mohammad Nabi	AFG	646
12	Sunil Narine	WI	636
13	Adil Rashid	ENG	632
14	Chris Woakes	ENG	630
15	Kuldeep Yadav	IND	628
16	Akshar Patel	IND	624

 

 

Chahal at 8 and Kuldeep at 15.

[Vilander]

1 minute ago, mancalledsting said:

Ajantha Mendez 

Lungi Ngidi 

Dananjaya de Silva 

Jason Behrendorf

Doug Bollinger- our ATG odi team made him look like Malcolm Marshall in 2009 series 

 

India has rich tradition of flopping hard vs newbies 

Each one of them proved themselves for a period against other oppositions as well. As a matter of fact Indians handled Dananjaya and doug better than others.  India figured out Ajanda Mendis first, Lungi is a good bowler but he was figured out before the end of the ODI series. This list does the opposite of what its intended actually.

[mancalledsting]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

Each one of them proved themselves for a period against other oppositions as well. As a matter of fact Indians handled Dananjaya and doug better than others.  India figured out Ajanda Mendis first, Lungi is a good bowler but he was figured out before the end of the ODI series. This list does the opposite of what its intended actually.

Only in your mind. Mendis giving us phainty in Asia Cup final and then proceeding to give bigger phainty in test series and your praising Indian team to be the first to suss him out. Thanks for proving my overriding point tho ie The more you play against someone, the less chance they have of surprising you 

[express bowling]

Bumrah will be a  " top 5 test bowler "  within a reasonable time too.

 

We are lucky to have a pacer who has both pace and intelligence.

 

 

[LORD_analyst]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Bumrah will be a  " top 5 test bowler "  within a reasonable time too.

 

We are lucky to have a pacer who has both pace and intelligence.

 

 

not until he perfects an outswinger

[mancalledsting]

2 hours ago, LORD_analyst said:

not until he perfects an outswinger

He’s got an inswinger and one that holds its line, should be enough

[mahesh_g]

Lol Hasan couldn’t stay as no 1 for long time.

[bhakum20]

I'm just amazed at the intensity with which Bumrah has been bowling with for several months now regardless of the format, mark of a world class bowler. May it long continue

[Khota]

16 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Amir may be an avg bowler against other teams but always performs against us. He is the main reason why we lost the CT final and will continue to be a thorn in our flesh for few years now. Our openers need to find a way to play him if we want to win the 2019 WC game.

That was the most pathetic bowling attack India had. India only had 15 overs of good bowlers and rest Ashwin and jaddu were useless. SL was a warning but the stupid kaptaan did not get the hint.

[Vilander]

16 hours ago, Jamadagni said:

Not as world class as Amir's at Lord's. 

man that was savage..

[Vilander]

11 hours ago, mancalledsting said:

The more you play against someone, the less chance they have of surprising you 

thats elementary. But how is India struggling more against new bowlers in comparison to other countries. There needs to be statistical proof, burden of proof is on folks who claim this.